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Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t only one FCS win count towards bowl eligibility? So one of those wins will basically be pointless.

This article is from Aug 2012 but I couldn't find anything about a rule change since then so this is the most recent thing I've found that actually explains it well. It's all kinda stupid anyway. They need to reduce bowls not give everybody one. But here is the explanation:

NCAA's new bowl game tiebreakers include FCS wins, 5-7 teams

Ordinarily, teams need to finish with a minimum .500 winning percentage with at least six wins -- five against other Football Bowl Subdivision teams -- to be bowl eligible. A sixth win against a Football Championship Subdivision team only counts if the FCS school meets scholarship requirements.

Now, first consideration will go to 6-6 teams with a win against any FCS teams, regardless of scholarships, then 6-6 teams with two wins against FCS schools.

A team that finishes 6-7 and loses in a conference championship would be next, followed by 6-7 teams that normally play a 13-team schedule, such as Hawaii and its home opponents.

Then bowls could then invite FCS teams making the move to FBS, if they have at least a 6-6 record.

Finally, a team with a top-five APR that finishes 5-7 could be selected.

So the way I read that is it will only affect them if they go 6-6 and there are enough 6-6 teams with 1 or less FCS win to push them out. Which there never are. So I seriously doubt this has any negative affect on either of them.
 
I really would like to see the sec go to a nine game sec conference schedule

I'm not so sure and here's my reasoning (with the caveat that FCS schools shouldn't comprise virtually all of a school's OOC schedule).

First, I like the OOC games featuring teams from the PAC 12 or Big 10 playing a SEC school or an ACC school. To me, it's a welcome respite featuring big name programs that might rarely play each other.

Secondly, although games against FCS schools are typically mismatches, these games are vitally important to the financial health and well-being of the overall athletic departments of the FCS schools. Without these games, it's arguable those schools athletic departments can actually survive. To me, that is a big picture issue that cannot be ignored.

One last point...if a school schedules too many FCS games, they run the risk of their strength of schedule knocking them out of the playoffs. For the most part, this addresses the caveat I mentioned above and it serves as a counterpoint to those schools that want to feast and get fat on inferior competition.

JMO...
 
Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t only one FCS win count towards bowl eligibility? So one of those wins will basically be pointless.

You are correct, but CCU is a transitioning FBS team so I think that win will count. I could be wrong though.
 
I'm not so sure and here's my reasoning (with the caveat that FCS schools shouldn't comprise virtually all of a school's OOC schedule).

First, I like the OOC games featuring teams from the PAC 12 or Big 10 playing a SEC school or an ACC school. To me, it's a welcome respite featuring big name programs that might rarely play each other.

Secondly, although games against FCS schools are typically mismatches, these games are vitally important to the financial health and well-being of the overall athletic departments of the FCS schools. Without these games, it's arguable those schools athletic departments can actually survive. To me, that is a big picture issue that cannot be ignored.

One last point...if a school schedules too many FCS games, they run the risk of their strength of schedule knocking them out of the playoffs. For the most part, this addresses the caveat I mentioned above and it serves as a counterpoint to those schools that want to feast and get fat on inferior competition.

JMO...

Good points. I know at Tech, we referred to those games against SEC teams, etc. as money games. That’s why I like seeing UT play an in-state team to keep the money in our own universities.

For the most part, it’s a self-policing policy when strength of schedule comes into play. Teams like Vandy don’t really care about SOS, though, because it will never matter to them.
 
I'm not so sure and here's my reasoning (with the caveat that FCS schools shouldn't comprise virtually all of a school's OOC schedule).

First, I like the OOC games featuring teams from the PAC 12 or Big 10 playing a SEC school or an ACC school. To me, it's a welcome respite featuring big name programs that might rarely play each other.

Secondly, although games against FCS schools are typically mismatches, these games are vitally important to the financial health and well-being of the overall athletic departments of the FCS schools. Without these games, it's arguable those schools athletic departments can actually survive. To me, that is a big picture issue that cannot be ignored.

One last point...if a school schedules too many FCS games, they run the risk of their strength of schedule knocking them out of the playoffs. For the most part, this addresses the caveat I mentioned above and it serves as a counterpoint to those schools that want to feast and get fat on inferior competition.

JMO...

I don't necessarily disagree, but with the conference expansion that has occurred, keeping the traditional number of conference games creates this scenario WITHIN conferences. Case in point...Texas A&M joined the SEC in 2012 and won't play Georgia until 2019. That's pretty ridiculous and would be drastically reduced if there were a 9-game conference schedule.
 
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Dallas Warmack is grad transferring from Bama, UT interested?

We're looking into several grad transfer options right now. Feder from Ohio State is interested. Unclear if Vols will go that route, though.

