Retiring Johnny Majors Number

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Proposed Criteria for Modern Retirement of Tennessee Football Numbers Tennessee’s storied football tradition has been built from great team performances, outstanding individual effort, inspired coaching and leadership and tremendous fan support. Six national championships, 12 SEC championships, and one of the most famed and largest of all football stadiums mark the true essence of Volunteer football. Individually, 68 players have earned All-America honors, seven have been named SEC player of the year, and 20 have earned lifetime distinction as inductees into the College Football Hall of Fame, while hundreds more have gone onto outstanding professional careers, further spreading the gospel of Tennessee Football. With so many wonderful and memorable great players, the University has chosen to this point to reserve the ultimate honor of jersey number retirement for four players killed in action in World War II. With close examination of the history and accomplishment of the men who have worn the Orange for 100 years, the following criteria have been established to allow for the fitting recognition of a few UT men, whose legendary standing in the history of the game of football, while rooted in their accomplishments on the Hill, truly can be said to have transcended both the borders of Tennessee and the boundary lines of Shield-Watkins field to unparallel recognition throughout the United States of America. Be it then, that only by unanimous recommendation of the Committee identified below, and coupled with demonstrated achievements as listed, and finally, ratified by a unanimous vote of the Athletics Board of the University of Tennessee, shall football jersey numbers worn by qualifying Volunteer football players be permanently retired and displayed with the honor befitting their representation of the accomplishments of all who have come before and since. 1. The Committee shall consist of the Director of Men’s Athletics, the President of The University of Tennessee, the Chairman of the Athletics Committee of the Board of Trustees, and the President of the UT Letterman’s Association (T-Club). 2. Candidates may be nominated and brought before the Committee. The Committee shall meet to determine qualifications of candidates and determine whether or not to formally recommend the candidate for approval by the Athletics Board. Such recommendation may only be by unanimous Committee vote. 3. Candidates must be recognized as good citizens who have brought distinction to the University and themselves through their accomplishments on and off the football field, both in the days on the Hill and in their post-UT careers. 4. A minimum of five years must pass between the conclusion of a candidate’s UT football career and consideration for this honor. 5. Candidates must not have achieved greater fame or identity from another institution or University. 6. A candidate must have achieved THREE of the following five collegiate honors: a. Induction into the National Football Foundation and College Hall of Fame. b. Southeastern Conference (SEC) Player of the Year. c. Consensus All-America. d. Heisman Trophy winner. e. Have won one of the following general athletic/academic or non-position specific awards: Sullivan Award, SEC Athlete of the Year (all sports) or Draddy Award.
7. Recognizing the tremendous collective impact of Tennessee Volunteers in professional football, candidates must have also achieved THREE of the following four professional distinctions: a. Induction into the NFL Hall of Fame. b. NFL offensive or defensive MVP. c. Achieved Pro Bowl status in 5 seasons. d. Holder of a major career or season statistical record (yards, sacks, tackles, touchdowns scored or thrown). 8. Candidates who have been enshrined in both the College Football Hall of Fame and the NFL Hall of Fame will receive strong consideration for number retirement. 9. Candidates must meet or exceed these defined criteria to be considered for recommendation and approval for number retirement. 10. For modification of these criteria for number retirement, the suggested modification must be unanimously approved by the committee and forwarded to the Athletics Board at its Fall meeting. Unanimous vote of the Athletics Board members must ratify said modification. 11. The department of athletics shall conduct the number retirement ceremony with all due pomp and circumstance, preferably in conjunction with a home football game in Neyland Stadium. 12. Retired numbers could be reactivated with the permission of the athlete or his surviving family member’s approval. These criteria and regulations pertaining to the retirement of football numbers for the University of Tennessee Volunteers have been approved by the Athletics Board and the President and Chancellor of the University this 12th day of November, 2005. _____________________ President, The University of Tennessee _____________________ Chancellor, The University of Tennessee, Knoxville _____________________ Chairperson, UTK Athletics Board _____________________ Chairman, Athletics Committee of the Board of Trustees _____________________ Director of Men’s Athletics _____________________ President, Lettermen’s Club
 
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I never seem to have a problem getting excited a bout a football game in Neyland stadium...I am already getting fired up and its only Wednesday...or Thursday technically!
 
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It appears they only retire numbers from players with great college AND NFL careers, or die in war. People who are probably going to be enshrined in the NFL and College Hall of Fame.

So if that is the standard, that leaves Majors out. So the next future pro football hall of famer will get his number retired next IMO.
 
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#91 will be the last for many, many years....If, #45 is ever to be retired under the CJM name, lets all pray he is unable to attend the ceremony due to prior commitments.
His honor, with the mic, at mid-field, is horribly spooky.
 
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Originally posted by KYVolFan@Nov 16, 2005 6:00 PM
Many of you seem to hate Coaches Battle, Dickie, Majors, Fulmer, Wyatt, Thomas, and possibly even Neyland.  I am sick and tired of ne'er do wells running down everyone who has ever been associated with our Vols.  Why in God's great name do some of you call yourself Vol Fans. With friends like some of you, our football program doesn't need any enemies.  :thefinger:  :thefinger:  :thefinger:  :thefinger:
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VOLS Luv 'Em Or Leave 'Em. The cry of the Ignorant, the Imbecilic and the Inane.

