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[ACvol3]

It'd be something if one of these hits someday.

I said that all last season doing the same stuff. Had a couple weeks where just a couple games ruined it for me on. 10+ game parlay

 

[Enki_Amenra]

I said that all last season doing the same stuff. Had a couple weeks where just a couple games ruined it for me on. 10+ game parlay

I hit two 16leggers and a 17 leg last year, but I only bet like $.01 . I was just trying to figure out how parlays worked at the time. Still, won a few hundred off fanduel. Wish I'd have put even just $.50 or $1 on them.

 

[Aesius]

I hit two 16leggers and a 17 leg last year, but I only bet like $.01 . I was just trying to figure out how parlays worked at the time. Still, won a few hundred off fanduel. Wish I'd have put even just $.50 or $1 on them.

Do you make bets based on snap judgments/gut instinct or do you try to research the teams a bit?

 

[UT = Checkmate]

Very weird. Looks like him

 

[lfvol]

I know he wants to play defense in college but to be honest I think he‘s better on offense.

Maybe he can do both. How much work is really needed at DB to be an improvement for us?

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Do you make bets based on snap judgments/gut instinct or do you try to research the teams a bit?

Mostly instinct on those parlays, but for my "real" bets, I research them. Sofa score app is really good for researching the bets.

Making the big parlays helps with instincts later in the season. It makes you look closer at how a wide variety of teams perform. It gives great insight to picking what may happen in later games.

 

[UTSuave’]

I hit two 16leggers and a 17 leg last year, but I only bet like $.01 . I was just trying to figure out how parlays worked at the time. Still, won a few hundred off fanduel. Wish I'd have put even just $.50 or $1 on them.

Boy do I have a doozy for you..same scenario but only bet 1$ played the whole game schedule straight down..literally all of the games that day.

 

[Brillovol]

@Brillovol - hey man - you need a TE in the Moran Invitational.

I tried to add one, but it won’t be active this week. Is there a way around the stupid waiver requirement?

 

[BigSteve09]

Joshua Josephs:

“I feel it was midway through fall camp. My teammates were like man you can really help us,” Josephs offered. “They were boosting me up. I realized I was giving the offense and the o-line some work. I can actually help the team this year if I stay on track and stay focused and do my thing.”

Saturday, Josephs did what he has done in every game he has played in. Josephs had two quarterback hits/hurries including a near safety and he had a tackle.

In 51 snaps played on the year, he has 4 quarterback hurries, 4 tackles and a PBU. He also has four missed tackles.

“My first couple of games there was a little hesitation on the field. But not now, against Florida, I got out there and I was playing full speed with no hesitation and doing my thing. The game has come to me more naturally over time.”

“My long arm,” Joseph said of what fundamental work he has been focused on. “Everyone knows my wingspan is pretty big. Once I learn how to use my long arm to the full extent then I feel like I will be way more effective. I have been working on that for sure.

“This week that’s one of my main focus along will working on my pass rush moves, not just my long arms but quick speed moves. Anything to help me beat the guy I’m going against.”

Tennessee head coach Josh Heupel likes what he has seen from Josephs through four games and believes Josephs along with fellow freshman Tyre West can play bigger roles moving forward this fall.
“I think those guys are going to continue to grow here as we go. We’re deeper and able to play more guys who are able to play harder for longer and play at a higher level. Those two guys’ continued growth here is something I’m really excited about seeing here on the back two-third of the season.”

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Boy do I have a doozy for you..same scenario but only bet 1$ played the whole game schedule straight down..literally all of the games that day.

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A thing of pure beauty. Only thing those wins do to me is make me kick myself for not betting more, . Still, I stick to $.50-$1 on big parlays. I put $4 on one last week, but it was bad and I re-learned a lesson.

 

[csprig9]

Glad they are ok.
Born here in Fort Myers & stayed through many Hurricanes but this was like nothing i have ever heard or seen before. It will take time before things can get back up & going economically. Many down here wondering if we still have jobs.
Most of us that stayed are just happy to be alive.

My parents stayed and made it out alright
Fort myers beach is bad

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Joshua Josephs:

“I feel it was midway through fall camp. My teammates were like man you can really help us,” Josephs offered. “They were boosting me up. I realized I was giving the offense and the o-line some work. I can actually help the team this year if I stay on track and stay focused and do my thing.”

Saturday, Josephs did what he has done in every game he has played in. Josephs had two quarterback hits/hurries including a near safety and he had a tackle.

In 51 snaps played on the year, he has 4 quarterback hurries, 4 tackles and a PBU. He also has four missed tackles.

“My first couple of games there was a little hesitation on the field. But not now, against Florida, I got out there and I was playing full speed with no hesitation and doing my thing. The game has come to me more naturally over time.”

