Remember when we were ranked for a week?

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Volunteer forever said:
I remember a time when we had a ranking number by our name weekly!!!!! Butch will get us back soon!
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GO VOLS..
GO BIG ORANGE ... :rock:
 
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thebjd said:
Those teams would destroy your current squad that went 11-1 last year.
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i understand. that's not the point.

the point is do you see a school going 47-5 in league play over a 6 year period in the league as it currently stands?

do you see anybody winning 25 straight sec games in the current league? keep in mind when florida was doing that, they played lsu and auburn from the west every year and usually saw alabama in the sec title game. in other words, the league schedule was the hardest it could possibly be.

no, because it's not as weak as the 90's where it was possible.

florida was routinely beating "power teams" in the league by 30 or more. in 96, they beat auburn, georgia, and lsu by 40
 
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Ashevillevol said:
I feel sorry for you younger guys who can only remember from the2000"s and on because being ranked for 1 week at 23, 24, 25 really just sucks hard.
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Very true. I remember when being out of the top 10 was a not so good season. Hopefully those times are coming back.
 
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Boca Vol said:
I agree, and that was my main point. The SEC East was better than the West and UT/ UF were above the other teams.

Had UT been able to beat UF from '93-'96, don't you think UT's trophy case would have 4 more SEC trophies in it? Maybe additional hardware?
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No doubt but I see it very similar to now only it is Alabama and everyone else instead of UT and UF then everyone else. The conference was very competitive in West side then but not as good as the top of the East. UGA had good teams.
 
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Boca Vol said:
I agree, and that was my main point. The SEC East was better than the West and UT/ UF were above the other teams.

Had UT been able to beat UF from '93-'96, don't you think UT's trophy case would have 4 more SEC trophies in it? Maybe additional hardware?
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Maybe. That's still got a "how would 4 more games have played out" part though which makes it tricky...especially since all four would have been rematch games (UT had tied Bama in 93; had lost to Bama 17-13 in 94 and would be 8-3 going into the game against a 10-1 team; had beaten Arkansas 49-31 in 95 but would be a 1-loss team against an 8-3 Arkansas team; had beaten Bama badly in 96 but would a 1-loss team against a 2-loss team) and those kinds of games are always so variable...

I will say no to a NC in 95 though I that's being implied at all, but i'll give you that year's SEC championship.

The rest would be a bit more variable and harder to call (though giving us it in 94 might be a harder call...)

To add to that we'd be out of any NC talk in 94. It could be debatable in 96 but UT likely would have needed to have had that same matchup UF got (they got matched up against #1 FSU) plus how well they would or wouldn't have matched up with them (granted that was also the year of the Memphis loss, so there may have been another team ranked above us; that's another unknown there)



But East/West comparison regarding the time periods I agree; just not that UT would easily/automatically have had 4 more SEC championships.
 
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What was Tennessee rated in the preseason rankings going into the 1998 season? Was it 13? I think Tennessee was picked 3rd in the SEC East that season.
 
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99gator said:
i understand. that's not the point.

the point is do you see a school going 47-5 in league play over a 6 year period in the league as it currently stands?

do you see anybody winning 25 straight sec games in the current league? keep in mind when florida was doing that, they played lsu and auburn from the west every year and usually saw alabama in the sec title game. in other words, the league schedule was the hardest it could possibly be.

no, because it's not as weak as the 90's where it was possible.

florida was routinely beating "power teams" in the league by 30 or more. in 96, they beat auburn, georgia, and lsu by 40
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If that team were playing now it would be UF and Bama, then the rest of the league. UF would still beat most teams by 40 points. The only difference in your schedule would be LSU is improved and UT is down. The defense was great and then add a Heisman QB, Fred Taylor and the receivers. I would take my chances.
 
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thebjd said:
If that team were playing now it would be UF and Bama, then the rest of the league and would still beat most teams by 40 points. The only difference in your schedule would be LSU is improved and UT is down.
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you don't think south carolina and georgia are significantly better than in the 90's?

it's not close.

and lsu isn't merely improved. they've been a national title contender over a 10 year period of time.

a lot different than the curley hallman era
 
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WoodstockVol said:
What was Tennessee rated in the preseason rankings going into the 1998 season? Was it 13? I think Tennessee was picked 3rd in the SEC East that season.
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...it was second in the East behind Florida. Who in the world else would they have been behind in that division in the 90s?

They also started the year at 10th in the AP that season; 10th in the coaches as well
 
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TrueOrange said:
...it was second in the East behind Florida. Who in the world else would they have been behind in that division in the 90s?

