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I haven't watched wrestling in years but I grew up loving it in the 80's & 90's. With that being said the new A&E WWE documentaries/series is VERY good and very compelling.

Anyone who doesn't think these guys are world class athletes and insanely tough is ignorant or just plain stupid. Great showmen. Very entertaining series of you haven't seen it.
 
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Statistics say anywhere from 30% - 70 % of American males suffer from premature boomage. Feel bad for your lady folks.
 
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BarnesIsCaliparisDaddy said:
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  • Webb’s image covers a patch of sky approximately the size of a grain of sand held at arm’s length by someone on the ground – and reveals thousands of galaxies in a tiny sliver of vast universe
No shot we’re alone. None.
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With an estimated 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets within reach of a star and just as many starless planets...then possibly multiple moons per planet...I'd say the odds are certainly in the favor of many many intelligent lifeforms.

But given the physics, vastness of the universe, and limited time species tend to exist before extinction, it seems unlikely imo various lifeforms will ever reach one another unless we crack wormholes/bending space-time. Otherwise the best we can optimistically hope for is non-biological sentient robots or nanobots reaching us. They are much better prepared for deep space travel requiring possibly millions, if not billions, of years.
 
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Devo182 said:
With an estimated 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets within reach of a star and just as many starless planets...then possibly multiple moons per planet...I'd say the odds are certainly in the favor of many many intelligent lifeforms.

But given the physics, vastness of the universe, and limited time species tend to exist before extinction, it seems unlikely imo various lifeforms will ever reach one another unless we crack wormholes/bending space-time. Otherwise the best we can optimistically hope for is non-biological sentient robots or nanobots reaching us. They are much better prepared for deep space travel requiring possibly millions, if not billions, of years.
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I've studied evolutionary biology more than the average person, and I still can't fathom how anyone could think that kind of evolution could happen without some nudging from an intelligent being. Not to get all religious, but the amount of luck needed to arrive where we are just by random chance is so astronomical (no pun intended), that if that's really how it happened with no outside intervention, I'd say the odds are better that there is NO intelligent life elsewhere, no matter how many suitable planets exist in the universe. Trillions times trillions to 1 odds that even a few of the mutations and ecological/astronomical circumstances that would be needed to go from nothing to life as we know it would happen by chance, then we expect billions of those mutations and circumstances to keep happening? It's crazy to me, can't wrap my head around those odds happening even once, let alone more than once.
 
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jave36 said:
I've studied evolutionary biology more than the average person, and I still can't fathom how anyone could think that kind of evolution could happen without some nudging from an intelligent being. Not to get all religious, but the amount of luck needed to arrive where we are just by random chance is so astronomical (no pun intended), that if that's really how it happened with no outside intervention, I'd say the odds are better that there is NO intelligent life elsewhere, no matter how many suitable planets exist in the universe. Trillions times trillions to 1 odds that even a few of the mutations and ecological/astronomical circumstances that would be needed to go from nothing to life as we know it would happen by chance, then we expect billions of those mutations and circumstances to keep happening? It's crazy to me, can't wrap my head around those odds happening even once, let alone more than once.
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Yeah...not getting religion here. Really not the point.

It's a trap, as the old fishy star captain says.
 
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Devo182 said:
With an estimated 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets within reach of a star and just as many starless planets...then possibly multiple moons per planet...I'd say the odds are certainly in the favor of many many intelligent lifeforms.

But given the physics, vastness of the universe, and limited time species tend to exist before extinction, it seems unlikely imo various lifeforms will ever reach one another unless we crack wormholes/bending space-time. Otherwise the best we can optimistically hope for is non-biological sentient robots or nanobots reaching us. They are much better prepared for deep space travel requiring possibly millions, if not billions, of years.
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We have only theories as to how life actually formed from non-life, much less making odds on how prevalent it is in the universe.
 
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jave36 said:
I've studied evolutionary biology more than the average person, and I still can't fathom how anyone could think that kind of evolution could happen without some nudging from an intelligent being. Not to get all religious, but the amount of luck needed to arrive where we are just by random chance is so astronomical (no pun intended), that if that's really how it happened with no outside intervention, I'd say the odds are better that there is NO intelligent life elsewhere, no matter how many suitable planets exist in the universe. Trillions times trillions to 1 odds that even a few of the mutations and ecological/astronomical circumstances that would be needed to go from nothing to life as we know it would happen by chance, then we expect billions of those mutations and circumstances to keep happening? It's crazy to me, can't wrap my head around those odds happening even once, let alone more than once.
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There is a book I read many years ago by the name "So you don't believe in God" by a man named Russell Victor DeLong...I am a believer anyway, but that book listed all the things that had to happen for us to exist and the odds blew my mind.
 
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Devo182 said:
He alluded to an intelligent creator. We all know where that discussion ends. Not trying to pull a @Ulysees E. McGill 2021 and get the whole thread nuked 🤣
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Understood. And I'll agree to let it go for the same reason, but one of my particular pet peeves (not that you should care, just so you understand the reason for the counterpoint) is that scientific materialism postures itself as harbingers of "truth" while making scientifically untestable philosophical claims per the supernatural, then hand-waves counterclaims about the supernatural as unworthy of discussion because they are scientifically untestable.

But alas... Back to football.

:)
 
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jave36 said:
I've studied evolutionary biology more than the average person, and I still can't fathom how anyone could think that kind of evolution could happen without some nudging from an intelligent being. Not to get all religious, but the amount of luck needed to arrive where we are just by random chance is so astronomical (no pun intended), that if that's really how it happened with no outside intervention, I'd say the odds are better that there is NO intelligent life elsewhere, no matter how many suitable planets exist in the universe. Trillions times trillions to 1 odds that even a few of the mutations and ecological/astronomical circumstances that would be needed to go from nothing to life as we know it would happen by chance, then we expect billions of those mutations and circumstances to keep happening? It's crazy to me, can't wrap my head around those odds happening even once, let alone more than once.
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Good post.
 
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