Recruiting Forum Football Talk XLVIII (New Coach Edition)

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amazingGRACE said:
There are a total of 7 coaches in CFB that make $6M or more per year. No way Jeff Brohm should sniff that number.
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I don’t give half a fart what they spend. Currie has driven up the market by backing himself in a corner

Get someone who can win and cut a little brushed aluminum off the renovation
 
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ATC_VOL said:
I understand there would be growing pains for Tee if he became head coach right now. Those against it though seem to agree he would/could be a viable option after some more seasoning.

So my question is which scenario is it easier for Tee to be successful in. A) he is announced tomorrow

Or B) he has 3 years of success at a smaller school, and takes over a UT team coming off of 4 straight losing seasons.
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Sooner the better. You really don't know what he will be doing in 4 years. Surround him with a great staff and recruit their brains out. If Tee doesn't work out fine... You gave him the chance and maybe UT will be held in higher esteem around the country. Right now... we're a circus. Above all else, he will repair the VFL program that Butch just **** on. Plus the guy is available, you don't extend an offer, you may burn a bridge with him.
 
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Well it's been nice guys. Doesn't feel like this is going to end well. Hope I'm wrong. I'm going to start my push away now.

Edit: I appreciate all who have suited up as players for the Vols and wish them the best.
 
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Vol24x7 said:
Sooner the better. You really don't know what he will be doing in 4 years. Surround him with a great staff and recruit their brains out. If Tee doesn't work out fine... You gave him the chance and maybe UT will be held in higher esteem around the country. Right now... we're a circus. Above all else, he will repair the VFL program that Butch just **** on. Plus the guy is available, you don't extend an offer, you may burn a bridge with him.
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I predicted this in October... we will literally be in “might as well have kept Butch” territory very soon
 
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I've posted this a couple of times, but make Tee the HC and throw out enough money to make Steele the highest paid DC. Get some really good teaching coaches, mixed with a couple of great recruiters to help Tee out and the next thing u know, this UT will have mad talent. Talent that can make up for Tee's on the job training at HC. I have no doubt they will be better player development just because of the amazing talent we are going to have and the odds have to be, that Tee will do better than Butch in player development. Imo, with the talent in Tennessee in '19 and '20 being record breaking and that's saying something because the talent was off the charts this year, that Tee has 2 top 5 or better recruiting classes in '19 and '20. That kind of talent will make a 1st time HC look a hell of a lot better when UT can flat out talent teams. The kind of talent Kevin Steele has in Auburn on that defense. I'm sold on Tee. Knoxville, the University of Tennesse, us crazy a$$ fans, all the former VFLs need this hire to show, when everybody else comes after us, we turn to one of our own and say double Gauldens.
 
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Tee is awesome, but he’s a risky hire. He’s never been a head coach, which means he’s never hired or fired other coaches, never made tough roster decisions, never had sole responsibility for on-field decisions, and never had to do all of the other things (meet with boosters, take care of the academic side of things, ensure compliance) that a head coach has to do.

Yes, it worked out for Clemson with Dabo and Tennessee with Fulmer. Do you know what both of those guys had in common? They were already on staff at schools with winning records and stable rosters. Swinney kept five coaches off of his 2008 roster in 2009– all of them had relationships with current players and recruits. He knew how the AD worked, who was in charge of S&C and academics, and everything there was to know about the roster.

That’s not what Tee would be stepping into. If you love the guy, you should want him to be set up for success— can any of us say that the current UT football situation sets him up for success?

Let Tee make mistakes at a G5 school without the scrutiny and pressure of Knoxville. Hire Brohm, Morris, or even Charlie Strong to recruit and dig us out of the current mess. Evict Currie from his corner office and send him to the Body Farm to clean forensic gear with a toothbrush.

Bring back Tee when we have more to offer him than hopes and dreams.
 
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Can we get Gordon Ramsay to come do an “AD Nightmares” show?

Would be awesome

“Come on John! Are you taking the piss? You’ve given up, haven’t you?”
 
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Le Diplomate said:
Tee is awesome, but he’s a risky hire. He’s never been a head coach, which means he’s never hired or fired other coaches, never made tough roster decisions, never had sole responsibility for on-field decisions, and never had to do all of the other things (meet with boosters, take care of the academic side of things, ensure compliance) that a head coach has to do.