They also started the year at 10th in the AP that season; it'll take a sec to find the coaches poll
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I think Georgia got a big push in 1998(Georgia was 10-2 in 1997). CBS and ESPN said UGA would walk all over Tennessee
 
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WoodstockVol said:
I think Georgia got a big push in 1998(Georgia was 10-2 in 1997). CBS and ESPN said UGA would walk all over Tennessee
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UT also had just beaten them 38-13 the previous season, for their 6th straight victory over them, and ended that season winning the conference, reaching a #2 ranking, playing in the Orange Bowl, and finishing at #7.

I still don't see why UGA, in preseason predictions, would have been picked finishing ahead just based on one good/better year and Peyton leaving (the team was expected to just have a, more or less, slight fall off from losing Manning, Nash, and Little)

(Plus I already checked and UT was picked to finish 2nd behind UF that season; granted it was Media Days though...each station would have had their own respective rankings, so one's might have varied from another's)


And UT was ranked #10 preseason in the coaches poll as well in 98
 
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TrueOrange said:
UT also had just beaten them 38-13 the previous season, for their 6th straight victory over them, and ended that season winning the conference, reaching a #2 ranking, playing in the Orange Bowl, and finishing at #7.

I still don't see here why UGA, in preseason predictions, was going to be picked finishing ahead just based off of one good year and Peyton leaving (the team was expected to just have a, more or less, slight fall off from losing Manning, Nash, and Little)

(Besides I already checked and UT was picked to finish 2nd behind UF that season)


And UT was ranked #10 preseason in the coaches poll as well in 98
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Thanks for the info!:thumbsup::salute:
 
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TrueOrange said:
UT also had just beaten them 38-13 the previous season, for their 6th straight victory over them, and ended that season winning the conference, reaching a #2 ranking, playing in the Orange Bowl, and finishing at #7.

I still don't see why UGA, in preseason predictions, would have been picked finishing ahead just based on one good/better year and Peyton leaving (the team was expected to just have a, more or less, slight fall off from losing Manning, Nash, and Little)

(Plus I already checked and UT was picked to finish 2nd behind UF that season; granted it was Media Days though...each station would have had their own respective rankings, so one's might have varied from another's)


And UT was ranked #10 preseason in the coaches poll as well in 98
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UT had 8 players drafted in the '98 NFL draft to include 3 first rounders (you missed Fair who was drafted higher than Nash in the 1st).

That's a pretty big drop-off.
 
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DC Vol said:
UT had 8 players drafted in the '98 NFL draft to include 3 first rounders (you missed Fair who was drafted higher than Nash in the 1st).

That's a pretty big drop-off.
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Some predictions I remember from then had Tennessee going 8-3 in 1998. Thank goodness Tennessee did much better than that!
 
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DC Vol said:
UT had 8 players drafted in the '98 NFL draft to include 3 first rounders (you missed Fair who was drafted higher than Nash in the 1st).

That's a pretty big drop-off.
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Fair point. (Pun not intended)

However, (and I'm not trying to be angry or argumentative) all I know is the main polls each picked UT at 10 at the start of the season, with UF the only SEC team ahead of them, and the media days picked UT to finish 2nd behind Florida.

They all must have thought the team was, I dunno at worst, reloading (rather than a large drop off like rebuilding) if that's as far down as they started them
 
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WoodstockVol said:
Some predictions I remember from then had Tennessee going 8-3 in 1998. Thank goodness Tennessee did much better than that!
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I'm curious what you were getting those from.


Btw I think I might have figured out where the ESPN or CBS or wherever you got people talking about UGA beating UT was coming from.

The UGA game came the week after Jamal Lewis's injury in the Auburn game, which (that game) the team kind of struggled on offense after he left the game (the team scored all 17 points in the first quarter and won 17-9)
 
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Ashevillevol said:
I feel sorry for you younger guys who can only remember from the2000"s and on because being ranked for 1 week at 23, 24, 25 really just sucks hard.
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Can't agree with you any more. I'm an older VFL who remembers the Dickey era and Johnny Majors pounding his fist and promising better times.

The two best thing about getting older in my opinion:

1) The range of ages of women that you find attractive
I a'm about at 18 to 80 anymore.

2) The sweet fragrance of memories of Tennessee football in the good years.
 
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#48
#48
I envy you people that saw UT be a top 10 team every week...the best UT team I've ever watched was the 2007 team....
 
#49
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Obsessedvol said:
I envy you people that saw UT be a top 10 team every week...the best UT team I've ever watched was the 2007 team....
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That saw UF and Bama hang 100 on the Vols! OUCH.

If you haven't already, go check out some you tube videos of classic Vol games. It will make you smile.
 
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