“My long arm,” Joseph said of what fundamental work he has been focused on. “Everyone knows my wingspan is pretty big. Once I learn how to use my long arm to the full extent then I feel like I will be way more effective. I have been working on that for sure.

“This week that’s one of my main focus along will working on my pass rush moves, not just my long arms but quick speed moves. Anything to help me beat the guy I’m going against.”

Tennessee head coach Josh Heupel likes what he has seen from Josephs through four games and believes Josephs along with fellow freshman Tyre West can play bigger roles moving forward this fall.
“I think those guys are going to continue to grow here as we go. We’re deeper and able to play more guys who are able to play harder for longer and play at a higher level. Those two guys’ continued growth here is something I’m really excited about seeing here on the back two-third of the season.”

"My long arm" has me thinking:

 

[bigl3327]

see that's the problem with your ilk, it's "the spin"....who gives a crap about spin? do we have an actual understanding of what that means? lol. it's literally embellishing a fact, or facts, toward a specific point of view with the intent of either swaying opinion one direction or the other, or deflect attention away from something. so that's problem 1.

the DB's haven't been good before or since his hire. it's not like we've seen some epic downgrade in performance SINCE he's gotten here. and we had two guys here previously in head coach and defensive coordinator that most well informed people in football would tell you were great secondary coaches. and i couldn't tell you that the DB's were appreciably better than they are now.

what i have seen, in WM's previous stint here, is that he got guys like mosely and sutton to the NFL. and i think there were a couple more that wound up in the NFL under his tutelage here, and elsewhere.

right now, i don't think we have an overly talented group of DB's and we're very safety/nickel heavy, and not a lot of experience to go around. but we knew that, have known that and it probably isn't changing before the end of the season.

WM is a fantastic recruiter, and he does develop guys. but typically when he's been here, we've not gotten the cream of the crop talent, he didn't inherit any cream of the crop talent, so my suspicion is that development has taken longer than anyone likes, him included probably.

plus, corner is one of the hardest positions to play on the field, and over past few seasons we've seen a heavy shift to much improved passing games in the SEC, with some of the best QB's and WR's in college football...so while I wont' tell you we're awesome on the back end, i'm also not going to tell you that's BECAUSE of the coach that's been here, a 2nd time, now for only 16 games, and 1 full cycle off season.

What Coach WM has accomplished in his career won't matter to his detractors. His track record shows that he has helped put several lower rated players get into the NFL, and they have done well. To me, that shows the ability to identify and develop talent. To the detractors, it says those players were severely underrated or developed in the NFL. Starting with the recruiting classes of '23 and '24, he'll have the talent available to produce multiple early round picks if developed properly. I think getting 3 DB's drafted in the same year from a very poor UCF defense should be proof enough. Some will say they haven't seen enough if he gets 3 drafted in the first round. I love my Vols through and through, but some in our fanbase can be considered "the legion of the miserable". We do not have top 10 talent from a recruiting perspective, yet here we sit in the top 10. Some should take a moment to appreciate what these coaches and players have accomplished in the moment, because these moments have been few. Imperfect success is still success.

 

[Glitch]

That’s a good boy.

The goodest boy.

 

[scienceteaching_vol]

I work with someone who knew him then and she laughs that he's a head coach now.

 

[Vol464]

Why’s he mad? It’s poker.. it’s a bluff.. I don’t get it

He is a sore loser?

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

 

[lfvol]

see that's the problem with your ilk, it's "the spin"....who gives a crap about spin? do we have an actual understanding of what that means? lol. it's literally embellishing a fact, or facts, toward a specific point of view with the intent of either swaying opinion one direction or the other, or deflect attention away from something. so that's problem 1.

the DB's haven't been good before or since his hire. it's not like we've seen some epic downgrade in performance SINCE he's gotten here. and we had two guys here previously in head coach and defensive coordinator that most well informed people in football would tell you were great secondary coaches. and i couldn't tell you that the DB's were appreciably better than they are now.

what i have seen, in WM's previous stint here, is that he got guys like mosely and sutton to the NFL. and i think there were a couple more that wound up in the NFL under his tutelage here, and elsewhere.

right now, i don't think we have an overly talented group of DB's and we're very safety/nickel heavy, and not a lot of experience to go around. but we knew that, have known that and it probably isn't changing before the end of the season.

WM is a fantastic recruiter, and he does develop guys. but typically when he's been here, we've not gotten the cream of the crop talent, he didn't inherit any cream of the crop talent, so my suspicion is that development has taken longer than anyone likes, him included probably.

plus, corner is one of the hardest positions to play on the field, and over past few seasons we've seen a heavy shift to much improved passing games in the SEC, with some of the best QB's and WR's in college football...so while I wont' tell you we're awesome on the back end, i'm also not going to tell you that's BECAUSE of the coach that's been here, a 2nd time, now for only 16 games, and 1 full cycle off season.

