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[KB5252]

Ok. Serious question. Are we really gonna be super pissed off if we don't make the playoffs?

Yes. I'll be ticked if we get screwed out of it, but seriously. We WILL have had an 11-1 season, with a Sugar Bowl! Who came close to expecting that before the season?

Enjoy the ride my friends.

I'm in the same boat, we deserve as much as any team not named Georgia to be there. If you took the record and strength of those regular season wins and put them against anyone else's in the country there no way we don't get in.

I'll be pissed because we should have been there but it's been a great ride. A great season to remember.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

Watching SEC final show. They were recapping Kentucky game. Dude, that stadium was half empty to start the the game.

Can't believe Stoops bought into his own hype and stayed. It gets bad from here. I actually think he's a good coach though.

Mullen

 

[nicksjuzunk]

Texas am is 3-7. Wow.

Paying Jimbo 3.3 million per win this year

 

[vol4eva]

We’ve faced three Top 10 CFP ranked teams and beaten two of them. It’d be absurd if we don’t get in.

 

[Jack Burton]

Auburn mods believe Kiffin will be the next Auburn coach.

So is Kiffin going to Auburn?

Yes, if they are smart. Wait too long and Kiffin could take another big job. He may not be liked around here, but he has proven himself at Ole Miss.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

Anyone else notice how Dorkiwitz kept coddling Luther Burden every time he came off the field? It was weird, like a boyfriend who knows the relationship is over and keeps asking what he can do to save it. I think Burden is portal bound for sure after the season.

Announcers knew it and kept reassuring him everything was ok when he’d get an 8 yard pass. Funny when our WR’s are accumulating 40+ yards a reception in the same game

 

[nicksjuzunk]

Someone tell him that looks really bad.

You can be a clown when you are a winner. But when you aren’t…. Man the look is bad

 

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[Ulysees E. McGill]

We are 38th in victories, 1718-1083-2 (.613). Average of about 15 wins a year. 0 Final Fours. 1 Elite 8. Prior to Bruce Pearl, we had just 3 Sweet 16 appearances in the 66 years between 1939-2005.

In fact, the 1967 S16 appearance only counts because we had a bye to the S16 and lost to eventual runner up Dayton. 1981 was a 48 team bracket and we had a first round bye. We beat VCU by 1 in OT to advance then lost to Virginia (who got third). The 2000 one was the only one in the current format (but no play-in games).

That isn't great. The vast majority of our success has been recent history. In the past 17 years we've added 5 S16 appearances and the lone E8. In the past 17 years it looks like we've averaged 22 wins per season and added a little over a 5th of all our wins. So 21% of our wins coming in the last 15% of our history.

We are definitely becoming a mainstay. But prior to Bruce... maybe "suck" wasn't accurate. But we weren't good.

Like I said...we were the definition of "Meh"

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I never said it was “great”. I was responding to the bogus claim that a poster said the history “sucked” which certainly isn’t true when we break everything down

Sure..if you don't think being just barely good enough to not be called the worst is not sucky...most of us think pure mediocrity "sucks"

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I’m looking at Tennessee’s history from inception to now as well as the other 300+ programs in the country. Tennessee is a Top 30 basketball program historically from start to now compared to the other 300+ when you consider wins, win percentage, tournament appearances, weeks ranked, and all of that stuff. Yeah obviously there are alot of down years in there but so have there been in every program not named Kansas, Duke Kentucky etc. I’m not advocating for replacing the Coach. Just the bogus notion that Tennessee basketball history “sucks”. If that was the case then everyone that isn’t a Top 25 program history wise “sucks” out of 300+ programs

Being meh-diocre absolutely sucks.

 

[NMVol]

I do not approve of basketball discussions in the football forum, but many of you are missing the legacy impact of the mixture unicycles and basketball in the pregame activity brought on by Ray Mears.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

and no I’m NOT advocating for a coaching change… FYI just in case any poster takes what I’m saying the wrong way.

I didn't think so, but you are definitely trying to downplay how good we are with Rick Barnes compared to most of our past...it is much better...we may not be the greatest, but we sure as hell ain't meh-diocre anymore.

 

[VolInDayton]

We’ve faced three Top 10 CFP ranked teams and beaten two of them. It’d be absurd if we don’t get in.

The football playoff was created to make sure a team like UT didn't get left out. If it were OSU, Bama, or Clemson with our resume they would get in without a doubt. IF we go out there and beat South Carolina and Vandy like we should, we should get in. They can't start valuing the conference championships so much where it's used to get a subpar USC or Clemson in over us. If TCU goes undefeated they deserve to be in there.

