Recruiting Forum Off Topic Thread III

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utvols88 said:
I'm 32.

To your first point, people dont choose to have cancer while having other sicknesses to pick from. That's an illegitimate analogy. People DO choose to overspend, carelessly borrow and not consider ANY consequences to their actions. Want to better future generations? Get rid of guaranteed student loans. It'll fix itself.

You dont make the world a better place by erasing the consequences of people making bad choices. In fact, you encourage the bad behavior/choices.
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Unless you're banks. Then you can get bailed out of said consequences.
 
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MarcoVol said:
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Every single person going to college has made an MBA almost required in corporate finance and the military (for Officers). If you don't have an Master's degree, you need not apply in many areas. In the Army, your peers are getting Masters degrees in whatever they can just to say they have one. The promotion boards don't care what it is in or where it is from, just that you have it. It is asinine.
 
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2xVol said:
Hey news flash if the average college graduate has $35,000 in debt that they had to borrow to graduate then college is by definition unaffordable. And if every one commuted to a small, inexpensive in-state school like you did, guess what? Tuition at small in-state schools would go up! The argument makes no sense whatsoever. It's supply and demand. It doesn't matter how you slice it, someone has to pay the bill for the college graduates that now make up the backbone of the modern economy. And to the personal responsibility crowd, there are already many checks on personal responsibility for college students. You have to graduate within a certain time period to keep scholarships, you have to maintain a certain GPA, you have to pay for your living expenses, if your gpa isn't high enough your degree will be worthless anyways.... I could go on and on and on. Going to college is never an irresponsible decision; failing to get what you need from your college degree is. And that has nothing to do with how much debt you take on in the process. Guess what other countries do. They make university competitive and challenging in both application and education, and the people who can't hack it go to trade schools or other areas. It's not really any different than the system we have, only they don't leave the graduates with crippling debt for deciding to get a degree in an economy that demands college graduates.
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The economy doesn't demand a college degree in fact trades should always be considered, if you can't afford college go to trade school to be an electrician or welder or whatever and don't incur the costs, if you want to take the risk and go to college and take out the loans then YOU are personally responsible. PERIOD
 
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Devo182 said:
So you use anecdotal evidence, from what is the most optimal of situations (cheap school, teacher discount, commuter) and use that as basis for making a widespread generalization? There are certainly ways to make it cheaper for some individuals, but that doesn't change the overall figures.
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BUT it can be done, YOU are personally responsible for the decisions you make, It's called ACCOUNTABILITY
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:
School is for suckers. I got a job right out of high school at McDonalds and it’s been a long 24 year career but I finally made assistant customer service representative which ads another .25 to my hourly wage. Plus a robust 35% employee discount on food. And once the government raises minimum wage to $15 I’ll be living like a king.

Not trying to brag here or act like I’m better than anyone. I’m just saying maybe I’ve made better life choices.
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I did see a documentary about a 16 year who went to work for MCDonalds and by the time he was 35 he owned 3 units and was in the process of opening another. Who needs an edumacation!!!
 
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BucVol98 said:
BUT it can be done, YOU are personally responsible for the decisions you make, It's called ACCOUNTABILITY
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That wasn't the argument. It was over the affordability of college these days. It isn't a choice if someone else can have a mother who is a teacher or can commute.
 
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The reason tuition is high is because you've got whole departments trying to come up with new pronouns for people that aren't sure what they are and bathrooms for people that can't pick one of the two. You've got teachers over there that never see the classroom but have assistants teach. You've got 20 administrators for every professor. We fall further and further behind every year to other countries because we've went away from teaching kids what will get them ahead on life. Other countries laugh at our dysfunction .
 
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