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[VolsDoc81TX]

Heupel is building a program, not just a team. He gets that to catch Alabama and Georgia he’s going to have to make a statement and be able to sell tangible results to recruits, not hope and promises. These guys are shooting for Championship play now.

Heupels bar is way higher than any expectations we’ve thrown out on VolNation.

Nope, equal to mine…

15-0 and that’s just this year…

 

[butchna]

I am surprised I have someone blocked that @butchna does not. He is the one that taught me the value of the ignore button!

I didn’t know that value the first few years I spent on VN. Now it’s not an exact science. I have a few posters on ignore who are decent to good…not even negavols. There was just nothing there. Not sure why I haven’t included Jack. Mebbe it’s because he goes into his morose hole for long stretches when things are promising. If we were to lose Saturday, he’d be back in force stressing the need to hire a “proven coach” after firing Heupel next season.

 

[rocktopper16]

Our offense was not horrible...come on man.

It actually was, 120 yards in the second half total. Hendon has to be more mobile.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Tippin is always thought of as a great dude.

Think some (all of that) comes from a formerly bearded Middle Eastern Dude who lives upstairs.

That devil is not "upstairs"

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Amazes me how worked up some of you get. Like we're leading the SEC in points per game at 52.0, which is also good enough for 4th in the country. Our defense is holding opponents to 14.3 ppg and that's good enough for 27th in the country.

Akron has two bad losses to two top 15 teams on the road, really not as bad of a team as we made them look. Ball State is also not as bad as we made them look, they were close to beating Western Michigan and if they hadn't given up a big run in the 4th they would have.


Of course in SEC play we'll score less and likely give up more. I just don't think Florida's the offense that's going to "expose" us. I think we win, and if it's close or not will come down to how well their defense plays.

 

[VolInDayton]

Amazes me how worked up some of you get. Like we're leading the SEC in points per game at 52.0, which is also good enough for 4th in the country. Our defense is holding opponents to 14.3 ppg and that's good enough for 27th in the country.

Akron has two bad losses to two top 15 teams on the road, really not as bad of a team as we made them look. Ball State is also not as bad as we made them look, they were close to beating Western Michigan and if they hadn't given up a big run in the 4th they would have.


Of course in SEC play we'll score less and likely give up more. I just don't think Florida's the offense that's going to "expose" us. I think we win, and if it's close or not will come down to how well their defense plays.

There's nothing wrong with how we have played, but Akron is one of the two worst teams in the MAC and Ball St is middle of the pack to bottom half.

 

[Orange Studs]

Never seen so much up and down with, "we are going to kill them!" then Tillman is out, "were doomed!" I personally don't think this teams success or failure is laid on one persons shoulders. I believe to win its about our defense. I know we are going to score and a lot but if our D continue to play as good as they have been playing UF doesn't have a chance. And guys, its really ok to be believe we are going to win. Its not a guarantee but a confidence in this team and if we play UT football we will win. So what happens if we lose? Then we missed a golden opportunity because we are actually a good enough team in my opinion to beat both UF and then go to Death Valley and whoop some Tiger butt! GBO! Choosing to believe, sold out!!

 

[Gilbert]

Sounds like Ventrell Miller is closer to playing. May see him on Saturday.

 

[bluegrasser]

Theoretical question for you guys about refereeing at upcoming game on Saturday- I feel pretty confident in saying that I have witnessed innumerable instances over the years where SEC refs seem to proactively “favor” the team that’s got more upside for national accomplishments (making it to the playoffs, NY6 bowl, etc), in order to make the SEC look better. Could be pure conspiracy mindedness on my part.

But… is this the weekend where we actually see some of that favoritism benefit UT?

It would be nice not to have to battle the other team AND the refs…

 

[MoCo_Vol]

It actually was, 120 yards in the second half total. Hendon has to be more mobile.

We also had 4 offensive penalties for 35 yards that helped stall our 2nd half drives. As well as a fumble, blocked punt, & muffed punt. Tons of miscues contributed to stalling in the 2nd half, but 2 quarters isn't enough to call an offense that still scored 34 points and racked up 416 yards horrible.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

There's nothing wrong with how we have played, but Akron is one of the two worst teams in the MAC and Ball St is middle of the pack to bottom half.

Sure, Akron is one of the two worst teams in the MAC after losing to 2 top 15 power 5 schools on the road...

For what it's worth there are only 2 MAC teams with winning records right now. And only Western Michigan & Ball State have played any MAC schools.

 

[Volfan39]

Sounds like Ventrell Miller is closer to playing. May see him on Saturday.

Napier is just bluffing. Their writers said he was out muiltiple weeks legit two days ago. Now all of a sudden he is going to miraculously play? Yeah right

 

[bignewt]

@bignewt

get that thread started

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

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Sorry McGill, couldn’t resist.

Why don’t y’all both crossover from what happens if we lose to WGWTFA?!!!

Tennessee river is full of 15-0

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I have to see it happen, I am not getting gutted again...I am not like you, I can not just be like "Oh well, we lost..no biggie". I do not take disappointment well.

Mostly I think I am a hopeful pessimist,and it is not just about football, I have been conditioned to be that way by the circumstances in my life.

Back in 2006-2007 I was this close - to being a multimillionaire and then the economy exploded and I lost everything in a few months...and my health totally went to hell on top of that, and I spent two-three months in early 07 not being able to walk...and I have lived in chronic extreme pain ever since, and then the two strongest people I have ever known, my touchstones, the ones that always helped me get through dark times were just wiped out by cancer within two years of each other in the last 5 years....it's not just football that has made me this way.