Who l do you think you are dictating what a Volunteer fan should or should not be? Take your middlle finger, place your hand palm up on the ground, sit and rotate. :moon2:
 
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Originally posted by smokedog#3@Nov 16, 2005 6:07 PM
i think they should retire his jersey.  i don't know if it will happen though he is still recovering from the knife in the back from fulmer.  he deserves it,  he is one of the tennessee greats.
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The problem with Johnny is he won't shut up long enough to let people objectively review his UT career. Sure, he absolutely should have his jersey retired but he can't run around for another decade spouting crap about UT like we are his long lost jilted lover.

This is and always will be the legacy of Majors, one serious character flaw after another, a drunk, a pathetic Forgotten Child, a whiner. All the good he did is fatally marred by these flaws. :ill_h4h:

Prediction: Retired jersey after he dies. :ermm:
 
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One of my colleagues used to play for Coach Majors.JM still calls my friend and checks on him. I know he is bitter and pops off too much but I still feel sorry for him at Pitt. He is the"Assistant to the Assistant to the Assistant to the.".............basically a token job.

I say retire his jersey, based on what he did on the field when he played. I think not retiring it would parallel keeping Pete Rose out of the Hall of Fame. Rose deserves to be in the Hall for what he did as a player. Keeping him out for something that happened after his playing days were over is horse sh--. That's another reason why I don't care for ML baseball anymore. Nobody can honestly deny that Pete Rose was one of the five greatest players in the modern era.
Majors was a great football player in his time and if UT jerseys are to be retired, he certainly deserves the honor. I say forget about his coaching years. By the way, didn't he coach Pitt to a National Championship?
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I disagree totally with the Pete Rose thing. Coach Majors has turned into a sour old man but that is not against the rules of NCAA football or the team or University. It is just a bad family squabble.

What Rose did is break a known rule with a known penalty. Then he lied about it for years. Then to make money on his book he finally admitted to it.

I am very disappointed with Coach Majors but what Pete Rose did was very different and much, much worse. That is like saying Jay walking is the same as Armed Robbery.

I hope one day we patch it up with CJM and we do retire is Jersey. But I hope they never let Rose in the HOF.
 
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Originally posted by VolBeef88@Nov 16, 2005 5:20 PM
Hold on just a minute there cowboy. I agree with just about everything you stated. But I do have a problem with the way he has handled himself since leaving UT.
As far as the whiskey comment. That is what the man drinks.
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:hi: OK there "GO VOLS, BEAT THE COMMODE DOORS&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;</span>

Pound the Rock and Run to Victory :run: :td:
 
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Originally posted by KYVolFan@Nov 17, 2005 9:17 AM
:hi: OK there "GO VOLS, BEAT THE COMMODE DOORS&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;</span>

Pound the Rock and Run to Victory :run:  :td:
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This is funny. Have you read any other of my posts? Others on here think I am the biggest homer on the board. LOL this is funny.
I appreciate and join you in a positive attitude about my beloved vols. I am very proud (disapointed in how the season turned out so far) of my team. I point was that CJM drank whiskey not beer.
Glad to have another love&#39;m no matter what on here with me.
 
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Originally posted by wilburnVol@Nov 17, 2005 9:38 AM
What a tool you are. As in dumb as a box of hammers.

VOLS Luv &#39;Em Or Leave &#39;Em. The cry of the Ignorant, the Imbecilic and the Inane.

Who the hell do you think you are dictating what a Volunteer fan should or should not be? Take your middlle finger, place your hand palm up on the ground, sit and rotate.  :moon2:
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Sir or madam, you are too Kind and gentile. Can it be that your slogan is "Vols Hate&#39;em or Hate&#39;em"
 
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Originally posted by KYVolFan@Nov 17, 2005 11:47 AM
:hi: OK there "<span style=\'font-family:Impact\'>Pecos Bill</span></span>" reign in your whirlwind. About the only thing I haven&#39;t heard or seen criticized is the color of the grass on <span style=\'color:green\'>Shields-Watkins Field,
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It&#39;s a fakey green color.

There you go , made your day. :post-20645-1119625378:
 
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Originally posted by KYVolFan@Nov 17, 2005 11:54 AM
Sir or madam, you are too Kind and gentile.  Can it be that your slogan is "Vols Hate&#39;em or Hate&#39;em"
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My slogan is to "Root Out Ignorance Wherever It is Found" but I give you this even a blind Vol can root up an acorn. :wassup:
 
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Originally posted by KYVolFan@Nov 17, 2005 11:54 AM
Sir or madam, you are too Kind and gentile. 
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I&#39;m Jewsih, st00pid. :eek:lol: :eek:lol: :eek:lol: :eek:lol: :eek:lol:
 
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Originally posted by wilburnVol@Nov 17, 2005 11:28 AM
I&#39;m Jewsih, st00pid.  :eek:lol:  :eek:lol:  :eek:lol:  :eek:lol:  :eek:lol:
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Did any of your mother&#39;s children live?
 
