Richt Getting Extension

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Just a few days ago there was a thread stating CMR would be stepping down after the bowl game.
 
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Richt has done pretty good there, but I'm happy to see him stay. He's beatable. I'd hate to see Georgia get someone that could fully realize the potential of that program.
 
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allvol123 said:
He does under achieve. Missouri won the East the past two years. It should have been Richt's both years.
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How should it have been Richt's to win last year?

They got decimated by injuries and were like an 8 win team. If you're going a "should have won" route that year, it would be the 10/11 win South Carolina team.


Or were you just going the "TN, UF, UGA are the big names; one of those 3 should win it every year" route here?
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
We have beaten him 4 times in 13 years. But yeah it's great that he got an extension.

So averaging about 9-10 wins a season, going to a bowl game every season and goin 9-5 in bowl games is underachieving? If that's the case then I hope Butch severely overachieves.
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Don't you know that every coach at a big name program should have a minimum standard of winning multiple national championships? :p
 
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bamacheats said:
If you coach Georgia for that long and you can't even get a sniff of a NC, yes, that's under achieving. Stupid amount of talent in that state, the SEC east is terrible, and Missouri is better? He's an under achiever.
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I'm not sure how that's the case. UGA only has like one NC to its history, doesn't it?


What qualifies, btw, as not getting a sniff of a NC? His team was playing in an SEC championship game against Alabama in 2012 in what was pretty much a semifinal game (the winner would be playing Notre Dame in that year's BCS championship).
 
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allvol123 said:
He does under achieve. Missouri won the East the past two years. It should have been Richt's both years.
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So now we live vicariously through Mizzou? I've never understood wanting Richt to stay, he may underachieve on a national level but he doesn't underachieve when it comes to us. He's owned us in his 14 years there.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
So now we live vicariously through Mizzou? I've never understood wanting Richt to stay, he may underachieve on a national level but he doesn't underachieve when it comes to us. He's owned us in his 14 years there.
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This. I hope they fire him and hire someone who sets their program back a decade.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
So now we live vicariously through Mizzou? I've never understood wanting Richt to stay, he may underachieve on a national level but he doesn't underachieve when it comes to us. He's owned us in his 14 years there.
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I don't live through anyone. He under achieves, that is fact. Owning us as of the past 10 years is no great feat.
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
The point of ANY program is not relevance, the point of a program is continuing to get better and reach new levels of success.

If I'm a team like Vandy, what's my goal? To beat a team I shouldn't beat. Because that's getting better.

If I'm a team like Tennessee, what's my goal? To win the SEC East. Because that's getting better.

If I'm a team like Georgia, what's my goal? To win the SEC Championship. Because that's getting better.

If I'm a team like Alabama, what's my goal? To win the National Championship. Because that's getting better.

If I'm a team like Florida State, what's my goal? To win the National Championship again. Because that's getting better.

I mean, if you as a program are not aiming at getting to a National Championship, then what are you doing?

Tennessee is at a point where given its talent, and given its situation, a bowl game and a bowl win is a great goal. But next year, am I going to be satisfied with 6-6 and a bowl win? No. I want to build on that. I want 7-5 and a bowl win or 8-4 and a bowl win. Or I want a SEC East Championship. I don't expect an SEC Championship or a Playoff berth, but I want to get better.

Georgia has been loaded with more talent more consistently than any other school outside of Alabama and maybe LSU. It is in one of the best states for high school football talent. It has consistently brought in talented players, and yet, has done nothing more than an occasional SEC East championship, and a few SEC Championships, though its been a while. I mean, last year, Georgia had a Senior QB who was one of the best that's ever played there in Aaron Murray. They had Todd Gurley who had he stayed healthy this year and stayed away from Sharpies was a likely Heisman contender and possible winner. They've had fantastic NFL players and good defenses and offenses, and yet, they have not even sniffed a National Championship, and I'd personally bet the farm that they will never make the playoffs under Richt.

There's no progress. They've topped out. No matter how good they are slated to be, they've topped out. It is no different than Fulmer in the 2000's. Had some great years where the expectations were high, but topped out. Had the players. But just could not do it.

