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johnfnkelly said:
Imagine thinking a team with Curry, Klay and KD doesn't win 2 rings. A team with Curry, Klay, Poole, Wiggins doesn't win a ring.

I'll give him credit for the 2015 ring - but he was also the player crying on the phone begging for KD to join the Warriors after Lebron humbled them.
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Lebron humbled them? You mean when the league suspended Draymond and the Warriors failed to win without him with a 3-1 lead? Lol you’re quite literally proving my point
 
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MarcoVol said:
Your take on this is horrible.

Draymond overrated for the Warriors for those championships? That’s absurd. If anything he’s under appreciated for what he provided. Just listen to what the other players who won these rings with him have to say.

Draymond has always made some questionable decisions. This isn’t new. The org know it. They take the trade off bc he’s so valuable to them. Dumb decision by him, won’t change a dang thing tho and is no big deal.
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I'm not going to continue arguing this point but it's not difficult to look good when you're playing next to the two best shooters to ever pick up a basketball. He was a good defender but his best skill was being the enforcer for GSW.
 
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mrMet said:
Lebron humbled them? You mean when the league suspended Draymond and the Warriors failed to win without him with a 3-1 lead? Lol you’re quite literally proving my point
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And one of the years KD was there, @johnfnkelly , Dray avg 10p 7.9r 7a 2s 1b. Yeah they DEF win without him🤦🏻‍♂️ Hot takes are hot today boys!!
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
"are down about 4 points" isn't the same is "averaging 4ppg"

hope this helps.
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So his ppg are down 4 points from 2017? Where he has played a significant role for the Dubs while avg 7.5 SINCE 2017 lol. Dumb takes are dumb
 
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mrMet said:
And one of the years KD was there, @johnfnkelly , Dray avg 10p 7.9r 7a 2s 1b. Yeah they DEF win without him🤦🏻‍♂️ Hot takes are hot today boys!!
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Imagine thinking these offensive numbers are hard to produce when defenses are worried about KD, Curry and Klay ever possession.

You're delusional if you truly believe a team consisting of KD, Curry and Klay don't win a ring without a glorified role player.
 
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johnfnkelly said:
Imagine thinking these offensive numbers are hard to produce when defenses are worried about KD, Curry and Klay ever possession.

You're delusional if you truly believe a team consisting of KD, Curry and Klay don't win a ring without a glorified role player.
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About as delusional as you saying Draymond is a has been when the only stat that has “dropped off” over a 4 year span is his ppg by a WHOPPING 4 points. Wooooo
 
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johnfnkelly said:
I'm not going to continue arguing this point but it's not difficult to look good when you're playing next to the two best shooters to ever pick up a basketball. He was a good defender but his best skill was being the enforcer for GSW.
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Entitled to your opinion. But you should research what Steph and Klay have to say about Draymond and his impact and value.

Also he was way more than a defender and enforcer. His role wasn’t to score. They literally run the offense through him at times tho. His vision and anticipation are elite.
 
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I think the fact he's had 2 seasons in the last 3 years where he failed to play 50 games is more of a sign that his impact for GS isn't what it used to be. With guys like Moody, Looney, Poole, Wiggins, Porter Jr., Payton II, and Kuminga now on the squad and all under 30 seems like a changing of the guard.

The timing is bad, and it wasn't like they had a scuffle on the court and he threw a punch. From the clip shown he instigated everything, approaching Poole and then sucker punching him. Had this happened 3 or 4 years ago when Green was still playing all the time then maybe it'd be less of a deal. Mostly I think the fact Poole hadn't signed his extension is going to force GS into a tough situation.
 
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johnfnkelly said:
Way out of line. Either Jordan Poole, the future of GSW demands a trade or Draymond gets let go. Dude just put a potential repeat in jeopardy in a blink of eye.

There's no going back from that. You're a 30 year old professional athlete - act like it.
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He just salty because Poole about to get that contract extension and Draymond contract is up but he’s about to end up in the scrap pile on some other team.
 
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mrMet said:
About as delusional as you saying Draymond is a has been when the only stat that has “dropped off” over a 4 year span is his ppg by a WHOPPING 4 points. Wooooo
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Draymond's win shares from 15-18 - 11.1 , 8.2 , 6.1.

Draymond's win shares from last season - 3.6.

Yeah, not a has been. Right.
 
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mrMet said:
So his ppg are down 4 points from 2017? Where he has played a significant role for the Dubs while avg 7.5 SINCE 2017 lol. Dumb takes are dumb
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Yeah, it's math. You go from around 12 ppg to 7.5 since that's down 4 points... it's not a dumb take it's a stat that you can verify and confirm. He's playing less games and become a less productive scorer for the team in the last 4 seasons.

I mean he's also below 30% from 3 in all of these last 4 seasons as well. First time in his career he's been that low since his rookie year.
 
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