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Originally posted by VolBeef88@Nov 17, 2005 9:12 AM

I hope one day we patch it up with CJM and we do retire is Jersey. But I hope they never let Rose in the HOF.
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So you disagree. Then should Rose&#39;s records as a player be thrown out, too? My point is..."for what he did as a player."
Rose&#39;s mistakes AFTER his playing career ended should not
keep him out, for all he accomplished.

I suspect you&#39;re probably somebody who never liked Pete in the first place and probably hated the Reds or the Phillies. (Most likely a Dodger fan). Well, I never cared for him either and enjoyed it when he would fail on the field. But dammit, we gotta face it, the man was one of the greatest ever and it&#39;s a grave injustice to penalize a great career AS A PLAYER&#33; The Baseball Hall of Fame without him in it is a hypocritcal joke. That&#39;s my opinion and I value it highly, regardless of what others think.

RE: Paul Hornung, Alex Karras, Ty Cobb
 
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Originally posted by KYVolFan@Nov 17, 2005 2:09 PM
Did any of your mother&#39;s children live?
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Well, that was a prety idiotic retort. :stinker2:
 
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Originally posted by wncvolfan@Nov 17, 2005 12:24 PM
So you disagree.  Then should Rose&#39;s records as a player be thrown out, too?  My point is..."for what he did as a player." 
Rose&#39;s mistakes AFTER his playing career ended should not
keep him out, for all he accomplished.

I suspect you&#39;re probably somebody who never liked Pete in the first place and probably hated the Reds or the Phillies. (Most likely a Dodger fan).  Well, I never cared for him either and enjoyed it when he would fail on the field.  But dammit, we gotta face it, the man was one of the greatest ever and it&#39;s a grave injustice to penalize a great career AS A PLAYER&#33;  The Baseball Hall of Fame without him in it is a hypocritcal joke. That&#39;s my opinion and I value it highly, regardless of what others think.

RE:  Paul Hornung, Alex Karras, Ty Cobb
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As a player/manager he gambled. He did so WITH THE KOWLEDGE OF THE CONCEQUENCES of being caught. When you know the rules and the penalties but still choose to break them anyway then you should pay the price.
BTW I am no Dodger fan and I do think he was one hell of a ball player. I just think people should be held responsible for their actions.
 
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Originally posted by OrangeUAVol?@Nov 16, 2005 6:43 PM
Fulmer hasn&#39;t been stabbed in the back either. 

Maybe they should retire his jersey with a little red blood stain on the back.
:nener:
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I think Johnny actually stabbed himself.

Regardless, his actions as a football player warrant the retirement of his jersey. I still hold high regard for his never-say-quit attitude. However, his love of self should not be greater than his love of the Big Orange. He should keep his mouth shut in public.

And Johnny&#39;s treatment of another Vol legend, George Cafego, was 100 times worse than the "suspected" treatment of Majors by Fulmer.
 
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Originally posted by VolBeef88@Nov 17, 2005 1:07 PM
As a player/manager he gambled. He did so WITH THE KOWLEDGE OF THE CONCEQUENCES of being caught. When you know the rules and the penalties but still choose to  break them anyway then you should pay the price.
BTW I am no Dodger fan and I do think he was one hell of a ball player. I just think people should be held responsible for their actions.
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First, it&#39;s good to know your not a Dodger fan. At least on that we agree. We&#39;ll probably never agree on the other point. You think he should be bannned from ever being inducted. I disagree because of what he did on the field and the records he holds. Anyhow, thanks for your input and for your responses. It&#39;s these differences that make the world interesting.
Go Vols, get a bowl and kick the sh-- out of somebody. Vindicate&#33;
Also my apologies to the originator of this thread for digressing. It&#39;s a great thread. Seems to be many diverse opinions on Majors. Am enjoying reading all the posts. Keep &#39;em coming.
 
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Originally posted by allvol@Nov 17, 2005 4:53 PM
I think Johnny actually stabbed himself.

Regardless, his actions as a football player warrant the retirement of his jersey.  I still hold high regard for his never-say-quit attitude.  However, his love of self should not be greater than his love of the Big Orange.  He should keep his mouth shut in public.

And Johnny&#39;s treatment of another Vol legend, George Cafego, was 100 times worse than the "suspected" treatment of Majors by Fulmer.
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It&#39;s not for me to say whether he was stabbed in the back or not. My point was just that HE feels he was, so he will always have an issue with Fulmer and the administration at the time.

As for his negative comments, I won&#39;t pretend to have read or heard every statement he&#39;s made since leaving, but it doesn&#39;t seem like he bad mouths the Vols per say, just Fulmer and past administration. But the only reason we continue to hear any negative remarks from him, is because the media continues to ask. Their job is to pose questions in a way they know will draw a response they can make something of.

He&#39;s on the Legend&#39;s DVD with lots of fond memories. I&#39;m glad we have Fulmer, but I think Johnny got a bad rap.

Just my
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