Recruiting forum off topic thread (no politics, covid, or hot button issues)

[butchna]

Not ok for men but ok for women, get the hell outta here.

If she was sorry at all and wanted forgiveness why did it take 18 years?

Send her ass to prison. No sympathy.

She IS in prison.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

She IS in prison.

Wild that she gets out in 2 years.

 

[csprig9]

It was a terrible thing, what she did, ruined a lot of lives; but, im proud of her. How many liars never admit to their lies? Go to their graves with it? Defiant to the end?

I am a forgiving person, if someone asks. I thank the good Lord for putting it on her heart, no matter how long it's been, to ask for forgiveness, rather than saying "I'm sorry". I've always believed that's how you know a person is truly humbling themselves...if they are asking for your forgiveness, or telling you they're "sorry". "I'm sorry" is still ALL about them; "please forgive me" is humbling oneself to the person/people they have wronged.

Good for her. God bless her.

I will also say this, anyone with any sense, whatsoever, knew she was lying from the moment ALL of the information came out. So many enriched themselves, got promotions, pats on the back, puffed their chests and toasted cocktails, while dividing this country like the psychopaths they are...all based on this lie. Knowing all along, it WAS a lie.

Those who wish to respond to this with some kind of wacked-out-pseudo virtue, or hate, or politics, or bullsh!t...know that I will ABSOLUTELY ignore it. I can assure you, I couldn't give a sh!t less what you have to say, if it goes against anything I said up top. God is too good, and so is life; and, I've already wasted too much of both with my own ********. If you have a problem with forgiveness/mercy, or you're totally cool with people getting rich and ruining lives based on things they know to be untrue...I promise you, I'm not the one you should be trying to talk to about such things.

I used to be forgiving person but it bit me in the ass quite a few times so I said f*** it with that ****
Honestly I don’t feel bad for it….

 

[knoxvol52]

I was in a class last year with a tall, leggy, very attractive lady named Oksana. Think she was from Sevier County. In real estate, if I recall. You noticed when she walked in.

Every Russian female I've seen over the years are easy on the eyes. Beautiful women and very family focused .

 

[butchna]

Wild that she gets out in 2 years.

For an even more egregious crime.

 

[InVOLuntary]

i'm sure. its for 5 chitlens tho.

Airbnb/vrbo. Airfare would get you. You have kids?

 

[Jackcrevol]

Airbnb/vrbo. Airfare would get you. You have kids?

you serious clark? 3 ten and under.

 

[InVOLuntary]

you serious clark? 3 ten and under.

Yeah, I left out "5". Your post made it sound like you had 5 kids.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Yeah, I left out "5". Your post made it sound like you had 5 kids.

Cousins, would be travelling with. Yes, wasnt
clear on that.

 

[rikberry31]

Ok Butch, this bad but it pales in comparison to sticking a flag into someone's O. Let's keep our priorities straight.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Lmao nah. **** her.

She ruined those 3 guys lives. Just like the UT LB who was falsely accused of rape...the damage is done the moment there is an accusation. A large % of people are never gonna believe the men involved were innocent, regardless of what happens in court. Reputation is ruined immediately and thats a stigma that will follow them and their families for life. 18 years later? Aside from all the money it cost those young men and their families just in legal fees and associated costs...I am sure it has also derailes their careers. Caused their entire families untold and undue shame and anguish.

I have a Mom, 3 sisters, a wife and a 16yo daughter that is my whole life. I am as pro- female as a guy can be. I consider it my full time privilege and responsibility to love and protect ALL of them. That said...when an allegation of rape or sexual assault is made like this it ruins the mans life immediately. If the allegation is proven to be lies, there should be serious penalties for the liar who alleged the crime. She should have to do every single day in prison that the maximum penalty requires that could have been given to the man. If thats 10 years, so be it. She should also have to make a public statement claiming responsibility for what she did and exonerate the man involved. This is a very serious matter, not like saying someone stole your car or something. Often times these allegations completely ruin the rest of a mans life.

 

[butchna]

Ok Butch, this bad but it pales in comparison to sticking a flag into someone's O. Let's keep our priorities straight.

That’s what state lawmakers were invented for.

 

[Jackcrevol]

'she deserves life in prison'?

The most litigious & incarcerated developed country in the World. Average annual cost of jailing one person is over $30K.

#1 we arent judges

#2 or a jury

#3 and have no ability to enforce

#4 statutes of limitations exist

#5 things have a tendency to work themselves out.

No doubt there need be some type of recompense. What that is, or how its carried out is beyond me.

I wager a civil suit is going to be filed. May already be filed.

 

[butchna]

'she deserves life in prison'?

The most litigious & incarcerated developed country in the World. Average annual cost of jailing one person is over $30K.

#1 we arent judges

#2 or a jury

#3 and have no ability to enforce

#4 statutes of limitations exist

#5 things have a tendency to work themselves out.

No doubt there need be some type of recompense. What that is, or how its carried out is beyond me.

I wager a civil suit is going to be filed. May already be filed.

They’re all successful and she’s in ruins after she makes parole someday. I doubt they pile on. Her owning up to lying was recompense in a way. The pious and sanctimonious we witnessed in that 30 for 30 are undoubtedly scrambling for alternate martyrs.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

They’re all successful and she’s in ruins after she makes parole someday. I doubt they pile on. Her owning up to lying was recompense in a way. The pious and sanctimonious we witnessed in that 30 for 30 are undoubtedly scrambling for alternate martyrs.

I wonder, based on her history of lying, if she's just saying it to gain favor with the parole board in a couple years?

 

[UTProf]

'she deserves life in prison'?

