Rove: Obama's the Guy at the Country Club Holding a Martini Making Snide Comments Abo

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emainvol said:
Now if we can just get the Republican Presidential Task Force, the Republican Senatorial Inner Circle, and the Republican Presidential Roundtable to scrap it, everyone can go to bed happy that the Presidential seal is not being misused.
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what?
 
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MG1968 said:
what?
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they scrapped the seal because it is apparently illegal to use any likeness of the Presidential seal, Republicans were going apes*** about it today, however they apparently forgot about their use of it.
 
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emainvol said:
they scrapped the seal because it is apparently illegal to use any likeness of the Presidential seal, Republicans were going apes*** about it today, however they apparently forgot about their use of it.
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I believe that the head republican DOES have the right to use it.
 
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I would separate the comment from the commentator here.

The comment is a valid expression of a sentiment that many share. The claim that Obama is snooty or intellectually dismissive is not new. I would think many Republicans would say so.

That anyone would quote Karl Rove for anything, however, is dismaying. He is not a good person (politically).
 
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T-TownVol said:
I believe that the head republican DOES have the right to use it.
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Sure, but only if in office, and certainly not for fundraising purposes when not in office.


18 USC Sec. 713 ...
(a) Whoever knowingly displays any printed or other likeness of the great seal of the United States, or of the seals of the President or the Vice President of the United States, or the seal of the United States Senate, or the seal of the United States House of Representatives, or the seal of the United States Congress, or any facsimile thereof, in, or in connection with, any advertisement, poster, circular, book, pamphlet, or other publication, public meeting, play, motion picture, telecast, or other production, or on any building, monument, or stationery, for the purpose of conveying, or in a manner reasonably calculated to convey, a false impression of sponsorship or approval by the Government of the United States or by any department, agency, or instrumentality thereof, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.
(b) Whoever, except as authorized under regulations promulgated by the President and published in the Federal Register, knowingly manufactures, reproduces, sells, or purchases for resale, either separately or appended to any article manufactured or sold, any likeness of the seals of the President or Vice President, or any substantial part thereof, except for manufacture or sale of the article for the official use of the Government of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both
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Republican Presidential Task Force started in 1981 with a similar seal.
Republican Senatorial Inner Circle began in 1979 with a similar seal
Republican Presidential Roundtable began in 1987 with a similar seal

All are involved in fundraising, John McCain is a member of the second.
 
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I prefer "coolly arrogant" over "hopelessly inept".
 
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KB5252 said:
Politicians are what they are.:good!:
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THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE!!
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lawgator1 said:
That anyone would quote Karl Rove for anything, however, is dismaying. He is not a good person (politically).
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His election record indicates otherwise. He's basically the conservative equivalent of Carville/Begala/Stephanopolos.
 
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defaultusername said:
I don't think anyone listens to Rove anymore. The man is sick, sick, sick. Lucky he is not in prison.
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he's not in prison because the Valerie Plame affair is pure trash. Makes Whitewater and Bill's philandering boondoggles look like good practice.
 
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GAVol said:
His election record indicates otherwise. He's basically the conservative equivalent of Carville/Begala/Stephanopolos.
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I didn't mean "good" in the sense of efficient or successful. Clearly Rove is both of those.

I meant in the sense of he's .... malevolent.
 
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truefan said:
Total BS BPV.
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Oh really? A covert operative would try to fast track her husband for the job. Maybe there never was any "yellow cake" but her husbands investigation into it amounted to asking a couple of people what they thought. If you can't see that Plume spouted as much bull as Rove then you obviously are incapable of producing unbiased thoughts.
 
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Plame was also no longer a field agent when she was "outed". Also, the oral report her husband presented completely contradicted the editorials he submitted to the NYT and other news organizations with an axe to grind against the bush admin.
 
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#47
hillary should be in prison for the tyson foods commodities debacle. no doubt. compared to hillary martha stewart was jaywalking. all the polticians get away with tons of crap we could never get away with. just look at ted kennedy.
 
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droski said:
hillary should be in prison for the tyson foods commodities debacle. no doubt. compared to hillary martha stewart was jaywalking. all the polticians get away with tons of crap we could never get away with. just look at ted kennedy.
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You or I would have been convicted of manslaughter! Some people just do not look at it objectively.
 
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KB5252 said:
Oh really? A covert operative would try to fast track her husband for the job. Maybe there never was any "yellow cake" but her husbands investigation into it amounted to asking a couple of people what they thought. If you can't see that Plume spouted as much bull as Rove then you obviously are incapable of producing unbiased thoughts.
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I have no doubt that Plame used her position re: her hsuband landing that assignment, and that further she has been a bit of an opportunist with what happened to her in the "outing.".

But what does that have to do with the administration retaliating against her because of her husband's crying wolf at the wrong time for the administration?

Seems to me you can make an argument that Plame and Wilson were wrong to handle it the way they have after the fact. But that doesn't mean it was kosher for the administration to what it did in the first place.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I have no doubt that Plame used her position re: her hsuband landing that assignment, and that further she has been a bit of an opportunist with what happened to her in the "outing.".

But what does that have to do with the administration retaliating against her because of her husband's crying wolf at the wrong time for the administration?

Seems to me you can make an argument that Plame and Wilson were wrong to handle it the way they have after the fact. But that doesn't mean it was kosher for the administration to what it did in the first place.
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I am not. Just pointing out the BS from both and being objective enough to see fault from repubs. Something truefan can't do.
 
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