As far as silly football goes...I believe things will get better, but until it actually does...it is what it IS, not what it could/will be...and until we win this game it is still..IS.

I think we should win, maybe even win big, but I have thought that before back when I had a less invasive case of BVS.

Go Vols! I really hope this IS the turning point.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Never seen so much up and down with, "we are going to kill them!" then Tillman is out, "were doomed!" I personally don't think this teams success or failure is laid on one persons shoulders. I believe to win its about our defense. I know we are going to score and a lot but if our D continue to play as good as they have been playing UF doesn't have a chance. And guys, its really ok to be believe we are going to win. Its not a guarantee but a confidence in this team and if we play UT football we will win. So what happens if we lose? Then we missed a golden opportunity because we are actually a good enough team in my opinion to beat both UF and then go to Death Valley and whoop some Tiger butt! GBO! Choosing to believe, sold out!!

Yeah, Mitchell played basically the whole game against Akron. Giving Beasley some rest, but also shaking off the rust. Defensively we're in really good shape going into this game from a health standpoint. Also seeing Herring, West, Josephs, Pearce all making plays and getting their confidence up is also big I think.

 

[UTSuave’]

Never seen so much up and down with, "we are going to kill them!" then Tillman is out, "were doomed!" I personally don't think this teams success or failure is laid on one persons shoulders. I believe to win its about our defense. I know we are going to score and a lot but if our D continue to play as good as they have been playing UF doesn't have a chance. And guys, its really ok to be believe we are going to win. Its not a guarantee but a confidence in this team and if we play UT football we will win. So what happens if we lose? Then we missed a golden opportunity because we are actually a good enough team in my opinion to beat both UF and then go to Death Valley and whoop some Tiger butt! GBO! Choosing to believe, sold out!!

Load the box and play the run…force AR 15 to beat us with his arm. They did us the same way with JG

 

[Orange Studs]

I have to see it happen, I am not getting gutted again...I am not like you, I can not just be like "Oh wel, we lost..no biggie". I do not take disappointment well.

Mostly I think I am a hopeful pessimist,and it is not just about football, I have been conditioned to be that way by the circumstances in my life.

Back in 2006-2007 I was this close - to being a multimillionaire and then the economy exploded and I lost everything in a few months...and my health totally went to hell on top of that, and I spent two-three months in early 07 not being able to walk...and I have lived in chronic extreme pain ever since, and then the two strongest people I have ever known, my touchstones, the ones that always helped me get through dark times were just wiped out by cancer within two years of each other in the last 5 years....it's not just football that has made me this way.


As far as silly football goes...I believe things will get better, but until it actually does...it is what it IS, not what it could/will be...and until we win this game it is still..IS.

I think we should win, maybe even win big, but I have thought that before back when I had a less invasive case of BVS.

Go Vols! I really hope this IS the turning point.

This world can be cruel McGill for sure. I can be the same way if I don't keep my eyes on Jesus. (not meant anything toward you just meant for me).

 

[jordan4vols]

I would call Sampson more of a gametime decision… I think Jabari is good to go but that doesn’t mean he will be the first in the game.

-AP

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

It actually was, 120 yards in the second half total. Hendon has to be more mobile.

He didn't just say "in the second half" at first, he said "In the game"

27 pts and 420 yards against a really good defense with multiple NFL players is not "abysmal"...that is a stupid statement.

There are ALWAYS going to be quarters or halves that you can cherry pick to say that about...especially against talented defenses, we aren't playing against cardboard cutouts out there..

Come on man..

 

[Tennessee Golfer]

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Load the box and play the run…force AR 15 to beat us with his arm. They did us the same way with JG

Right now at least, I've not seen anything from their WR group to even worry them torching our secondary either. We play the run well and seeing that QB from Akron unable to take advantage of us with his legs was reassuring for me at least. He hand a handful of throws he made down the field past 10 yards, the bulk of his passes were quick or screens just like Ball State. Why even with 32 completions his yards per completion was just 7.5.

 

[ButchAintOne]

Drinking a bit too much and getting a little noisy is a rite of passage, but I would seriously hope going to rehab, getting arrested, and getting domestic violence restraining orders would be a bit more in the minority. Perhaps I'm naive though, and everyone hanging around VN are criminals at heart.

When I was younger I drank alot. Dropped out of college .Got 2 DUI's and had to go to court ordered rehab. Went to another community college and met a girl. 10 years later hear I am married with 2 kids, have a really good job, coach travel ball and football, wife is a Sunday school teacher. Just because there is a low point on the chart doesnt mean you cant go up. Still drink busch lites and yell at my tv on Saturdays tho

 

[csprig9]

Napier is just bluffing. Their writers said he was out muiltiple weeks legit two days ago. Now all of a sudden he is going to miraculously play? Yeah right

Just giving us extra to prepare for
Our coaches might be saying the same with Tillman
Maybe he’s playing maybe he’s not

 

[Orange Studs]

Yeah, Mitchell played basically the whole game against Akron. Giving Beasley some rest, but also shaking off the rust. Defensively we're in really good shape going into this game from a health standpoint. Also seeing Herring, West, Josephs, Pearce all making plays and getting their confidence up is also big I think.

Totally agree about our defense and it sounds so strange to be so excited about our D. lol Yes we do have some weaknesses in the secondary, number 4 but love the pressure we have been generating from the DL. I believe we are going to see all those guys you mentioned at some point in the game. We are finally building depth and with some talent!

 

[YNWAvols]

Injuries trending the wrong dang way. Apologies for the BVS.