Revised outlook for Vol football: It could happen!

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JohnWardForever said:
westwords--------- Urban Meyer: “I’ve got inside information … I have an NFL guy that scouts around and helps me with some stuff, and he says Tennessee looks like Tennessee of old.”View attachment 682200
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Not quite yet, but we're getting there. Got to stock up on upper tier OL-men, have an annual treasure trove of DL-men, and DBs, maintain reliable list of interchangeable RBs. Keep that weight room ringing and clanging, producing hard hitting guys no one really wants to play against. We coming. We coming.
 
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Yes, quite yet. We're already there.

And one of the fun things about all this is, we have a whole generation of young Vols fans, say ages 5 to 24 or so, who have never experienced Tennessee Of Old.* They don't realize, yet, what this is gonna be like.

Go Vols!


* The Tennessee that stretches all the way from J.A. Pierce and Huburt Fisher's 6-2 seasons in 1899 and 1902, through George Levene's 7-2 in 1907 and 1908, through Zora Clevenger's 9-0 in 1914, through Bender and Banks and into the glorious Neyland decades of the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, and early 1950s (with help from John Barnhill during World War II), then onto Daryl Doug Dickey (thanks, LT), and ending up with Johnny Majors and Philip Fulmer. Ah, the Tennessee of old. And the Tennessee of today.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Yes, quite yet. We're already there.

And one of the fun things about all this is, we have a whole generation of young Vols fans, say ages 5 to 24 or so, who have never experienced Tennessee Of Old.* They don't realize, yet, what this is gonna be like.

Go Vols!


* The Tennessee that stretches all the way from J.A. Pierce and Huburt Fisher's 6-2 seasons in 1899 and 1902, through George Levene's 7-2 in 1907 and 1908, through Zora Clevenger's 9-0 in 1914, through Bender and Banks and into the glorious Neyland decades of the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, and early 1950s (with help from John Barnhill during World War II), then onto Daryl Dickey, and ending up with Johnny Majors and Philip Fulmer. Ah, the Tennessee of old. And the Tennessee of today.
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I think you mean Daryl’s father Doug Dickey.
 
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There are some very good teams out there, so am not ready to listen to the Urban Myths. Watched the VA Tech/Miami game and parts of the GA/BAMA game this weekend and not for a second do I think we could dominate either of those 4 teams. Win yes, but dominate? No, not yet.

Sorry Urb, not falling for your bait.
 
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Volador said:
There are some very good teams out there, so am not ready to listen to the Urban Myths. Watched the VA Tech/Miami game and parts of the GA/BAMA game this weekend and not for a second do I think we could dominate either of those 4 teams. Win yes, but dominate? No, not yet.

Sorry Urb, not falling for your bait.
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The Virginia Tech who lost to Vandy?
 
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therealitytheory said:
Two huge mobile-QB threats coming up, beginning this week. Maybe three depending on who FL chooses. We've shut down pocket qbs but that 4th quarter at OK causes some concern.
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Don't let 4th Qtr OK game bother you in the slightest.

Our defense was geared, prepped, locked and loaded for one Sooner QB, and did amazingly well against him. At the last minute, Venables threw a curveball, and we were caught on the wrong foot for a series or two.

If that had happened in the 2nd Qtr instead of the 4th, our coaches would have recalibrated the defense and we'd have smothered Hawkins just as we did Arnold.

Our coaches will have this D ready for the more mobile QBs, and we'll control them. OK endgame is not an indicator of the future.

Go Vols!


p.s. Dont' forget this series which came in BETWEEN the two touchdown drives for Oklahoma:

Oklahoma Sooners

4 plays, -4 yards, 1:13
TENN22
OU9

  • 1st & 10 at OU 27​

    (6:21 - 4th) Michael Hawkins Jr. sacked by Jaxson Moi for a loss of 7 yards to the OU 20

  • 2nd & 17 at OU 20​

    (5:57 - 4th) Michael Hawkins Jr. run for 3 yds to the OU 23

  • 3rd & 14 at OU 23​

    (5:20 - 4th) Michael Hawkins Jr. pass incomplete

  • 4th & 14 at OU 23​

    (5:15 - 4th) Michael Hawkins Jr. pass incomplete

We are fully capable of controlling a mobile QB. Just gotta be ready for him.
 
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Volador said:
There are some very good teams out there, so am not ready to listen to the Urban Myths. Watched the VA Tech/Miami game and parts of the GA/BAMA game this weekend and not for a second do I think we could dominate either of those 4 teams. Win yes, but dominate? No, not yet.

Sorry Urb, not falling for your bait.
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Interesting. I was thinking Miami looked worse than Oklahoma
 
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Very different. With due respect, Fulmer coached in a much less balanced era. The talent he assembled should have beaten most of the teams on their schedule. Based on recruiting rankings, Fulmer just didn't win consistently against teams with equal much less greater talent. Spurrier outcoached him, out developed him, and out recruited him. Some of those losses were down right ugly. Saban very quickly left him in the dust.

Heupel OTOH has outperformed his talent and depth by any measure. He is now assembling more talent and depth. The culture is excellent. The approach is excellent. The development is exceptional.

And for those of us who actually remember the Fulmer days... discipline wasn't good before or after the NC. Vol players routinely "made the news" for all the wrong reasons. Those embarrassments have been pretty minimal with Heupel.
 
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Volador said:
There are some very good teams out there, so am not ready to listen to the Urban Myths. Watched the VA Tech/Miami game and parts of the GA/BAMA game this weekend and not for a second do I think we could dominate either of those 4 teams. Win yes, but dominate? No, not yet.

