Romney: McCain earned his homes; Obama didn't

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didn't read the article, but it sounds ridiculous. He married into the majority of them.
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Yeah he married into them. He definitely outpunted his coverage, if that's any consoliation....
 
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Once again, the issue is not how many homes McCain has. It's that he's out of touch with what's going on. He has so many homes he lost count. He doesn't have to deal with any of that - his wife's fortunes take care of it for him.

That aside, Romney's logic is swiss cheese.
 
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TennNC said:
Once again, the issue is not how many homes McCain has. It's that he's out of touch with what's going on. He has so many homes he lost count. He doesn't have to deal with any of that - his wife's fortunes take care of it for him.

That aside, Romney's logic is swiss cheese.
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You're stretching the truth. Neither one of these guys have known what the "average guy" in America is going through and haven't for some time now.
 
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KB5252 said:
You're stretching the truth. Neither one of these guys have known what the "average guy" in America is going through and haven't for some time now.
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McCain didn't know how many homes he owns.

He doesn't know.

Didn't have the answer. About how many homes he owns.

"How many homes do you own?" Pretty simple question. Pretty easy. Not difficult. Most people can keep track of that information. Most people don't have to think about it.

John McCain has to think. and think. and think some more.

And still he couldn't come up with the answer.

What other question is actually easier to answer? What question requires less thought than, "How many homes do you own?"

How about, "how many wives do you have?"

How about, "how old are you?"

Or maybe, "how many airplanes do you own?"

Perhaps, "what's your birthday?"

or, "how many noses do you have?"

I think we're in the same ballpark here.

Let's see. "How many homes do you own?" I bet most people could get that one right. In fact, I bet 99.9999999999% of people could get that right. I guess John McCain makes up the other .0000000001%.

If someone told me they'd offer me $1 million to tell them how many homes I owned, I think I could muster up the intelligence and savvy to provide that answer - on the spot - no thinking required. I think I could step up to the plate and knock that slow curve out of the park. I'm pretty sure I could throw down that dunk on an 8-foot rim. Pretty sure I could put away that open-court volley after my opponent had fallen down. Pretty sure I could clean up that spare. Pretty sure I could kick that extra point. Pretty sure I could knock in that straight, uphill 1-foot putt.

John McCain couldn't.

Couldn't answer how many homes he owns.

So, yeah, I suppose he's not out of touch.
 
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TennNC said:
McCain didn't know how many homes he owns.

He doesn't know.

Didn't have the answer. About how many homes he owns.

"How many homes do you own?" Pretty simple question. Pretty easy. Not difficult. Most people can keep track of that information. Most people don't have to think about it.

TennNC, he and his wife have many properties, some of them investment and other residences. So he didn't know how many homes he owns! What does that have to do with anything? Does that speak to his judgment? You may think that means he is out of touch with the "average" American and I would agree! That doesn't change the fact that Obama and 99.9% of all politicians are out of touch with the "average" American.

Do you seriously think Michelle and Barrack have to crunch the numbers and do without to make it at the end of every month? My guess is no you don't! Point is neither of our choices are "in touch" with America and anyone that claims otherwise is being intellectually dishonest!

All I can go on is these two candidates judgment, and IMO the guy that has shown the best judgment here is McCain.
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KB5252 said:
TennNC said:
McCain didn't know how many homes he owns.

He doesn't know.

Didn't have the answer. About how many homes he owns.

"How many homes do you own?" Pretty simple question. Pretty easy. Not difficult. Most people can keep track of that information. Most people don't have to think about it.

TennNC, he and his wife have many properties, some of them investment and other residences. So he didn't know how many homes he owns! What does that have to do with anything? Does that speak to his judgment? You may think that means he is out of touch with the "average" American and I would agree! That doesn't change the fact that Obama and 99.9% of all politicians are out of touch with the "average" American.

Do you seriously think Michelle and Barrack have to crunch the numbers and do without to make it at the end of every month? My guess is no you don't! Point is neither of our choices are "in touch" with America and anyone that claims otherwise is being intellectually dishonest!

All I can go on is these two candidates judgment, and IMO the guy that has shown the best judgment here is McCain.
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Do you know how many homes you own?
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TennNC said:
KB5252 said:
Do you know how many homes you own?
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Yes but my wife and I are the average American. We do not own investment properties and do not have vacation homes.

I would also add that we did not use Rezco (sp), a fund raiser and political supporter as well as real estate professional who just happens to have been convicted of corruption, and never received a "sweetheart deal" on our home. We know the McCain's properties are on the up and up. There are questions surrounding the Obama's "estate".

I'm not sure properties are a wise debating point for the Obama's.
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Let me ask you a question. how many mutual funds do you own in your 401K? better yet how many mutual funds does your wife own in HER 401k? had to think about it didn't you? you probably didn't know the answer right? how is this any different? a) his wife has investment properties, b) they are his WIFE'S properties and he isn't told squat about her investments if her investment advisors are worth their salt. I advise EVERY client I have to keep their property and investments seperate when they marry if they have a sizable net worth. THe day she starts involving Mccain in her investments is the day that he can claim he helped "manage" her investments and can claim a piece of them if they get divorced.
 
