Rubio embellished family history, responds

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Al Gore's mom used to sing "Look for the Union Label" to him as a bedtime lullaby about 20 years before the song was written. Politicians do this all the time.
 
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Don't forget he invented the internet
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bamawriter said:
Al Gore's mom used to sing "Look for the Union Label" to him as a bedtime lullaby about 20 years before the song was written. Politicians do this all the time.
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Yeah, but Rubio hoisted that up in all of his speeches and ads and really used it to garner a lot of support. For it to be not true, and for his real story to be just basically what any immigrant story was, changes the dynamic down here a lot.

In part, you really need to understand how big of a deal this is in places like Miami, where being a true Cuban exile from the 1950's is a badge of honor and causes significant splits within the Cuban-American community about how to deal with the current regime.
 
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Obama's parents marched in Selma in 1965 and then decided to have a child that was born in 1961.

sounds pretty similar doesn't it?
 
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lawgator1 said:
Hmmmm ... There's a link in the story to his response. Not good for anyone looking at him as a VP.

Report: Marco Rubio's family story embellishes facts, documents show - OrlandoSentinel.com
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You are DEFINITELY reaching again. That isn't much of an embellishment. To say that Cuba was a place in upheaval even 2 years before Castro's successful revolution is no embellishment at all. To say that they were "exiles" because they could never go back to their homeland is definitely a credible claim.

Interesting the WP would think this is newsworthy but not tens if not hundreds of stories about Obama that could have and should have been pursued.
 
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Wish we had some Miami folks on here to help explain to you how major this story is down below Orlando.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Wish we had some Miami folks on here to help explain to you how major this story is down below Orlando.
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IOW's, the left will once again use a complete inconsequential issue in an attempt to destroy a rising conservative star. Does it not bother you when this kind of stuff goes on LG? I mean did it warm your cockles when the media dug up Bush's 20 year old DUI a few days before the 2000 election? Or maybe his NG record (or fabrications of it)?
 
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And another thing. Obama's ancestors weren't American slaves. There is absolutely NO evidence that either he or his parents were victims of racial discrimination of any sort... yet the media let him sell his choice to associate himself with the struggles of blacks in America. This Ivy League educated kid who had been favored his whole life inserts himself into the black community and that's legit but Rubio who IS a part of the Cuban-American community is somehow not legit because the left has decided to parse words?
 
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sjt18 said:
IOW's, the left will once again use a complete inconsequential issue in an attempt to destroy a rising conservative star. Does it not bother you when this kind of stuff goes on LG? I mean did it warm your cockles when the media dug up Bush's 20 year old DUI a few days before the 2000 election? Or maybe his NG record (or fabrications of it)?
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Rubio's response belies any suggestion that he is being swift-boated here. Again, you need to understand the divisions within the Miami community to really get this as more than just a little bit of a confused memory.

This is akin to campaigning on the notion that your lineage goes back to the Mayflower, were part of the Lewis and Clark expedition, and having it turn out your great grandparents are from the Ukraine and Bulgaria and met at Ellis Island in 1910.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Rubio's response belies any suggestion that he is being swift-boated here. Again, you need to understand the divisions within the Miami community to really get this as more than just a little bit of a confused memory.

This is akin to campaigning on the notion that your lineage goes back to the Mayflower, were part of the Lewis and Clark expedition, and having it turn out your great grandparents are from the Ukraine and Bulgaria and met at Ellis Island in 1910.
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To my point earlier about Gore's mom singing "Look for the Union Label": Gore used that fabrication to indicate that he was raised in a fervently pro-union house. His fib about the song wouldn't be a big deal if it weren't for the fact that his father was avidly anti-union during his stint in the Senate. Gore Sr voted for union-busting measures time after time. So the suggestion that Gore was raised to love unions is a crock.

Rubio, on the other hand, is the child of Cuban immigrants. Whether they came before or after Castro took over matters, certainly. But it does not ultimately change his backstory the way a lie like Gore's did.