Georgia never scares me. Every year, I can see Alabama winning a championship, or Auburn, heck, I even thought that Ole Miss or Miss. State might make a run at it. But I never am worried that Georgia will make any noise. Sure, they beat us.

But they are simply topped out. He's had success in the sense of he has kept them nationally relevant, and has kept them from being an embarrassment. But nobody thinks UGA is ever a serious title contender. Not really.
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You could've just said that Richt has under achieved.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
So now we live vicariously through Mizzou? I've never understood wanting Richt to stay, he may underachieve on a national level but he doesn't underachieve when it comes to us. He's owned us in his 14 years there.
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Fulmer wrecked the program. Hamilton doused it with jet fuel and set it ablaze. Richt didn't own sh!t. Victim of circumstance.
 
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bamacheats said:
Fulmer wrecked the program. Hamilton doused it with jet fuel and set it ablaze. Richt didn't own sh!t. Victim of circumstance.
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He's a pos self hating supposed vol fan. Not worth a response.
 
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allvol123 said:
I don't live through anyone. He under achieves, that is fact. Owning us as of the past 10 years is no great feat.
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Past 14. He's 10-4 vs us and has a winning record over 3 of the 4 coaches of ours he's faced. His underachieving sure hasn't helped us lately.
 
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bamacheats said:
Fulmer wrecked the program. Hamilton doused it with jet fuel and set it ablaze. Richt didn't own sh!t. Victim of circumstance.
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Fulmer and Richt both went to 3 SECCG in the 8 years their paths crossed. The program was not wrecked from 2001-2004.
 
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hog88 said:
He's a pos self hating supposed vol fan. Not worth a response.
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Hog, I bet you have a rough time in life if you go around calling everyone who disagrees with you a POS.

As far as my fandom goes, you're entitled to your opinion, no matter egregious. However, the diploma proudly displayed on my wall disagrees.
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
per ESPN.

This is GREAT news for us. Let the underachieving continue!
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After reading all the posts in this thread, I still don't understand how this is great news for Tennessee fans. Is this like all the UT fans that wanted Muschamp to stay at Florida despite being 0-4 against him?
 
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While he may be underachieving, the simple fact of the matter is he is still keeping the team relevant, and who knows? Maybe one year the cards will actually fall right and they will make it all the way. However if they cut him loose? I'd say the chances are in the 90's that they would regress, and in a big way. I know it must be frustrating to be on the cusp of true excellence for so long, but holy crap, being a fan of a traditional basement dweller (Purdue) and being through the meltdown of Tennessee the last few years, I'd say if I were a fan I'd much rather have that problem then just hoping and praying for a toilet bowl every year.

Alabama getting Saban was lightning in a bottle, not something that is just going to happen every time a big program wants to do more. Maybe Michigan will finally be able to have the same success with Harbaugh, but that won't be seen for another couple of years yet. I mean Mora has done wonders at UCLA but they haven't gotten close to a playoff yet, so it's not always a guarantee an ex pro coach will guarantee national success.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
Hog, I bet you have a rough time in life if you go around calling everyone who disagrees with you a POS.

As far as my fandom goes, you're entitled to your opinion, no matter egregious. However, the diploma proudly displayed on my wall disagrees.
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His GED disagrees with you
 
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The Ron Mexico said:
After reading all the posts in this thread, I still don't understand how this is great news for Tennessee fans. Is this like all the UT fans that wanted Muschamp to stay at Florida despite being 0-4 against him?
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Why wouldn't you want Muschamp at Florida? We only had that record because we were at the lowest point in our programs history. We didn't have great records against Zook or Shula iirc but they were a hell of a lot better for us than their replacements.

PS I am in no way comparing Richt to Muschamp, Zook, or Shula.
 
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It took Tom Osborne 20+ years before he finally won a national title at Nebraska. Year after year his teams would win 9-10 games, dominate the old Big 8, play in the major bowls, etc., but they could never win the big one. Then, the mid 1990's happened, and now he is widely considered one of the all-time greats.

I'm NOT saying Richt is Osborne, but I don't blame UGA one damn bit for hanging onto him. The guy knows how to coach, and, though he hasn't been able to get the "big one", how to win.
 
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