 

[mrMet]

She gave him the money back?

I don’t think so

 

[UTProf]

Very weird. Looks like him

If the kid is from Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Palestine etc. (and I'm basing that on the language in the recording because even the words using the roman alphabet are Arabic) it's not too surprising. They are basically Mediterranean peoples like Greece and Italy which conquered those areas at various times before various other conquests by Persians, Arabs, and of course the Crusades which brought a ton of other Europeans into the mix. Tennessee had a Speaker of the House who was of Lebanese descent for eons and I don't mean he was from Lebanon, TN in Jimmy Naifeh. And of course, we had Coach Derek Dooley who might not be the most likeable representative for Vol fans but he also had Lebanese ancestry via his awesome mom Barbara (sorry still love how outspoken she was!).

 

[UTSuave’]

Only thing those wins do to me is make me kick myself for not betting more

Bro!…literally felt this

 

[DaddyChad]

Martinez only has about two decades of being a DB coach at elite programs like Georgia, Tennessee, Auburn, Oklahoma

He’s coached the following players now in the NFL:
DB Alontae Taylor, New Orleans Saints, 2022
DB Theo Jackson, Tennessee Titans, 2022
DB Kenneth George Jr., Tennessee Titans, 2022
DB Richie Grant, Atlanta Falcons, 2021
DB Aaron Robinson, New York Giants, 2021
DB Tay Gowan, Arizona Cardinals, 2021
DB Micah Abernathy, Minnesota Vikings, 2019
DB Rashaan Gaulden, Carolina Panthers, 2018
DB Emmanuel Moseley, San Francisco 49ers, 2018
DB Cameron Sutton, Pittsburgh Steelers, 2017
DB Justin Coleman, Seattle Seahawks, 2015
DB Aaron Colvin, Jacksonville Jaguars, 2014
DB Shawn Williams, Cincinnati Bengals, 2013
DB Sanders Commings, Kansas City Chiefs, 2013
LB Cornelius Washington, Chicago Bears, 2013
DB Bacarri Rambo, Washington, 2013
DB Jamell Fleming, Arizona Cardinals, 2012
DB Brandon Boykin, Philadelphia Eagles, 2012
DE DeAngelo Tyson, Baltimore Ravens, 2012
DB Quinton Carter, Denver Broncos, 2011
DB Jonathan Nelson, St. Louis Rams, 2011
LB Rennie Curran, Tennessee Titans, 2010
DT Geno Atkins, Cincinnati Bengals, 2010
DB Reshad Jones, Miami Dolphins, 2010
DT Jeff Owens, Philadelphia Eagles, 2010
DE Kade Weston, New England Patriots, 2010
DB Asher Allen, Minnesota Vikings, 2009
DT Corvey Irvin, Carolina Panthers, 2009
DE Jarius Wynn, Green Bay Packers, 2009
LB Marcus Howard, Indianapolis Colts, 2008
DB Paul Oliver, San Diego Chargers, 2007
DE Quentin Moses, Oakland Raiders, 2007
DE Charles Johnson, Carolina Panthers, 2007
DB Tim Jennings, Indianapolis Colts, 2006
DB Greg Blue, Minnesota Vikings, 2006
DB Demario Minter, Cleveland Browns, 2006
DT Kedric Golston, Washington, 2006
DB Thomas Davis, Carolina Panthers, 2005
DB Sean Jones, Cleveland Browns, 2004
DB Bruce Thornton, Dallas Cowboys, 2004
DB Terreal Bierria, Seattle Seahawks, 2002
DB Jermaine Phillips, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2002
DB Tim Wansley, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2002

But you guys are probably right that he sucks. Just wish all these programs could figure out how terrible he is where they could quit hiring him and all these poor kids that he’s sent to the NFL.

 

[Weezer]

Tn has a really good shot to get Bama, better than the hope you are giving them. Tn only problem is our secondary sucks. But Bama can be had and will be had. Not saying Tn will curb stomp them but they will not curb stomp Tn. We have the offense to play with them. Tn run game will need to do its part. Bamas D is not that great.

 

[SmokinBob]

UF’s Trey Dean was injured against the Vols this past weekend and will be Out of action this week.


















He was severely burned.

 

[Weezer]

He's just throwing a fit. He got caught up in the 1st bets odds that favored him heavily like 70 percent but when he went all in the cards said he had a 53 percent chance. He is just mad that someone who looks like a Kardashian clone beat him but hell that's part of her bluff. The low cut shirt did its job.[/QUOTE]

Definitely caught my attention.