-Simonton
 
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Spending a majority of his career working for one-company, one-voice men like Nick Saban and Jimbo Fisher meant that Jeremy Pruitt didn’t spend a ton of time around reporters until taking one of the more visible jobs in the country — head football coach at Tennessee. Pruitt continues to look comfortable in that role, though.

The Vols’ new coach opened his Tuesday speech at The Rotary Club of Knoxville with a joke that quickly won over the crowd. Pruitt noted that he and wife Casey both come from small towns in Alabama — him from tiny Rainsville in North Alabama, her from slightly-larger Troy in South Alabama — and that living in an area the size of Knoxville would be an adjustment for both of them.

“It’s truly been a blessing for us, and we’re excited about it,” Pruitt said. “I know that myself and Casey, we’re gonna get involved in as many things as we possibly can here in Knoxville. One thing about us is we’re from very small towns in rural Alabama, so we usually know everybody in our town. “Hopefully, aight, I’ll be here long enough that I can know everybody in this town.” After giving the crowd a couple of seconds to enjoy that laugh, though, Pruitt brought things down just a notch with a reality check. “But we’ve got a ways to go before we can be able to do that,” the coach continued.

As unfamiliar as Pruitt and his wife might be with cities the size of Knoxville, though, Tennessee’s new coach said the Southern values of his adopted hometown made it feel a lot like home. Pruitt told the crowd he was a big fan of The Rotary Club of Knoxville’s Food For Kids program, and that causes like that became even nearer and dearer to his heart when he began his career as an elementary school teacher and saw poverty-stricken children on a daily basis.

“I have firsthand knowledge of this,” he said. “Fourteen years ago I was a (kindergarten) through third grade elementary school PE teacher. When I got my degree, I wanted to be a high school football coach, and I went to work for my dad. What he did was probably … you know, really he changed my life forever in how I view things, because he said, ‘The first job you’re gonna have is you’re gonna be a K-through-third-grade PE teacher. He didn’t put me in high school, where I wanted to be.

“At the time, I really didn’t understand what he was doing. But if you sit out there in the mornings and it’s 20 degrees outside, and you see 5-, 6- and 7-year-olds get off the bus, and they have flip flops on, and they have shorts on. Those kids, you know that probably the only meal that they’re gonna get that week is gonna be at lunch at school every day. You start to appreciate what you have. To me, I think this is a fantastic organization that’s doing a phenomenal deed by helping these young kids. Until you’ve stood out there and watched ‘em, you really don’t appreciate what you have, and what you guys are doing. “I just want to say thank you for doing that. It’s a huge deal.”

- Wes Rucker, 247
 
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Any body see where Dallas Warmack, younger brother of Chance Womack, is graduating from Alabama and transferring. Redshirted this past season so he will be a RSJR and eligible to play immediately. You would think Pruitt would be all over this guy.

"Alabama will reportedly no longer have a Warmack on its roster.
That’s because reserve offensive lineman Dallas Warmack is transferring from the Crimson Tide football program, according to a report from AL.com’s Matt Zenitz. Likely confirming the report, Warmack’s Twitter profile now reads “Student-Athlete @ The University of…”
Warmack, the younger brother of All-American and first-round draft pick Chance Warmack, will graduate from Alabama this weekend and be immediately eligible as a grad transfer.
The younger Warmack did not see the field for the Tide during its 2017 championship campaign, redshirting for the first time in his three seasons in Tuscaloosa, Ala. He will be a redshirt junior at his next stop.

Guys guys guys

We're not getting any SEC transfers. Coaches NEVER allow a kid to transfer to a school within the conference, like ever.

Much like MJ/LeBron, we need to quit having this convo every time an SEC transfer pops up.
 
Guys guys guys

We're not getting any SEC transfers. Coaches NEVER allow a kid to transfer to a school within the conference, like ever.

Much like MJ/LeBron, we need to quit having this convo every time an SEC transfer pops up.

umm grad transfers can go anywhere they want and play right away.
 
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Guys guys guys

We're not getting any SEC transfers. Coaches NEVER allow a kid to transfer to a school within the conference, like ever.

Much like MJ/LeBron, we need to quit having this convo every time an SEC transfer pops up.

Maurice Smith transferred from Bama to Georgia to follow Kirby, as a grad transfer.
 
I don't necessarily disagree, but with the conference expansion that has occurred, keeping the traditional number of conference games creates this scenario WITHIN conferences. Case in point...Texas A&M joined the SEC in 2012 and won't play Georgia until 2019. That's pretty ridiculous and would be drastically reduced if there were a 9-game conference schedule.

I was going to make some snarky comment that A&M should win their division so they'll be in a position to play Georgia sooner, but Georgia's spot at the top of the east is going to be rather short-lived.

:)
 
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