Ron Paul 2012

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codyg10

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What do yall think of him? I think he is the best option we have right now but I think people are kind of scared of his ideas that he has given to the public.
 
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He has some good ideas, but he finds himself a little too simpatico with the 911 Truther movement to be taken seriously. His live-and-let-live approach to Iran is disturbing as well.
 
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Here's what's going to happen (in my ideal world mixed with a dose of reality)....

Ron Paul's movement is going to get huge, but not big enough. Obama wins re-election against Perry or Romney. Republicans realize same old formula is dead. Ron Paul endorses Gary Johnson in 2016, and the Republicans finally nominate somebody who is fiscally responsible.
 
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nbakerld said:
Here's what's going to happen (in my ideal world mixed with a dose of reality)....

Ron Paul's movement is going to get huge, but not big enough. Obama wins re-election against Perry or Romney. Republicans realize same old formula is dead. Ron Paul endorses Gary Johnson in 2016, and the Republicans finally nominate somebody who is fiscally responsible.
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I agree with this, one exception though, it will be his son Rand instead of Johnson.
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nbakerld said:
Here's what's going to happen (in my ideal world mixed with a dose of reality)....

Ron Paul's movement is going to get huge, but not big enough. Obama wins re-election against Perry or Romney. Republicans realize same old formula is dead. Ron Paul endorses Gary Johnson in 2016, and the Republicans finally nominate somebody who is fiscally responsible.
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Oil money will squash them
 
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codyg10 said:
What do yall think of him? I think he is the best option we have right now but I think people are kind of scared of his ideas that he has given to the public.
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and why is he the best option?
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Have a look at the mans voting record. He does not flip flop like most politicians. In this day its rare to find a man that stands on principal.
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I agree.
But in the same sense if he's not selling different view points to different crowds (playing politics) and everybody liked his positions he'd be the front runner.
 
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BeecherVol said:
I agree.
But in the same sense if he's not selling different view points to different crowds (playing politics) and everybody liked his positions he'd be the front runner.
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If the MSM stopped smearing him, he might gain traction. He's the only true anti-establishment candidate in the GOP field right now. Everyone else is the same.

He's the only candidate that has military service and has more donations from that group than anyone else. He called the burst of the housing bubble in 2001, Cain was still saying everything was great even a week before the bottom fell out.

I just don't get, when you really examine the candidates and look at Ron's position, why he's considered a "kook".

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. That is what we have with the rest of the GOP field.
 
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MystifyingVol said:
If the MSM stopped smearing him, he might gain traction. He's the only true anti-establishment candidate in the GOP field right now. Everyone else is the same.

He's the only candidate that has military service and has more donations from that group than anyone else. He called the burst of the housing bubble in 2001, Cain was still saying everything was great even a week before the bottom fell out.

I just don't get, when you really examine the candidates and look at Ron's position, why he's considered a "kook".

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. That is what we have with the rest of the GOP field.
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Ok, call me crazy here, but when you make the point that we should not have assassinated Osama when given the chance, that isn't going to fly with the vast majority of Americans despite what you believe about sovereign countries, etc.
 
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MystifyingVol said:
I just don't get, when you really examine the candidates and look at Ron's position, why he's considered a "kook".
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I don't think it's his positions as much as his delivery and the fact that he comes off as an unyielding idealogue in a lot of cases where the answer isn't quite black and white.

Plus, he's got a pocket of supporters that are simply annoying and fall back on the "you just don't understand" retort. That part doesn't make him a kook . . . just annoying.
 
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MystifyingVol said:
If the MSM stopped smearing him, he might gain traction. He's the only true anti-establishment candidate in the GOP field right now. Everyone else is the same.

He's the only candidate that has military service and has more donations from that group than anyone else. He called the burst of the housing bubble in 2001, Cain was still saying everything was great even a week before the bottom fell out.

I just don't get, when you really examine the candidates and look at Ron's position, why he's considered a "kook".

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. That is what we have with the rest of the GOP field.
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I think there is a little more to it than that. At least for me it is.
 
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MystifyingVol said:
If the MSM stopped smearing him, he might gain traction. He's the only true anti-establishment candidate in the GOP field right now. Everyone else is the same.

He's the only candidate that has military service and has more donations from that group than anyone else. He called the burst of the housing bubble in 2001, Cain was still saying everything was great even a week before the bottom fell out.

I just don't get, when you really examine the candidates and look at Ron's position, why he's considered a "kook".

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. That is what we have with the rest of the GOP field.
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might want to check your facts on that one
 
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theFallGuy said:
Ok, call me crazy here, but when you make the point that we should not have assassinated Osama when given the chance, that isn't going to fly with the vast majority of Americans despite what you believe about sovereign countries, etc.
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Him not being a social conservative also doesn't help. He has sound fiscal ideas and isn't a flip flopper but some of his views with regards to the war on terror hurt his chances with the GOP.
 
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GAVol said:
I think it's his positions as much as his delivery and the fact that he comes off as an unyielding idealogue in a lot of cases where the answer isn't quite black and white.

Plus, he's got a pocket of supporters that are simply annoying and fall back on the "you just don't understand" retort. That part doesn't make him a kook . . . just annoying.
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I worked with a lady in 2007 who was a big Paul supporter and she was annoying as hell.
 
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The fact is that if we don't nominate Paul or someone in Paul's zip code in terms of his politics, the GOP will lose in 2012. The Tea Partiers and Paul supporters will not support Romney or Perry.

We'll just have to keep losing elections I suppose until the GOP gets it right.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The fact is that if we don't nominate Paul or someone in Paul's zip code in terms of his politics, the GOP will lose in 2012. The Tea Partiers and Paul supporters will not support Romney or Perry.

We'll just have to keep losing elections I suppose until the GOP gets it right.
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Not the case imo.
 
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