Rush Limbaugh has passed

[hog88]

I don't think they're extreme left as many label them. They're extreme establishment, with the intent of consolidating and dominating the power structure, damn the law and fundamental rights.

Maybe that does actually make them extreme left.

That does make them extreme left.

 

[05_never_again]

I think they have pulled the wool over your eyes. Of course they are establishment but if not for the 50/50 split in the senate they would be passing extreme gun control legislation, moving to medicare for all and other extreme left wish list bills. We'd already have the $15 mw passed if the senate was 55/45.

That's all stuff they want the progressives in their party to believe.

 

[luthervol]

How else should it have worked?

Trump had the votes, so he won. How should it have "worked better" and denied him the nomination...just not count all the votes?

Republicans with a voice should have been more convincingly vocal in their opposition (at the federal, state, and local levels).

 

[hog88]

True, that needs to be corrected in the next round.

It probably will be but they'll just be replaced with establishment Rs who will move to consolidate power in their own way. Individual rights be damned.

 

[n_huffhines]

Ugh

 

[hog88]

That's all stuff they want the progressives in their party to believe.

Better hope they lose seats in the midterms or they will pass every bit of it.

 

[05_never_again]

Republicans with a voice should have been more convincingly vocal in their opposition (at the federal, state, and local levels).

Were you not paying attention in the 2016 primaries? Republicans fought like hell to deny him the nomination, and their attempts failed. The Republican establishment hated Trump during the primaries, then reluctantly got on board once he had the delegates because they wanted to beat Hillary. Ted Cruz didn't even endorse him at the convention. They did not coalesce around Trump until right before the election.

 

[05_never_again]

Better hope they lose seats in the midterms or they will pass every bit of it.

Republicans will win back the House in 2022. They gained House seats in 2020 despite having a losing Presidential candidate and losing Senate seats.

 

[GVF]

'78. Stratford High in Nashville.
I can remember in 9th grade at East High School sitting out between the two buildings during lunch with a bunch of people passing it around. (daily) Had designated smoking bathrooms where far more than cigarettes was being smoked.

I'd say me, my brother, you (my sister) are basically the same generation. My brother is 2 years in between us. But, I find it odd the difference in beliefs in those 4 year spans even from our family which was very conservative and moderately strict. Me and my classmates from 83 are the more conservative of the 78/79, 81, and 83 crowds. Now, it does vary with us, but in general we are not as loose as my brothers class and certainly not my sisters. And of the 3 of us kids, I'm definitely the most reserved. Dad was very committed to Christian values, and church, but was also very wise and practical. He did not raise us in "religion." The problem I have in these threads, which represent Joe Blow at large, is that so many people cannot separate beliefs from the actual person. The old church adage hate the sin, not the sinner is so applicable to what is going on today. I don't disagree that people like Trump or Pelosi have actions that can be despised. I do disagree that hating them as despicable humans is the answer. In Trump's case specifically, I will not defend his behavior as a professional representative of our government and his office. But, I will argue that he did great things for the public. A public that gets ignored by the majority of both parties in favor of their own wealth and interests. That is why he came to be relevant. And why he was hated. He bucked the system and was not the norm by any means.

 

[GVF]

I do believe the country is in far better hands under Biden than under Trump. Biden wasn't my choice, neither was Bernie. I was looking for someone much younger.

Well, that's our agree to disagree stump. I would rather have endured 4 more years of a child in office that was doing good things and making America affordable, than some idiot that unraveled all that in one week, summarily without remorse, or knowledge, pulled the livelihood out from under thousands and thousands of Americans. Someone on national TV saying they don't even know what they are signing has the wrong job, and was the wrong choice.

 

[apevol]

What impact? He sang in a niche band with one hit...whoop de do...at least with Michael Jackson or Elvis or the Beatles you could make the case for having great societal impact.

Garcia was basically a mediocre singer whose music was only tolerable by people like Bill Walton who would listen while on LSD

He was an extremely important figure in bluegrass and folk. You're some bum on a message board who couldn't entertain or uplift a ****ing 5 year old. Careful assigning worth to justify ********.

 

[volinbham]

in case anyone is interested - here's my university's statement on the nutso tweet from one of our faculty (posted earlier)

UAB President Ray Watts issued a statement condemning the tweet.


“UAB is disgusted and extremely troubled that Sarah Parcak would tweet something so unprofessional and blindly inhumane and cruel. Her poor judgment is completely counter to our shared values as an institution that include integrity and respect. She absolutely does not speak for our university, and we are reviewing the matter,” Watts said.


I certainly don't advocate her firing or suspension or anything. Maybe she'll have to go through some diversity training. (this is her 3rd social media controversy in the last year).

 

[05_never_again]

in case anyone is interested - here's my university's statement on the nutso tweet from one of our faculty (posted earlier)

UAB President Ray Watts issued a statement condemning the tweet.


