Ron Paul Can't Win

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#426
MG1968 said:
rednecks from Georgia and ****kickers from Texas aren't quite the same as David Duke and the larger white power movement

if you're going to criticize Newt for taking money from Freddie and Fannie, then you should hold your hero to an identical standard
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Ron Paul wasn't lobbying for David Duke or the KKK, nor was he employed by or supporting their dogma. Newt Gingrinch was lobbying for Freddie Mac.

Big difference.

Show me a picture of Ron Paul at a David Duke rally or show me a document that says he was on the KKK payroll and I would gladly say that you have a point.
 
#427
#427
MG1968 said:
I will have to remember you said that.
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What, you think you have me trapped for some future discussion because I said people can change? You don't think they can?

Paul has always espoused an agenda that favors minorities. Even if he didn't care for minorities in his heart in the 1980s, it's very easy to forgive because in principle and in action he has supported views that favor minorities.
 
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#429
2 weeks ago, Ron Paul had no chance to win anything and Newt was surging in Iowa. Last week, Romney, Newt and Paul were deadlocked, but Paul was still only going to play the role of spoiler for at best Newt. Now that Paul is ahead in Iowa, Iowa doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. The main "contenders" were just going to write it off anyways and focus all of their efforts in NH. Then the real campaign will begin.

:crazy:
 
#432
#432
RP endorsed Cynthia McKinney in 2008

Ron Paul to announce presidential endorsement plans – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

Paul, who unsuccessfully sought the Republican presidential nomination, will tell supporters he is not endorsing GOP nominee John McCain or Democratic nominee Barack Obama, and will instead give his seal of approval to four candidates: Green Party nominee Cynthia McKinney, Libertarian Party nominee Bob Barr, independent candidate Ralph Nader, and Constitution Party candidate Chuck Baldwin, according to a senior Paul aide.
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Is this real?
 
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nbakerld said:
Yes. Why would he throw is support behind McCain? At least with McKinney, Barr, and whomever esle there won't be a policy to engage in endless war.

It was actually a "raise awareness" tactic more than anything.
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Whatever the tactic was, it's a boneheaded move. Being in the same sentence with Cynthia McKinney only raises awareness that you shouldn't be taken seriously.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
2 weeks ago, Ron Paul had no chance to win anything and Newt was surging in Iowa. Last week, Romney, Newt and Paul were deadlocked, but Paul was still only going to play the role of spoiler for at best Newt. Now that Paul is ahead in Iowa, Iowa doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. The main "contenders" were just going to write it off anyways and focus all of their efforts in NH. Then the real campaign will begin.

:crazy:
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Iowa matters to different candidates to differing degrees but there's no doubt that the backloaded schedule has made it matter less. Everybody knows Paul will do well there because of his organization and the fact that it's a caucus state.
 
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golfballs03 said:
:jawdrop:

Well I was starting to warm on him, but in light of this, it reaffirms my initial opinion that he is bat**** crazy and belongs in a looney bin
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He'd be bat**** (like the rest of the GOP) if he had thrown his support behind McCain:

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
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nbakerld said:
He'd be bat**** (like the rest of the GOP) if he had thrown his support behind McCain:
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You are obviously not well acquainted with Cynthia McKinney. If you legitimately think McCain and Cynthia McKinney are even in the same zip-code as far as potential bad presidents, you need to get your head examined.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
You are obviously not well acquainted with Cynthia McKinney. If you legitimately think McCain and Cynthia McKinney are even in the same zip-code as far as potential bad presidents, you need to get your head examined.
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I would love for somebody to explain to me what makes her so crazy? I just looked at her wikipedia page and it looks like she spoke against wars, Al Gore, and the Bush administration for not preventing 9/11. She doesn't seem all that crazy.

Also, from a practical standpoint, she had no chance. There was an event where all the independents got together and talked about the uselesness of settling for the lesser of 2 evils. The whole point was to try to get people to realize we aren't confined to a 2-party system. That's why Ron Paul scattered his endorsement over 4 candidates.
 
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nbakerld said:
I would love for somebody to explain to me what makes her so crazy? I just looked at her wikipedia page and it looks like she spoke against wars, Al Gore, and the Bush administration for not preventing 9/11. She doesn't seem all that crazy.

Also, from a practical standpoint, she had no chance. There was an event where all the independents got together and talked about the uselesness of settling for the lesser of 2 evils. The whole point was to try to get people to realize we aren't confined to a 2-party system. That's why Ron Paul scattered his endorsement over 4 candidates.
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McKinney gained national attention for remarks she made following the 2001 US attacks, charging that the United States had advance knowledge of the attacks and that US President George W. Bush may have been aware of the incipient attack and allowed them to happen,[17] allegedly due to his father's business interests: "It is known that President Bush's father, through the Carlyle Group, had–at the time of the attacks–joint business interests with the bin Laden construction company and many defense industry holdings, the stocks of which have soared since September 11."
 
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On September 28, 2008, at a press conference, McKinney announced that she had spoken with a constituent whose son was a National Guardsman. The constituent claimed her son had disposed of 5,000 bodies for the Department of Defense during the week of Hurricane Katrina. She further believed that there were credible reports that the bodies were prisoners who had all been crushed by tanks, shot in the head, painted blue, and dumped in a Louisiana swamp. McKinney said that the story had been corroborated by anonymous "insider" sources.[55][56]
 
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I remember this incident:

On the morning of March 29, 2006, McKinney entered the Longworth House Office Building's southeast entrance and proceeded past the security checkpoint, walking around the metal detector. Members of Congress have identifying lapel pins and are not required to pass through metal detectors. The officers present failed to recognize McKinney as a member of Congress because she was not wearing the appropriate lapel pin and had recently changed her hairstyle. She proceeded westward down the ground floor hallway and about halfway down the hallway was stopped by United States Capitol Police officer Paul McKenna, who states that he had been calling after her: "Ma'am, Ma'am!"; at that time it is reported that McKinney struck the officer. Two days later, Officer McKenna filed a police report claiming that McKinney had struck "his chest with a closed fist."
In the midst of a media frenzy, McKinney made an apology[60] on the floor of the House of Representatives on April 6, 2006, neither admitting to nor denying the charge, stating only that: "There should not have been any physical contact in this incident." Minutes before the Congresswoman's apology, McKinney's security officer pushed a TV correspondent outside of the U.S. Capitol.[61]
 
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theFallGuy said:
McKinney gained national attention for remarks she made following the 2001 US attacks, charging that the United States had advance knowledge of the attacks and that US President George W. Bush may have been aware of the incipient attack and allowed them to happen,[17] allegedly due to his father's business interests: "It is known that President Bush's father, through the Carlyle Group, had–at the time of the attacks–joint business interests with the bin Laden construction company and many defense industry holdings, the stocks of which have soared since September 11."
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I don't know why this qualifies her as bat**** or why it would disqualify her from the office of presidency. I'd say candidates hellbent on breaking the bank through war are a lot crazier than somebody who questions Bush II.
 
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theFallGuy said:
On September 28, 2008, at a press conference, McKinney announced that she had spoken with a constituent whose son was a National Guardsman. The constituent claimed her son had disposed of 5,000 bodies for the Department of Defense during the week of Hurricane Katrina. She further believed that there were credible reports that the bodies were prisoners who had all been crushed by tanks, shot in the head, painted blue, and dumped in a Louisiana swamp. McKinney said that the story had been corroborated by anonymous "insider" sources.[55][56]
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K, that is crazy, but it was after Ron Paul endorsed her.
 
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