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Subjective. Brady benefitted from the Bellichek and the Patriots organization.
And look at the Pats without Brady (this year and the year he was injured).

And now he's led the BUCS to a super bowl at 80 years old haha. Look - love Peyton - and NOBODY can take from him what he did - but don't see how this is even disputable. If Brady had retired 5-6 years ago, then it would have been a decent debate. But TB has only solidified his place.
 
And look at the Pats without Brady (this year and the year he was injured).

And now he's led the BUCS to a super bowl at 80 years old haha. Look - love Peyton - and NOBODY can take from him what he did - but don't see how this is even disputable. If Brady had retired 5-6 years ago, then it would have been a decent debate. But TB has only solidified his place.
Teams win SB’s. Brady’s win this past Sunday was not a result of his play with the three interceptions just like Peyton’s performance in his last year did not lead the Broncos to their SB win. Their teams win those games despite the Qb’s poor play.
 
And look at the Pats without Brady (this year and the year he was injured).

And now he's led the BUCS to a super bowl at 80 years old haha. Look - love Peyton - and NOBODY can take from him what he did - but don't see how this is even disputable. If Brady had retired 5-6 years ago, then it would have been a decent debate. But TB has only solidified his place.
Let's see if he wins first because right now he's only following in someone else's foot prints
 
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Has anyone's wife subjected them to the absolutely terrible Netflix show Bridgerton?

It was torture even though I was just sitting on the couch reading VN. I now know what it feels like to be tortured.
No. I run things in my house!!!
Hope she is not on VolNation.
 
And look at the Pats without Brady (this year and the year he was injured).

And now he's led the BUCS to a super bowl at 80 years old haha. Look - love Peyton - and NOBODY can take from him what he did - but don't see how this is even disputable. If Brady had retired 5-6 years ago, then it would have been a decent debate. But TB has only solidified his place.
Didn't he miss a season with the pats and his backup took them to an 11-5 record? Seems like Brady was always the captain of a pretty powerful ship. The Pats sucked this year, sure, but they weren't all that special last year with your golden boy Brady either. They blew it all up to start a rebuild. They weren't supposed to be great this season. Meanwhile, Brady jumped to a team with an exceptional defense and a top WR in Evans. Brought his buddy Gronk out of retirement, then they got Fournette and AB to join. This Tampa Bay team is pretty dang good regardless of who the QB is. If Brady were the only piece missing and all the other parts were there, they would still be a contender.
 
And look at the Pats without Brady (this year and the year he was injured).

And now he's led the BUCS to a super bowl at 80 years old haha. Look - love Peyton - and NOBODY can take from him what he did - but don't see how this is even disputable. If Brady had retired 5-6 years ago, then it would have been a decent debate. But TB has only solidified his place.

Prime Peyton > prime Brady. Brady’s career is probably better but only because of Manning’s injury.
 
Didn't he miss a season with the pats and his backup took them to an 11-5 record? Seems like Brady was always the captain of a pretty powerful ship. The Pats sucked this year, sure, but they weren't all that special last year with your golden boy Brady either. They blew it all up to start a rebuild. They weren't supposed to be great this season. Meanwhile, Brady jumped to a team with an exceptional defense and a top WR in Evans. Brought his buddy Gronk out of retirement, then they got Fournette and AB to join. This Tampa Bay team is pretty dang good regardless of who the QB is. If Brady were the only piece missing and all the other parts were there, they would still be a contender.
The Pats didn’t blow anything up to rebuild. They just weren’t very good.
 
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And look at the Pats without Brady (this year and the year he was injured).

And now he's led the BUCS to a super bowl at 80 years old haha. Look - love Peyton - and NOBODY can take from him what he did - but don't see how this is even disputable. If Brady had retired 5-6 years ago, then it would have been a decent debate. But TB has only solidified his place.

Great QB, no doubt. I wonder how would his career have gone if the roles were reversed and he had to play most his career at Indy with their defenses? We will never know because he didn't, but I wonder if the shine would be as bright.
 
Great QB, no doubt. I wonder how would his career have gone if the roles were reversed and he had to play most his career at Indy with their defenses? We will never know because he didn't, but I wonder if the shine would be as bright.
Peyton would have 8 superbowls and Brady would have zero.
 
The only bad thing about being good in basketball... Getting Vitale as the color guy.
Guess I don't get the dislike for him. He did a lot of promoting for children's cancer programs last night and still throws in his classic "diaper dandies" line every once in a while (this time in our favor...). He also basically shat on UK last night, on top on unc, duke, kansas, etc on how they are all on the outside looking-in on March Madness.

I mean, I would take Bill Walton or Gus Johnson all day and Vitale's not quite as energetic as he once was, but everyone succumbs to age.

But I'm also someone that tends to just go along with 90% of commentators, while many seem to hate 90% of commentators. Guess I am just easily contented 😁
 
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