Yes, it worked out for Clemson with Dabo and Tennessee with Fulmer. Do you know what both of those guys had in common? They were already on staff at schools with winning records and stable rosters. Swinney kept five coaches off of his 2008 roster in 2009– all of them had relationships with current players and recruits. He knew how the AD worked, who was in charge of S&C and academics, and everything there was to know about the roster.

That’s not what Tee would be stepping into. If you love the guy, you should want him to be set up for success— can any of us say that the current UT football situation sets him up for success?

Let Tee make mistakes at a G5 school without the scrutiny and pressure of Knoxville. Hire Brohm, Morris, or even Charlie Strong to recruit and dig us out of the current mess. Evict Currie from his corner office and send him to the Body Farm to clean forensic gear with a toothbrush.

Bring back Tee when we have more to offer him than hopes and dreams.
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This is absolutely logical if you didn't have an incompetent AD that has poisoned the waters with every coach in the USA.

We are not getting Brohm, Morris or Strong. I'm pretty sure the word among coaches is that the UT job is career suicide with the disfunction going on there.

Tee is the only one probably brave enough to take on this hot mess. I think. Heck, I'm 49% sure he'd turn us down too.
 
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BoseefusTheVol said:
What an insult and slap in the face to Tee if Kevin Steele is interviewed and offered the job before him.
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Tee needs to be hired. Steele is a hot name right now because of Auburn's D and they think they can save face with him but he's not a better hire than Tee.

They completely do not understand that this fan base is not ignorant of football. And Schiano should've taught them that we do our research. They'll bring us the wrong VFL just like they brought us the wrong former Bucs coach.
 
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BoseefusTheVol said:
This is absolutely logical if you didn't have an incompetent AD that has poisoned the waters with every coach in the USA.

We are not getting Brohm, Morris or Strong. I'm pretty sure the word among coaches is that the UT job is career suicide with the disfunction going on there.

Tee is the only one probably brave enough to take on this hot mess. I think. Heck, I'm 49% sure he'd turn us down too.
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Tee or Les Miles is about it.
 
#2,893
#2,893
The math is simple:

Peasant Uprising = Kevin Steele

It was either that or Primo Nocta.

Either way somebody is getting screwed.
 
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JohnD13 said:
Turn out the lights the party's over....
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I’m starting to agree. I’m thinking we still haven’t hit rock bottom. That will be losing 10 games a year and having 30,000 fans in the stands. I think we still have to hit that level before a true rebuild begins. By that point, football as a sport may be in irreparable decline because of head injuries, etc.
 
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Le Diplomate said:
Tee is awesome, but he’s a risky hire. He’s never been a head coach, which means he’s never hired or fired other coaches, never made tough roster decisions, never had sole responsibility for on-field decisions, and never had to do all of the other things (meet with boosters, take care of the academic side of things, ensure compliance) that a head coach has to do.

Yes, it worked out for Clemson with Dabo and Tennessee with Fulmer. Do you know what both of those guys had in common? They were already on staff at schools with winning records and stable rosters. Swinney kept five coaches off of his 2008 roster in 2009– all of them had relationships with current players and recruits. He knew how the AD worked, who was in charge of S&C and academics, and everything there was to know about the roster.

That’s not what Tee would be stepping into. If you love the guy, you should want him to be set up for success— can any of us say that the current UT football situation sets him up for success?

Let Tee make mistakes at a G5 school without the scrutiny and pressure of Knoxville. Hire Brohm, Morris, or even Charlie Strong to recruit and dig us out of the current mess. Evict Currie from his corner office and send him to the Body Farm to clean forensic gear with a toothbrush.

Bring back Tee when we have more to offer him than hopes and dreams.
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At this point, Tee is absolutely no more risky than anyone else we can legitimately convince to come and coach here. He would unite the fanbase and actually give some of us some hope. There will always be the numbnuts who will turn on anyone quickly, but I think that majority of the fanbase and just about every former player would be behind him. Having said that, I think that there is no way on God's green earth it will happen.
 
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TechnoVol said:
[twitter]https://twitter.com/TreyW_Radio/status/935702985262411776[/twitter]
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This is fantastic! Let the media start pushing this narrative about the Haslams. That’s the only way it can be seen nationally that they are the big problem on the Hill.
 
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