 

[Orange_Crush]

They seem surprisingly rational, realistic and levelheaded over there (except that it'll be Milton throwing the 75 yard TD if it's Q3 or later).

 

[walkenvol]

While I would like to believe this - I believe it is sprinkled in Orange pixie dust. I predict he plays like the Florida QB plays - some good games and some not so good games. I don't think he understands reading defenses - he isn't even close to being on the same level mentally as Hooker.

What have you seen in Milton’s play this season to arrive at that conclusion? I’m not sure he struggled reading defenses last season as it appeared to be accuracy issues were the problem then. The accuracy has markedly improved in the very limited sample size this year. The “soft” running has changed as he’s started looking to truck guys. I’m not saying Milton is a can’t miss qb next year, but saying he can’t read defenses appears unfounded IMO. Please point out examples of his poor reading of defenses to support your criticism of Milton

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

And KY with Levis lost to both.

Actually Levis didn't play against SC.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Spoiled by our high-scoring offense? We didn't start with the ball for one. We scored on our first drive. Our second drive was turnover on downs near field goal range. On those first 2 drives, Hooker was 5/8, which is good for 62.5%. Not bad at all. And he also had a 17-yard run mixed in there. The only criticism I have is taking a sack on 4th down. We did score on our 3rd possession; it just happened to carry over into the 2nd quarter (by 29 seconds). Many QBs can get in a rhythm throughout the course of a game. I don't think it's accurate to say he starts slow though. It's more like he finishes well above average.

That sack he took on 4th down sucked though..he had Hyatt running free to the middle, and instead of pulling the trigger he chose to wait on Keyton to get open deep, he didn't and time ran out, and so that sack was not on the OL...it was all on him.

I don't like criticizing Hendon, I love the guy, but he can't make those mistakes again against UGA if we are going to win...WRs running free happen way less often.

 

[Jackcrevol]

That sack he took on 4th down sucked though..he had Hyatt running free to the middle, and instead of pulling the trigger he chose to wait on Keyton to get open deep, he didn't and time ran out, and so that sack was not on the OL...it was all on him.

I don't like criticizing Hendon, I love the guy, but he can't make those mistakes again against UGA if we are going to win...WRs running free happen way less often.

Perhaps he saw something our/my untrained eyes didnt.

I saw the same thing on the replay and didnt get it.

 

[Glitch]

Auburn mods believe Kiffin will be the next Auburn coach.

I still don't see why anybody would willingly walk into that dumpster fire. Their expectations are unrealistic and their patience is even shorter than most. He could just hang out at Ole Miss and go 9-3 or 10-2 every year with an occasional run at the playoffs with much less drama. Whatever though. If Kiffin wants to jump into that bucket of crazy then more power to him.

 

[Jackcrevol]

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They seem surprisingly rational, realistic and levelheaded over there (except that it'll be Milton throwing the 75 yard TD if it's Q3 or later).

Wonder if that guy just rolls over for his wife's boyfriend?

 

[jpope9]

 

[head1]

What have you seen in Milton’s play this season to arrive at that conclusion? I’m not sure he struggled reading defenses last season as it appeared to be accuracy issues were the problem then. The accuracy has markedly improved in the very limited sample size this year. The “soft” running has changed as he’s started looking to truck guys. I’m not saying Milton is a can’t miss qb next year, but saying he can’t read defenses appears unfounded IMO. Please point out examples of his poor reading of defenses to support your criticism of Milton

Agree and to be honest Hooker doesn't read defenses "great" because he still misses a lot of wide open receivers so I don't think that would be a huge fall off.

Milton just has to learn to take some heat off the ball in the right places. And our WRs better be on the jugs machine this summer like Hyatt catching balls on the highest speed to get ready.

 

[Orange_Crush]

I still don't see why anybody would willingly walk into that dumpster fire. Their expectations are unrealistic and their patience is even shorter than most. He could just hang out at Ole Miss and go 9-3 or 10-2 every year with an occasional run at the playoffs with much less drama. Whatever though. If Killin wants to jump into that bucket of crazy then more power to him.

Odd. At first, I thought you meant Kiffin == the dumpster fire and was agreeing.

Auburn needs stability. Will they really look at the guy who left UT in the middle of the night after one season and has since shown himself to be about as stayed and stable as a fly on a turd at every stop since?

They say you fight fire with fire. Maybe two dumpster fires passing in the night would merely be a dumpster hire.