Recruiting Forum Football Talk VI

[Devo182]

I agree with all of this...but, I also believe a privately-owned company can test for whatever they please, however they please, and the employee/potential empolyee can choose to either take said test, or not.

However, yes, I think it's the height of absurdity to test/not hire/fire because of marijuana, while keeping a bottle in the filing cabinet for office celebrations or knock-off time at the plant.

Oh I fully agree too. Private employers should have the choice to test or filter employees for anything they choose, minus protected parameters.

2nd paragraph is spot-on.

 

[Orange_Crush]

I agree with all of this...but, I also believe a privately-owned company can test for whatever they please, however they please, and the employee/potential empolyee can choose to either take said test, or not.

However, yes, I think it's the height of absurdity to test/not hire/fire because of marijuana, while keeping a bottle in the drawer for office celebrations or knock-off time at the plant.

People should generally have the right to be stupid and/or self-sabotaging to the extent that it doesn't infringe on the rights of others. (Not calling MJ users stupid. It's a general reference to a general principle.) The company can have the right to have absurd hiring practices, even to the extent that it's detrimental and stupid preferences rob them of outstanding employees. People should have the right to do things that would be detrimental to them getting the jobs they'd like to have, as well.

Companies don't have the right to go into homes and enforce behaviors, and potential employees don't have the right to demand a job/career/money.

Life is in many ways a process of learning the art of merging into society while simultaneously respecting the rights of others, preserving your own, and deciding to live and accept the repercussions of your own decisions/actions/ideals.

If smoking pot is more important to you than your preferred career, more power to you. Just be careful of the demands you make on others as you embrace the hippy lettuce.

 

[Orange_Crush]

I agree with all of this...but, I also believe a privately-owned company can test for whatever they please, however they please, and the employee/potential empolyee can choose to either take said test, or not.

However, yes, I think it's the height of absurdity to test/not hire/fire because of marijuana, while keeping a bottle in the drawer for office celebrations or knock-off time at the plant.

Duplicate. I blame the marajuanas. They make me twice as productive.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Oh I fully agree too. Private employers should have the choice to test or filter employees for anything they choose, minus protected parameters.

2nd paragraph is spot-on.

Agreed. You said it much more succinctly than I. Imagine that. lol

 

[Devo182]

I agree with all of this...but, I also believe a privately-owned company can test for whatever they please, however they please, and the employee/potential empolyee can choose to either take said test, or not.

However, yes, I think it's the height of absurdity to test/not hire/fire because of marijuana, while keeping a bottle in the filing cabinet for office celebrations or knock-off time at the plant.

Oh I fully agree too. Private employers should have the choice to test or filter employees for anything they choose, minus protected parameters.

2nd paragraph is spot-on. It's the blatant hypocrisy and bias that kills me. It is just so ingrained in society, it's hardly ever questioned. The alcohol industry has done a bangup job of making folks think it belongs in a separate category...or not more harmful and destructive than many illegal substances.

 

[volbeast33]

Agree, he did think that. They also had Lindsey on a short leash, which I admire them doing. Kept them in the game by quick hooks.

I just dont coach worship anymore. TV, Heup, Rick are all high quality. Glad to have them and hope each win at least one NC. But it is OK with me for anybody to acknowledge they mess up just like we do at times. My hope has been that our guys win at least one game. I have no delusions they will win it all. Too many weak links IMO.

Lindsey is a sinkerball pitcher. His slider is a small breaker that is flat and has a mediocre changeup. JMO - he was getting hit hard in the previous start because he was inexperienced in games of that magnitude. He was overthrowing in that one and this one - look at the balls/strikes of his pitchcount. That's nerves and adrenaline pumping. His fastball was 94-96 and he was not throwing strikes and locating, which he has to do to be successful. It's not going to sink at that speed, it flattens out. He does his best work at 90-93. LSU is a strong hitting team against power pitching. It was predictable to me that he may not do well due to the situation and his inexperience in them based on his last performance and being out of baseball the season before.

Halvorson is also a power pitcher and why he had more trouble as well. His pitches are flatter due to the velocity. USM is not near the hitting team of LSU and it showed.

It was a match-up issue. Dollander is a highball pitcher with more velocity, movement and big game moments from the season before. Beam's pitching was stellar in his last outing. He commanded all of his pitches, located great and the ball was moving. Both were better match-ups against LSU in my and other minds.

But the only opinion that mattered was TV's. I share the sentiment that it would be a huge disservice to one of the most important players on the team by far to not have the opportunity to pitch in the CWS. I hope it works out for him and us that he does not have to experience that disappointment.

Lindsey has a better ERA, Whip, less hr/9 innings than Dollander/Beam, more so’s per 9 than Beam….. I disagree that increased velocity makes a sinker flatter… No matter who pitched, LSU was going to be tough with Skenes…..Ride with who brought you…. Let’s go Dollander…. Get the win Monday.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Oh I fully agree too. Private employers should have the choice to test or filter employees for anything they choose, minus protected parameters.

2nd paragraph is spot-on. It's the blatant hypocrisy and bias that kills me. It is just so ingrained in society, it's hardly ever questioned. The alcohol industry has done a bangup job of making folks think it belongs in a separate category...or not more harmful and destructive than many illegal substances.

Let's face it, you smoke the krazy kale, you're too damn lazy to come home and beat your wife and kids.

 

[Jackcrevol]

How do they grade umpires to get to this stage? If he’s been like that all year then how did they approve that joker. Last nights game should be enough to never have him back at regionals.

Normally I am half heartedly saying they suck, that guy was full on knee pad, suck.

 

[TrippieRedd]

I hope Anderson’s visit to Oklahoma sucked.

