Reynolds out due to concussion.

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Definitely hurts she is much more calm and gets team in offense better than Cooper or Carter. They are the players that will have to step up today and make some plays.
 
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governmentmule said:
has anybody heard anything else about her health ?
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I assume she will be out for a year. That has been the case with all of our other concussion injuries lately.

I don't think for a second that we are really having that bad a run of head injuries. I think it is pretty clear that our protocol is far tighter than everyone else's. The laws of probability almost dictate that it has to be.
 
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I agree that our protocol is very strict and takes no chances with the athlete's health. When watching the other S16 and E8 games, several players hit their heads on the floor and got up slowly, looking a bit shaky. Most never came out of the game... and if they did, they went back in. Jordan looked fine when she was pulled and was slapping hands and talking to the other players and coaches. Other schools probably would have played her, with the F4 on the line.

I'd be surprised if UT releases any more info. If she has another concussion, her career at UT could be over.
 
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I don't mind them being careful with concussion injuries at all, was it a concussion or where they just being careful ?
 
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"Concussion-like symptoms" was what they released. So it was likely mild.

I agree-- I'm glad UT is concerned and cautious with players' health.
 
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Voluble2 said:
I assume she will be out for a year. That has been the case with all of our other concussion injuries lately.

I don't think for a second that we are really having that bad a run of head injuries. I think it is pretty clear that our protocol is far tighter than everyone else's. The laws of probability almost dictate that it has to be.
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That's not accurate. In the cases of Massengale and Jones, the concussions they received that caused extended absences were not their first concussion. In Jones' case, the one in the 2014-15 season that caused a long absence came just two days after she was cleared by doctors from a minor concussion suffered in practice.

In Reynolds' case, there is not a doctor in the country that would clear a player for contact two days after a concussion, even a mild one.
 
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Massengale got slapped in the face, as I recall, didn't look that bad--and missed the last half of the season. I think our docs/trainers are extremely cautious. As for Jones, things just never went right for her, I'm afraid.
 
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armchair said:
Massengale got slapped in the face, as I recall, didn't look that bad--and missed the last half of the season.
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A couple of knuckles to the temple at full speed probably will get your head spinning.

I can't imaging Ariel would not want to play. If she was seeing spots a month after it happened, I'd say she had good reason not to suit up.
 
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armchair said:
Massengale got slapped in the face, as I recall, didn't look that bad--and missed the last half of the season. I think our docs/trainers are extremely cautious. As for Jones, things just never went right for her, I'm afraid.
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She couldn't stand up after it, so don't downplay the contact.

They are not any more cautious than any other training staff. They are following the protocol that many other schools also follow as far as testing and benchmarks for returning from concussions.
 
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armchair said:
Massengale got slapped in the face, as I recall, didn't look that bad--and missed the last half of the season. I think our docs/trainers are extremely cautious. As for Jones, things just never went right for her, I'm afraid.
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I don't think that you know what it's like to be concussed. One of my daughters had repeated concussions (soccer) from 5th grade on. It doesn't have to be some sort of dramatic head hitting the floor. It occurs from the momentum of your head (with brain inside) going in one direction, and then suddenly your head changes direction and momentum, even from something apparently as innocuous as a slap to the face, but your brain keeps moving in the original direction and slams against your skull. Welcome to continual nausea, vertigo, difficulty in memory and concentration, and so forth.

I'm glad that they're held out, even when we need their talents. My daughter, who was (and is) extremely competitive in all parts of life, kept trying to start playing again, as it's hard to tell when you're back to normal. But the first time she would head the ball, she would wobble back off the field, on the edge of vomiting.

It's an insidious injury, because you look fine, but you're not. I think the trainers and physicians know what they're doing.
 
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VolNExile said:
I don't think that you know what it's like to be concussed. One of my daughters had repeated concussions (soccer) from 5th grade on. It doesn't have to be some sort of dramatic head hitting the floor. It occurs from the momentum of your head (with brain inside) going in one direction, and then suddenly your head changes direction and momentum, even from something apparently as innocuous as a slap to the face, but your brain keeps moving in the original direction and slams against your skull. Welcome to continual nausea, vertigo, difficulty in memory and concentration, and so forth.

I'm glad that they're held out, even when we need their talents. My daughter, who was (and is) extremely competitive in all parts of life, kept trying to start playing again, as it's hard to tell when you're back to normal. But the first time she would head the ball, she would wobble back off the field, on the edge of vomiting.

It's an insidious injury, because you look fine, but you're not. I think the trainers and physicians know what they're doing.
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So, so true. And these effects can linger on for quite sometime.

As for the LV staff being more conservative. people need to understand the concussion protocol.

Part one involves the player no longer having such symptoms - like vertigo, fatigue, nausea, light sensitivity and so on.

part two involves passing a baseline test. That is, at the start of a season, players are given comprehensive cognitive function test; that establish baseline measures on response time and accuracy to various mental exercises. A concussed player has to be able to meet the baseline standard before being cleared to play.

And there are significant risk if a player gets concussed again before having fully recovered from a previous one.
 
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So much better to be cautious than take a life-affecting chance.

Are other teams having as much trouble as we have the last few years? Anyone got stats on that?
 
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governmentmule said:
sorry to hear that about your daughter,is she still playing sports ?
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She had to stop soccer for nearly two years before she could go full-speed again, and she had several more mild concussions through high school. She's grown now with no apparent ill effects and I'd still an athlete. But maybe not heading the ball quite as much. :)

Very kind of you to ask. :hi:
 
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it is good to hear that she is doing good exile

it seems that the Lady Vols are taking concussion seriously which is a good thing
 
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DeerPark12 said:
If a player won't sign a release, then UT has no choice in the matter.
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I understand the privacy part and players not wanting specifics about their injury released, but what about releasing how long the player will be out? Many times even that scant information is impossible to get..
 
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there just isn't going to be much information put out boxer,which i understand why the players won't let out the info,but as a fan it sucks :)
 
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boxerpupsrcool said:
I understand the privacy part and players not wanting specifics about their injury released, but what about releasing how long the player will be out? Many times even that scant information is impossible to get..
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The length of time required to recover from a concussion varies significantly from person to person. The team doc doesn't know for certain how long it will take for the player to stop having vertigo, photophobia, etc, nor when they'll be able to pass their neuro exam. If the player agreed to allow info to be released, then the neurologist guessed how long Jordan is going to have a headache and was off by a month or two, the fans would be even more upset.

Posters here don't say players with broken ankles are out too long, or that their orthopedic surgeons are too cautious. I don't understand why concussion management produces the reaction it does. [Not directed at you, boxer.]
 
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