Same goes for Obama's lie about his folks marching in Selma. If Obama's parents had truly been involved in the civil rights movement, then it wouldn't be a big deal that they weren't at that particular march. But the truth is that they weren't, so Obama's lie is creating an entire history that never happened.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Rubio's response belies any suggestion that he is being swift-boated here. Again, you need to understand the divisions within the Miami community to really get this as more than just a little bit of a confused memory.

This is akin to campaigning on the notion that your lineage goes back to the Mayflower, were part of the Lewis and Clark expedition, and having it turn out your great grandparents are from the Ukraine and Bulgaria and met at Ellis Island in 1910.
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Is it akin to campaigning as if you share the history of oppression with black Americans when nothing could be further from the truth?

This is Rubio's issue to deal with if Cuban-Americans are so irrational as to care or hold him responsible for it. I am fine with that. That is their issue and choice. In the long haul, I tend to think it will matter more that he really is "one of them" in the sense of culture and experience.

Again, the media let Obama get away with selling himself to blacks as someone who shared their culture and experience... because of nothing but his skin color. He grew up in Hawaii raised by a white mother and grandparents. His early influences were all white liberals or further left. He was favored to get the best educational opportunities and ended up with a house in Chicago worth several million dollars having never held a job more significant than college professor, community organizer, or state senator.


Do you really... really not see how I marvel at you much less the WP making a big issue over Rubio's "embellishment" when Obama's image in black America is a complete fabrication?
 
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Rubio's response:

Rubio outraged by report on family history | Florida Politics | Sun Sentinel blog

After arriving in the United States, they had always hoped to one day return to Cuba if things improved and traveled there several times. In 1961, my mother and older siblings did in fact return to Cuba while my father stayed behind wrapping up the family’s matters in the U.S. After just a few weeks living there, she fully realized the true nature of the direction Castro was taking Cuba and returned to the United States one month later, never to return.

“They were exiled from the home country they tried to return to because they did not want to live under communism. That is an undisputed fact, and to suggest otherwise is outrageous.”
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I was surprised that nobody called Obama out on his "I'm a guy from Southside Chicago" schtick.

a) you're from Hawaii
b) you moved to Chicago after law school and all of a sudden you're all about Chicago area sports
c) you didn't - Michelle did - live on the Southside

It seemed so fake, but he got away with it.
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bamawriter said:
To my point earlier about Gore's mom singing "Look for the Union Label": Gore used that fabrication to indicate that he was raised in a fervently pro-union house. His fib about the song wouldn't be a big deal if it weren't for the fact that his father was avidly anti-union during his stint in the Senate. Gore Sr voted for union-busting measures time after time. So the suggestion that Gore was raised to love unions is a crock.

Rubio, on the other hand, is the child of Cuban immigrants. Whether they came before or after Castro took over matters, certainly. But it does not ultimately change his backstory the way a lie like Gore's did.

Same goes for Obama's lie about his folks marching in Selma. If Obama's parents had truly been involved in the civil rights movement, then it wouldn't be a big deal that they weren't at that particular march. But the truth is that they weren't, so Obama's lie is creating an entire history that never happened.
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The significance of this difference to the Miami community cannot be overstated.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The significance of this difference to the Miami community cannot be overstated.
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Possibly. But the unions didn't care about Gore's lies, and Southern Blacks didn't care about Obama's. The Cubans who will be upset over this probably didn't vote for Rubio, and probably wouldn't in the future.
 
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dreVol said:
I was surprised that nobody called Obama out on his "I'm a guy from Southside Chicago" schtick.

a) you're from Hawaii
b) you moved to Chicago after law school and all of a sudden you're all about Chicago area sports
c) you didn't - Michelle did - live on the Southside

It seemed so fake, but he got away with it.
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what? I know plenty of people who become fans/supporters of new teams when they move.
 
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KiffinKiller said:
what? I know plenty of people who become fans/supporters of new teams when they move.
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And abandon any allegiance to the teams they grew up with? I hope the Titans do well, but the 49ers will always be my team. Or, is he a Sox "fan" because it helps his image? Nobody actually likes the White Sox

I thought it was strange that he presented himself as this guy from the Southside who is not from Chicago and had a privileged up bringing.
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