 

[Nash_Vol97]

In a world where Dave Ramsey is allowed to screen applicants by if they are religious or not, companies should be able to screen for marijuana. However, that’s just their talent pool that will shrink. It’s also more money spent on each applicant they select for hire. Save money and have a larger hiring pool? If I’m an employer, sign me up for no drug testing.

 

[Orange_Crush]

In a world where Dave Ramsey is allowed to screen applicants by if they are religious or not, companies should be able to screen for marijuana. However, that’s just their talent pool that will shrink. It’s also more money spent on each applicant they select for hire. Save money and have a larger hiring pool? If I’m an employer, sign me up for no drug testing.

 

[volbeast33]

Oh I fully agree too. Private employers should have the choice to test or filter employees for anything they choose, minus protected parameters.

2nd paragraph is spot-on. It's the blatant hypocrisy and bias that kills me. It is just so ingrained in society, it's hardly ever questioned. The alcohol industry has done a bangup job of making folks think it belongs in a separate category...or not more harmful and destructive than many illegal substances.

Someone is really upset that they can’t smoke before work.

 

[Devo182]

I got ya. And I get you. I remember being a younger guy with hair down to my back. I knew if I wanted a certain type of job, I'd need to cut my hair before the interview as the bosses bragged about their $30 haircuts.

If I wanted that job, I cut my hair. You can call it hypocrisy. OK. I'll still call it their prerogative.

I cut my hair, by the way. Because I didn't have a right to walk in and demand they give me job/money/career on my terms. It was theirs to either give or not.

You can smoke pot on your terms and get jobs on your terms. They can give the jobs on their terms.

Certainly.

Everyone, even private companies, have their rights on how to function. Then have choices to make based on others' rights. And yet we can still point out the hypocrisy of their choices. Both can be true.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Someone is really upset that they can’t smoke before work.

[Ricky Williams has entered the chat.]

 

[Vols4us]

So Dollander is good enough to beat LSU and their number 1 and number 2 draft pick players, but not Stanford? I get some of your logic, but not following that line of thought. Baseball is a game of what the stats say over time as well as pitcher routines. It is something you just don't mess with after 50+ games tell you what you should do. Dollander's fastball movement has not been even close to what it was last year, thus why they moved Lindsey to the Friday night role.

Never said he's not good enough for Stanford. It was all about yesterday - LSU. Dollander got it together after the third inning in his last game. but he is also prone to the HR ball. Our guys need to hit better and they will be going against Matthews who is one of the best as well. I'm sure TV will be quick with the hook to Burns if necessary.

I'm saying Dollander was a better match-up for LSU . Their guys look for an excel at waist down on pitches. They will chase the higher zone stuff.

If the ump does not call high strikes tomorrow, Stanford will work the counts for walks and play more small ball anyway. They are very disciplined whereas LSU is more free swinging.

Lindsey failed his last two starts. Dollander and Beam succeeded in the SR. It was clear to some of us the style/experience versus the match-ups mattered. To others, not so much. Moving on, doesn't matter what I think.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Certainly.

Everyone, even private companies, have their rights on how to function. Then have choices to make based on others' rights. And yet we can still point out the hypocrisy of their choices. Both can be true.

My bad. Misinterpreted. Peace, amigo.

Needs to be done nationwide and dropped from employment screens too. Too many states have ok'd it. The Olympics needs to follow suit. It's not an enhancer unless competitive munchies becomes a thing.

 

[Devo182]

Someone is really upset that they can’t smoke before work.

Lol nah I really don't care to smoke. Never really fit me tbh. Had a few good experiences when younger, but more often just made me tired.

Also in manufacturing, so not an option even if I cared...but I'd rather do real psychedelics in my free time anyway, not that bush league, tiddlywinks crap

 

[OrangenSC]

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This isn't tough, right? Well, we may have to face Skenes again on Thursday if LSU decides to bring him back on 4 days rest.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

I can't take my dog to the pond anymore because the ducks keep attacking him. That's what I get for buying a pure bread dog.

People in Athens rarely get up before sunrise. Dawn is tough on Greece.

Never date a tennis player. Love means nothing to them.





Happy Father's Day Morans!

You are so fired.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Lol nah I really don't care to smoke. Never really fit me tbh. Had a few good experiences when younger, but more often just made me tired.

Also in manufacturing, so not an option even if I cared...but I'd rather do real psychedelics in my free time anyway, not that bush league, tiddlywinks crap

THC always made me tired-paranoid, cotton-mouthed hungry. WTH?

Never liked it.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Also, it race time, folks!

 

[UTProf]

Lol nah I really don't care to smoke. Never really fit me tbh. Had a few good experiences when younger, but more often just made me tired.

Also in manufacturing, so not an option even if I cared...but I'd rather do real psychedelics in my free time anyway, not that bush league, tiddlywinks crap

I have never done psychadelics and have only smoked weed like 2 times in my life and that was many moons ago. I do know that weed stays in your screens for eons though.

 

[crawdaddyjc]

with my job- we have company vehicles that we drive. the background checks, drug tests and a zero tolerance policy is due to insurance requirements.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

VN still acting up for anyone else?

Yes, seems worse than before

 

[Devo182]

In a world where Dave Ramsey is allowed to screen applicants by if they are religious or not

Smdh. Nothing would surprise me from that joker salesman.

It's almost like he has no idea what he's talking about...financially...legally, anything. "Yeah I went bankrupt in real estate, my one attempt at making money not selling an idea...and have only ever made money selling books and seminars...GET THIS...on how to make money (laughs inside). I know you're in debt and I only give the base level of financial advice you could google in 5 minutes, but please buy my $500 course!!"