Sorry Urb, not falling for your bait.
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Idk, I didn't think Miami looked like a championship caliber team. Well, other than an ACC championship.

I feel like there's at least 4 teams in the SEC that could beat them convincingly right now.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Yes, quite yet. We're already there.

And one of the fun things about all this is, we have a whole generation of young Vols fans, say ages 5 to 24 or so, who have never experienced Tennessee Of Old.* They don't realize, yet, what this is gonna be like.

Go Vols!


* The Tennessee that stretches all the way from J.A. Pierce and Huburt Fisher's 6-2 seasons in 1899 and 1902, through George Levene's 7-2 in 1907 and 1908, through Zora Clevenger's 9-0 in 1914, through Bender and Banks and into the glorious Neyland decades of the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, and early 1950s (with help from John Barnhill during World War II), then onto Daryl Doug Dickey (thanks, LT), and ending up with Johnny Majors and Philip Fulmer. Ah, the Tennessee of old. And the Tennessee of today.
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24 years old. Vaguely remember watching Vols in SEC championship game 2007. To make it worse, my family moved to Alabama in 2009. So I’ve been getting ragged on for most of my life by Alabama and Auburn fans. Well, not really many Auburn fans the past few years 😂
 
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sjt18 said:
Very different. With due respect, Fulmer coached in a much less balanced era. The talent he assembled should have beaten most of the teams on their schedule. Based on recruiting rankings, Fulmer just didn't win consistently against teams with equal much less greater talent. Spurrier outcoached him, out developed him, and out recruited him. Some of those losses were down right ugly. Saban very quickly left him in the dust.

Heupel OTOH has outperformed his talent and depth by any measure. He is now assembling more talent and depth. The culture is excellent. The approach is excellent. The development is exceptional.

And for those of us who actually remember the Fulmer days... discipline wasn't good before or after the NC. Vol players routinely "made the news" for all the wrong reasons. Those embarrassments have been pretty minimal with Heupel.
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I don’t think people remember well. I DO. Were the typical top ten team with players who got in trouble semi regularly.

Fulmer had SO many 4-5 star BUSTS do to either lack of development, lack of getting along with teammates, or getting in trouble with the law.

He recruited really well. He didn’t run a great top to bottom program like Heupel. Not even close IMO.

I’ll always believe he won that natty because of a little luck and a LOT of great player LEADERS. Al Wilson particularly. Al is my favorite Vol of all time because I believe he might be the greatest leader of a FB team ever. Even the offense followed his lead.
 
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strkr said:
If Arion Carter hadn't put his hands to Hawkins facemask on a 4th quarter drive - Oklahoma would not have scored as it happened on a 4th down play and Tennessee had stopped them.
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I hate those calls! No team deserves to be flagged 15 yards just for touching the facemask. If so then every stiff arm should get flagged. Turn their head, even slightly, then fine throw the flag but these ticky-tack calls can affect the outcome of the game.
 
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sjt18 said:
Very different. With due respect, Fulmer coached in a much less balanced era. The talent he assembled should have beaten most of the teams on their schedule. Based on recruiting rankings, Fulmer just didn't win consistently against teams with equal much less greater talent. Spurrier outcoached him, out developed him, and out recruited him. Some of those losses were down right ugly. Saban very quickly left him in the dust.

Heupel OTOH has outperformed his talent and depth by any measure. He is now assembling more talent and depth. The culture is excellent. The approach is excellent. The development is exceptional.

And for those of us who actually remember the Fulmer days... discipline wasn't good before or after the NC. Vol players routinely "made the news" for all the wrong reasons. Those embarrassments have been pretty minimal with Heupel.
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The Fulmer Cup
 
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strkr said:
If Arion Carter hadn't put his hands to Hawkins facemask on a 4th quarter drive - Oklahoma would not have scored as it happened on a 4th down play and Tennessee had stopped them.
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Go back and watch one of Nico's fumbles. His second one I believe. OK defender hit his helmet/facemask with about as much force as Arion Carter hit Hawkins. But no call.

It shouldn't have been called in either situation
 
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BADGER_VOL said:
I don’t think people remember well. I DO. Were the typical top ten team with players who got in trouble semi regularly.

Fulmer had SO many 4-5 star BUSTS do to either lack of development, lack of getting along with teammates, or getting in trouble with the law.

He recruited really well. He didn’t run a great top to bottom program like Heupel. Not even close IMO.

I’ll always believe he won that natty because of a little luck and a LOT of great player LEADERS. Al Wilson particularly. Al is my favorite Vol of all time because I believe he might be the greatest leader of a FB team ever. Even the offense followed his lead.
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Players were afraid to lose with Al Wilson in the locker room.
 
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I think two things are true at once: we are good, but also a media darling right now. The narrative on Tennessee has really changed a lot. Donde, Danny, and Heupel deserve praise for reviving our culture, and the media is taking notice. Josh Pate is very high on us, and says that a lot of what Tennessee does behind the scenes is top notch. JP can be a little too nice to a lot of teams, but he says he is really impressed by Heupel, the supporting staff, and overall commitment to building something great.
 
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This Arkansas team is 3-2 but looks better than the record. It is much improved on offense over last season (think motorcycle rider Bobby Petrino, scrubbed clean and recalled to serve as offensive coordinator) Lol Marvin West! Read the entire article!
westwords--
 
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Y'all know you love some Marvin.



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