Recruiting Randy Moss

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crusse10 said:
Is there any shred of truth to the rumors about TO and Tennessee?
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I had several classes with TO at UTC...core classes. He did think he was going to be a Vol...it's true. I have never been around anyone that made more fun of people. Quite entertaining until it was directed at you...lol
 
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Playdo said:
I don't normally do this sort of thing, but a good friend of mine directed this film. It's pretty great. You should watch it.
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Tell him 2 thumbs up. Could have done a part 2 on his NFL career imo. I could watch his highlights all day.
 
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Vol_sanity said:
I had several classes with TO at UTC...core classes. He did think he was going to be a Vol...it's true. I have never been around anyone that made more fun of people. Quite entertaining until it was directed at you...lol
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TO strikes me as the guy who would tell as ridiculous of a story as possible to get attention. He may have told the story, but I still don't believe it.

"Where's the orange coach?" :blink:
 
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utvols74 said:
I remember watching the Heisman tragedy the night Peyton got screwed. Moss was one of the 4 guys who received the most votes. He sat up there like a "gangsta-rapper" with all black on, chains, etc. The other guys in suits/ties. I didn't think much of him, but when they showed his video.......I thought "Good Lord...who is this guy?" He looked like a deer running down the field and no one could keep up. Cuts on a dime. I thought he looked unstoppable with the ball in his hands. Too bad his parents didn't do a better job.
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What better job? He is from a small country town, got in a fight, smoked some weed and made millions as one of the best receiver's to ever play the game. I guess he could be digging coal right now.
 
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utvols74 said:
Too bad his parents didn't do a better job.
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Very ignorant. His mom did the best she could, and he'd tell you that. He was shaped by his environment and his own poor choices. He'd tell you that too, and basically did in that documentary.
 
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TNBV said:
What better job? He is from a small country town, got in a fight, smoked some weed and made millions as one of the best receiver's to ever play the game. I guess he could be digging coal right now.
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The fact that I have to spell this out for you is telling. Could have done a better job of teaching him character traits. Considering his ego/behavior/tantrums etc. in high school, college ("just how many teams did he sign/play for again...?") and the pros (don't forget when he was at Minnesota, he was having to be coached daily by Chris Carter about attitude, behavior, etc.) Oh and lets not forget about his substance use either.

Yeah, his parents could have done a better job. It appears you're looking up at coal miners bubba.
 
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Vol_sanity said:
I had several classes with TO at UTC...core classes. He did think he was going to be a Vol...it's true. I have never been around anyone that made more fun of people. Quite entertaining until it was directed at you...lol
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That he wanted UT but couldn't make it happen, or that he mailed in his NLI to Chattanooga and never realized he f'd up?
 
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cncchris33 said:
Very ignorant. His mom did the best she could, and he'd tell you that. He was shaped by his environment and his own poor choices. He'd tell you that too, and basically did in that documentary.
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Not ignorant. There are plenty of kids who come from much worse "environments" that don't stain and tarnish their reps all the while given the incredible opportunities he was given.

You may disagree and that is your right. But to call someone "ignorant" is baseless.

Good parenting is becoming a lost art in America.
 
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utvols74 said:
Not ignorant. There are plenty of kids who come from much worse "environments" that don't stain and tarnish their reps all the while given the incredible opportunities he was given.

You may disagree and that is your right. But to call someone "ignorant" is baseless.

Good parenting is becoming a lost art in America.
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Parents are not always responsible for the decisions of their children. Taking responsibility is the lost art in America. It's not always a parent's fault for their children's indiscretions. My children are raised in a very stable home with parents who love them unconditionally and love each other. They are/have been taught right from wrong from the moment they could discern the difference between the two.

When my children make mistakes in their teens and beyond, I'll be damned if it was because I failed them as a parent. They know right from wrong, and if they make bad decisions in their life as a result of bad influences or bad environments, the onus falls on them, not my wife or I. You can't hold their hands through every storm. They have to learn at some point how to make decisions, and how to learn from the mistakes associated with poor decisions, and there is nothing more I can do as a parent to guide them through.

Randy Moss said his mother was very strict and raised him in a Godly home. With no mention of his father, I'll assume she did it alone too, along with Randy's brother and sister. Randy is responsible for his choices, not his mother. I have no doubt she taught him right from wrong. He didn't come from a deadbeat home life, save for perhaps and absent father.

We are raising a generation that wants to blame someone/everyone else for their problems, and the notion that bad parenting is the root of all bad decisions is silly. Randy Moss doesn't blame his mother for his bad choices, so why do you?
 
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I believe TN finished 2nd originally out of HS when he signed with Notre Dame.

He was denied admission there due to the off-field incident.

Then he contacted TN about going there and they weren't interested.

After that he contacted FSU and they ended up taking him.

Then of course ended up at Marshall after having issues at FSU.

That is how I remember it.
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
TO strikes me as the guy who would tell as ridiculous of a story as possible to get attention. He may have told the story, but I still don't believe it.

"Where's the orange coach?" :blink:
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He could be making it up but when he played up here for the Bengals a few years ago he did say in a local interview that he thought he was signing with Tennessee out of high school but it was actually UTC.
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
I believe TN finished 2nd originally out of HS when he signed with Notre Dame.

He was denied admission there due to the off-field incident.

Then he contacted TN about going there and they weren't interested.

After that he contacted FSU and they ended up taking him.

Then of course ended up at Marshall after having issues at FSU.

That is how I remember it.
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He didn't have any issues while at FSU. His issue that forced his dismissal there took place back home in WV the summer following his RS freshman year at FSU. He tested positive for marijuana while performing the final 27 days of his original sentence in a work-release program. This was a violation of his parole, and he was sentenced to 60 more days in jail, of which he only served a portion due to credit for time served. FSU didn't welcome him back after that summer, and he landed at Marshall.
 
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utvols74 said:
Not ignorant. There are plenty of kids who come from much worse "environments" that don't stain and tarnish their reps all the while given the incredible opportunities he was given.

You may disagree and that is your right. But to call someone "ignorant" is baseless.

Good parenting is becoming a lost art in America.
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So you're saying that no one raised by good parents makes bad decisions? I know a number of people that fly in the face of that theory.
 
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TO is pretty funny. I met him at an airport once. Didn't know the UT story at the time, so I didn't ask. He grew up not knowing his father, meanwhile the guy was living across the street.
 
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