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Guys, it's early, I'm still tired from working last night and here I am back in the office this morning. The one solace I have is watching some old Vols games on youtube in the corner of my second monitor as I trudge through the shift.

I just finished 2005 @LSU. I know it was an ugly year where we massively underachieved, but wow what a comeback. The game wasn't pretty at all.. we didn't come back with a fury. No 50 yard TD catches or many other splash plays. Hell, we still left a lot of points on the field with drops and missed opportunities even after we clawed back into it. But we out-gutted LSU in the heat, and took control of the game from them with physicality and a lack of quit.

Can't wait to see those qualities again from Tennessee. GBO
 
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DawgInterloper said:
The debate about grad transfers is one I've been thinking about recently. I'm still not completely clear on the new rules, but I think the initial counter changes will eventually slow down the rate of schools taking transfers. Sorry for the long explanation below, but I'm interested to see if I'm wrong about this.

When some conferences went to a 25 per year limit a few years back, teams that fell below the 85 limit could still make up numbers by taking un-recruited transfers (grad or JUCO), because they didn't count against the annual 25 signing limit. And if a new signee didn't qualify, grad transfers could be used to fill that spot too, or you could sign an extra player next year and count back. There was little to no downside for taking a player who would only be around for one year, or maybe two in the case of a JUCO.

But now, if I have it right, you can only take an average of 25 initial counters over time, and that includes transfers and players who don't qualify academically, which means 100 total initial counters over 4 years. Any attrition beyond 15 total players from that 100 (over 4 years), will leave you below the 85 limit at some point. That attrition includes injuries, dropouts, non-qualifiers, transfers out, leaving early to the NFL, etc. It also includes transfers who come in with less than 4 years to play. Red shirting players would give you a longer availability, but doesn't really change the effective roster since a red shirt isn't an active participant.

Maybe somebody has a better understanding than I do, but this is my interpretation. It seems like using one of your 25 annual spots for players who can't stay at least 4 years is a liability. Honestly, I don't see how this is going to work over time without pushing some teams' scholarship rosters down to levels well below 85.
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W red shirts you have more than 4 classes to keep your 85.

So. Just as an example let's say you recruit 19 guys each year that freshman. Then you take 6 xfers or jucos each year. If you do a lot of redshirting you'd need a lot of attrition to get under 85.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Lol at Lebum and the Cavs! This was right in his face

Oladipo dashes by Smith for the emphatic jam - ESPN Video
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Bass buddy. This is looking more and more like LeBron wouldn't sign your LeBron James rookie card after you waited for hours in the cold to meet him. Your obsession is almost that of a jilted lover and I think you should seek professional help. I say this because I care. You have friends here and we only want to see you get better. :)
 
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volinbama256 said:
I'm chill, but we all know how the 2yr out kids will commit and decommit and commit and decommit and commit and decommit......... and , and, :p
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Oh I know. I still enjoy seeing a commitment.

Hell these ‘19 kids commiting 9 months out of signing day could just as easily decommit. I’ll still boom though.

Call me thirsty if you will.
 
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Glitch said:
Bass buddy. This is looking more and more like LeBron wouldn't sign your LeBron James rookie card after you waited for hours in the cold to meet him. Your obsession is almost that of a jilted lover and I think you should seek professional help. I say this because I care. You have friends here and we only want to see you get better. :)
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Lebron once asked for my autograph. I refused. He cried.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Lebron once asked for my autograph. I refused. He cried.
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