The most litigious & incarcerated developed country in the World. Average annual cost of jailing one person is over $30K.

#1 we arent judges

#2 or a jury

#3 and have no ability to enforce

#4 statutes of limitations exist

#5 things have a tendency to work themselves out.

No doubt there need be some type of recompense. What that is, or how its carried out is beyond me.

I wager a civil suit is going to be filed. May already be filed.

She is already in prison but tbh I don’t blame her for the mess. I 100 percent blame the prosecution. Nifong saw an opportunity and pushed that case. While most legitimate rape cases are never prosecuted and victims are discouraged from pushing things, he took a case that was so deeply flawed on the surface that even those sympathetic to victims knew something was wrong. She likely backs down from initial statements under damn near any other prosecutor. But he pushed that case and it shot to the top of the headlines there was no backing out. He is immunized but what happened is a case study in the power of the state to destroy lives via the judiciary.

 

[butchna]

I wonder, based on her history of lying, if she's just saying it to gain favor with the parole board in a couple years?

Accountability and remorse (even if it’s feigned) don’t hurt. My wife’s former stepdad murdered her mom back in 1982. What’s kept him incarcerated in California every hearing now into his 70’s is his insistence that shooting her 12 times in the back after having a buddy in the phone company track her whereabouts so he could lay in wait for her wasn’t planned and her fault. All that and him still denying he terrorized her kids and burnt most of their memories and they found him suitable for parole. We’re down to hoping Gavin Newsome has a glimmer of a soul.

 

[Orangeburst]

They’re all successful and she’s in ruins after she makes parole someday. I doubt they pile on. Her owning up to lying was recompense in a way. The pious and sanctimonious we witnessed in that 30 for 30 are undoubtedly scrambling for alternate martyrs.

When are the media and pols gonna express remorse with their lies and race baiting!

 

[butchna]

When are the media and pols gonna express remorse with their lies and race baiting!

They’ve deluded themselves into thinking everyone else is deluded.

 

[LaagerVol]

Okay I will be your hucklebarrier, imagine being the number one team at your sport at the division one level and being told you can no longer play because somebody manipulated the system! Go on with your liberal ideals you should’ve learned from this last election!!!

Add it to the list

I don’t think him calling out the media and “powers that be” for running with the false claims as if they were true (which is the way I took his comments) and bringing unfounded charges is liberal ideology

Also, obviously what she did was very wrong, but when people truly change their lives and realize their sin/wrongdoing, they deserve a second chance. She is already paying the price for things she has done in the past.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Cousins, would be travelling with. Yes, wasnt
clear on that.

Yeah, if you have to pay for other's children, that might be tough to pull off. Like i said, air travel would be the kicker.

 

[rikberry31]

She is already in prison but tbh I don’t blame her for the mess. I 100 percent blame the prosecution. Nifong saw an opportunity and pushed that case. While most legitimate rape cases are never prosecuted and victims are discouraged from pushing things, he took a case that was so deeply flawed on the surface that even those sympathetic to victims knew something was wrong. She likely backs down from initial statements under damn near any other prosecutor. But he pushed that case and it shot to the top of the headlines there was no backing out. He is immunized but what happened is a case study in the power of the state to destroy lives via the judiciary.

This is it. The real criminals are the politicians. Then and now. Hell may have no fury like a woman scorned but if recent history has shown us anything, the tyranny of the state is her twin sister.

 

[Butch Jones]

How did they throw that lady in jail for saying the 3 words to the healthcare company? I remember in business law learning that saying "I am going to punch you in the face" over the phone to someone is not assault because it's not an immediate threat, yet this lady is in jail for saying something over the phone to the healthcare company.

Edit: This link is what I was referring to. I couldn't remember the specific words. I would not have thought they could throw you in jail for this.

US woman arrested for allegedly threatening health firm: ‘Delay, deny, depose’

Briana Boston accused of using same words written on ammunition at scene of killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO

www.theguardian.com

 

[SugarCC]

Add it to the list

I don’t think him calling out the media and “powers that be” for running with the false claims as if they were true (which is the way I took his comments) and bringing unfounded charges is liberal ideology

Also, obviously what she did was very wrong, but when people truly change their lives and realize their sin/wrongdoing, they deserve a second chance. She is already paying the price for things she has done in the past.

This.

I've been accused of being a lot of things in my life...being a liberal has NEVER been one of them.

Also, "huckleberrier"?? What, is he carrying my casket?

 

[PKT_VOL]

She ruined those 3 guys lives. Just like the UT LB who was falsely accused of rape...the damage is done the moment there is an accusation. A large % of people are never gonna believe the men involved were innocent, regardless of what happens in court. Reputation is ruined immediately and thats a stigma that will follow them and their families for life. 18 years later? Aside from all the money it cost those young men and their families just in legal fees and associated costs...I am sure it has also derailes their careers. Caused their entire families untold and undue shame and anguish.

I have a Mom, 3 sisters, a wife and a 16yo daughter that is my whole life. I am as pro- female as a guy can be. I consider it my full time privilege and responsibility to love and protect ALL of them. That said...when an allegation of rape or sexual assault is made like this it ruins the mans life immediately. If the allegation is proven to be lies, there should be serious penalties for the liar who alleged the crime. She should have to do every single day in prison that the maximum penalty requires that could have been given to the man. If thats 10 years, so be it. She should also have to make a public statement claiming responsibility for what she did and exonerate the man involved. This is a very serious matter, not like saying someone stole your car or something. Often times these allegations completely ruin the rest of a mans life.

The bold is precisely the argument not to prosecute the false accusers. The benefits of fully restoring the falsely accused's name, reputation, career, or possibly releasing them from prison outweighs the desire for retribution.