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TennNC said:
Once again, the issue is not how many homes McCain has. It's that he's out of touch with what's going on. He has so many homes he lost count. He doesn't have to deal with any of that - his wife's fortunes take care of it for him.
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Do you really buy this? Was he out of touch when you voted for him or has he lost touch since then?
 
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droski said:
Let me ask you a question. how many mutual funds do you own in your 401K? better yet how many mutual funds does your wife own in HER 401k? had to think about it didn't you? you probably didn't know the answer right? how is this any different? a) his wife has investment properties, b) they are his WIFE'S properties and he isn't told squat about her investments if her investment advisors are worth their salt. I advise EVERY client I have to keep their property and investments seperate when they marry if they have a sizable net worth. THe day she starts involving Mccain in her investments is the day that he can claim he helped "manage" her investments and can claim a piece of them if they get divorced.
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Than would it have been so hard for McCain to respond by saying, "aside from the homes that we have as investment properties we have 'X' homes"? Or "We have 'X' homes, now that doesn't include investment properties that we do not live in."
 
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615 Vol said:
Than would it have been so hard for McCain to respond by saying, "aside from the homes that we have as investment properties we have 'X' homes"? Or "We have 'X' homes, now that doesn't include investment properties that we do not live in."
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What if he doesn't deal with these properties? What if they are his wives pet? Would this not be plausible? For the record I don't think his answer looked good but I don't see that this makes him anymore "out of touch" with the common American than any other politician.
 
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615 Vol said:
Than would it have been so hard for McCain to respond by saying, "aside from the homes that we have as investment properties we have 'X' homes"? Or "We have 'X' homes, now that doesn't include investment properties that we do not live in."
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wouldn't your natural response be to actually answer the question and think about it?

let's face it anyone thinking any of these politicians are the "every man" needs to stop smoking the good stuff.
 
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KB5252 said:
What if he doesn't deal with these properties? What if they are his wives pet? Would this not be plausible? For the record I don't think his answer looked good but I don't see that this makes him anymore "out of touch" with the common American than any other politician.
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That's why he makes it a point to only give a total for the homes they live in and then, even at a later time, he can explain that the other homes are investment properties.
 
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droski said:
let's face it anyone thinking any of these politicians are the "every man" needs to stop smoking the good stuff.
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This is the real point. Neither guy is living the "average guy" life.

Obama's arugula and speaking French comments are as much an indicator of being out of touch as are McCain's comments.
 
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615 Vol said:
That's why he makes it a point to only give a total for the homes they live in and then, even at a later time, he can explain that the other homes are investment properties.
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But that is not what they asked him. I think the person who asked knew how many homes he owned already (public record) and he tried to keep himself from walking right into a bomb (although he did a poor job of it). Bottom line is he didn't know so he told them he would have his people get back to them with the correct answer.
 
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volinbham said:
This is the real point. Neither guy is living the "average guy" life.

Obama's arugula and speaking French comments are as much an indicator of being out of touch as are McCain's comments.
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my favorite was hillary claiming she was the most in touch candidate with the every man. what's the chance she has even pumped her own gas at any point in the last say 15 years? 5%?
 
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droski said:
my favorite was hillary claiming she was the most in touch candidate with the every man. what's the chance she has even pumped her own gas at any point in the last say 15 years? 5%?
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Zero, I guess you didnt see the ad she ran where she couldn't pump gas into the truck she was riding around in?
 
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volinbham said:
This is the real point. Neither guy is living the "average guy" life.

Obama's arugula and speaking French comments are as much an indicator of being out of touch as are McCain's comments.
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It's all relative. And to answer your earlier question, I'm buying it inasmuch as it helps combat a commonly held view amongst enough voters that Obama is elitist. Compared to McCain, he ain't. He actually started with very little, worked his way up, and spent a good deal of his career helping the least amongst us. He also didn't leave his wife and marry into buttloads of money.

If that charge hadn't been brought against my guy, I wouldn't espouse the other argument against yours.
 
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TennNC said:
It's all relative. And to answer your earlier question, I'm buying it inasmuch as it helps combat a commonly held view amongst enough voters that Obama is elitist. Compared to McCain, he ain't. He actually started with very little, worked his way up, and spent a good deal of his career helping the least amongst us. He also didn't leave his wife and marry into buttloads of money.

If that charge hadn't been brought against my guy, I wouldn't espouse the other argument against yours.
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Remind me how easy it is to grow up in a military family........................

Why does it matter how much money he has?????

Either have no idea what is going on in our world.
 
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Obama is elitist for many reasons. remember his response to the Laffer curve question? he thinks only he knows how to get the economy going, and that massive tax increases on small business owners and heavy industries will somehow create millions of well paying jobs.

His desire to impose universal healthcare completely ignores the fact that UHC has failed miserably in places like Canada and the UK, the two systems he wants to emulate here.
 
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