roger clemens on 60 minutes

#4
#4
I loved were he said he doesn't want to file a lawsuit against McNamee because of the high cost of litigation. I always imagined him to be the Travis Henry type, spending all his money on gold jewelry.
 
#5
#5
The Dude said:
I loved were he said he doesn't want to file a lawsuit against McNamee because of the high cost of litigation. I always imagined him to be the Travis Henry type, spending all his money on gold jewelry.
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like i said... retire and hide.

we both know the real reason he doesn't want to bring a lawsuit up.
 
#7
#7
shoulda just said no to drugs Roger.:p

I don't need 60 minutes to tell me he's guilty.
 
#8
#8
The Dude said:
I loved were he said he doesn't want to file a lawsuit against McNamee because of the high cost of litigation.
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I missed the interview, but that is hilarious. Poor Roger can't scrape together enough money to fund a lawsuit? :lolabove:
 
#12
#12
clemens was pi**ed! anyone think he was going to get out of his chair and strangle mike wallace?
 
#14
#14
Clemens did not do it. He said so by referencing pulling trains with his teeth.

Men in their mid 40s still recover well enough to be dominant in 5 man pitching rotations. Forget that he couldn't do it through the mid 90s, he just started working out harder when he got older.
 
#15
#15
Honestly, are we ever going to know the truth? I don't see any way this can ever be anything but a he said/the trainer said situation. If there were proof, it would be out there already.

We will never know who is telling the truth. Might as well just move on....
 
#16
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orange+white=heaven said:
Honestly, are we ever going to know the truth? I don't see any way this can ever be anything but a he said/the trainer said situation. If there were proof, it would be out there already.

We will never know who is telling the truth. Might as well just move on....
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It would be a he said/he said situation if it hadn't been glaringly obvious for over half a decade that Clemens has been juicing, IMO. He was in obvious decline when Boston dumped him; he was a .500 pitcher from 93-96. And then suddenly, at the height of the steroid era, he turned it around and started winning Cy Youngs again. The only Hall of Famer who's ever enjoyed a comparable late-career renaissance is, uh, Barry Bonds.

The only thing left to find out is whether Clemens is confident enough that he hasn't left any evidence that he'll lie to Congress about it.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
It would be a he said/he said situation if it hadn't been glaringly obvious for over half a decade that Clemens has been juicing, IMO. He was in obvious decline when Boston dumped him; he was a .500 pitcher from 93-96. And then suddenly, at the height of the steroid era, he turned it around and started winning Cy Youngs again. The only Hall of Famer who's ever enjoyed a comparable late-career renaissance is, uh, Barry Bonds.

The only thing left to find out is whether Clemens is confident enough that he hasn't left any evidence that he'll lie to Congress about it.
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agreed. i always wondered why no one mentioned clemens among the "obvious" roiders. he's clearly guilty. take a lie detector test rodger and then i might believe you. also don't wait a week to say you aren't a roider. if i was innocent i would be screaming from the rooftops the minute the report was out.
 
#18
#18
i'm happy for Roger to go down fighting. It's going to be quite difficult to win this suit however whether he's actually innocent or not.
 
#19
#19
Someone may have mentioned this.. but at the end of the interview he said something to the effect of "i'm afraid no matter how many tests i take, things i say, or times i'm proven innocent.. that it won't matter"

And he's right
it could be that NOTHING comes from any of this, and still almost every recent player's reputation is tainted.
 
#20
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Vercingetorix said:
The only thing left to find out is whether Clemens is confident enough that he hasn't left any evidence that he'll lie to Congress about it.
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There was a guy on the radio speculating that Clemens filed the lawsuit today so that he will not have to testify in front of Congress, saying he could refuse to because it would interfere with the suit. Interesting, but I don't know if its possible for him to refuse.
 
#21
#21
Clemens took roids'. He's just now seeing how far his name and money will get him and how clean he can prove his name to society.

I bet Roger is lonely.
 
#22
#22
if clemens is innocent why during his phone conversation with the trainer did he never ask why the guy was lying?
 
#23
#23
droski said:
if clemens is innocent why during his phone conversation with the trainer did he never ask why the guy was lying?
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I kinda thought it was sorry for roger to tape it as well....the man said call him cause his son is dying and maybe he wanted to have someone to talk to and then roger tries to play the blame game and place it brian :no:

And I still laugh at I get injected with b-12 :eek:lol:who gets injected with that and if it was injected shouldn't your doctor do it not your trainer....roger is done what a fraud
 
#24
#24
Roger Clemens is going to come out a bigger clown than Barry Bonds. I always felt there was a side of Clemens I didn't like, I'm starting to see it now.
 
#25
#25
what did it for me was the taped phone conversatin with the trainer.

how many times do you have to say "what do you want me to do?" to only reply "my family is real upset....".

B.S. If that was me, and i was innocent, i'd of told him to explain why he lied.....that he and i would be going to congress so you could explain it. that we'd be having a press conf. w/in the next 24 hours so you can tell the truth.......

Clemens never did any of that....

also, he said at one point "how could you do this to me?" As if he sold him out, not that he lied about this, but "how could you do this"....

juice, it's not just for breakfast anymore.
 
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