“UAB is disgusted and extremely troubled that Sarah Parcak would tweet something so unprofessional and blindly inhumane and cruel. Her poor judgment is completely counter to our shared values as an institution that include integrity and respect. She absolutely does not speak for our university, and we are reviewing the matter,” Watts said.


I certainly don't advocate her firing or suspension or anything. Maybe she'll have to go through some diversity training. (this is her 3rd social media controversy in the last year).

It's really important that she not be fired for that - otherwise you fall into the same conduct you criticize from the other side.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

What impact? He sang in a niche band with one hit...whoop de do...at least with Michael Jackson or Elvis or the Beatles you could make the case for having great societal impact.

Garcia was basically a mediocre singer whose music was only tolerable by people like Bill Walton who would listen while on LSD

-Ricky, who is probably a hit at parties.

 

[GVF]

'78. Stratford High in Nashville.
I can remember in 9th grade at East High School sitting out between the two buildings during lunch with a bunch of people passing it around. (daily) Had designated smoking bathrooms where far more than cigarettes was being smoked.

83, Griffin High School, Griffin, GA. Good HS to learn how to get along with others. Pretty good size town. 60/40 demographics which at the time was largely two races, and we were not the majority. And very few issues. We just hung and had a good time. I still have very close friends from back then that were form the other side of the tracks. My dad picked alot of them up and bought them to church. Which is why alot of us knew friendship before we knew color. I don't think it's the same town it was back then. I've been gone for a while and would not go back.

 

[volinbham]

It's really important that she not be fired for that - otherwise you fall into the same conduct you criticize from the other side.

I agree. I'm of the thought that we let dumb people say dumb stuff so it's easier to spot them. Given this is her 3rd time I know that I have no interest in ever working with her in any capacity.

 

[luthervol]

Were you not paying attention in the 2016 primaries? Republicans fought like hell to deny him the nomination, and their attempts failed. The Republican establishment hated Trump during the primaries, then reluctantly got on board once he had the delegates because they wanted to beat Hillary. Ted Cruz didn't even endorse him at the convention. They did not coalesce around Trump until right before the election.

I made it a point to use the term "convincingly". I also made it a point to include state and local. If a party can't convince it's members to not elect something like Trump, then it's not much of a party.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I made it a point to use the term "convincingly". I also made it a point to include state and local. If a party can't convince it's members to not elect something like Trump, then it's not much of a party.

Kamala says "I'm speaking"

 

[05_never_again]

I made it a point to use the term "convincingly". I also made it a point to include state and local. If a party can't convince it's members to not elect something like Trump, then it's not much of a party.

It's curious that you think the legitimate job of a party is to "convince its members" to vote for a certain candidate. Republican voters got behind Trump and, despite the Party's best efforts, couldn't be convinced into supporting someone like Rubio, Cruz, or Kasich. The voters picked the nominee. You find the voters' choice to be abhorrent, so you're like "Well, the Republican Party should have just picked someone else then." That doesn't sound very democratic.

I don't know what more they could have done. You act like he had support from the Party at the beginning. There was even an effort on the convention floor to change the rules and allow the "unbinding" of delegates who were bound to vote for Trump. They did everything they could, right up until the convention, to stop his nomination.

 

[Septic]

If trump was a nazi, he clearly wasnt very good. He sure didnt cancel people they you opened minded communists, i mean liberals do.

He wasn't good at much past inflammatory rhetoric and division, where he was a master.

Trump was the Lane Kiffin of politics, constantly falling forward after suckering people into believing he had talent.

 

[luthervol]

I'd say me, my brother, you (my sister) are basically the same generation. My brother is 2 years in between us. But, I find it odd the difference in beliefs in those 4 year spans even from our family which was very conservative and moderately strict. Me and my classmates from 83 are the more conservative of the 78/79, 81, and 83 crowds. Now, it does vary with us, but in general we are not as loose as my brothers class and certainly not my sisters. And of the 3 of us kids, I'm definitely the most reserved. Dad was very committed to Christian values, and church, but was also very wise and practical. He did not raise us in "religion." The problem I have in these threads, which represent Joe Blow at large, is that so many people cannot separate beliefs from the actual person. The old church adage hate the sin, not the sinner is so applicable to what is going on today. I don't disagree that people like Trump or Pelosi have actions that can be despised. I do disagree that hating them as despicable humans is the answer. In Trump's case specifically, I will not defend his behavior as a professional representative of our government and his office. But, I will argue that he did great things for the public. A public that gets ignored by the majority of both parties in favor of their own wealth and interests. That is why he came to be relevant. And why he was hated. He bucked the system and was not the norm by any means.

You got me and Spacecoast to like the same post......that may be a first. Good job.
I'm the middle of three boys. My older brother is the most conservative and I'm the most liberal.
I've always been fascinated with the characteristics associated with birth order.


We will just always disagree on our views of Trump.

 

[luthervol]

It's curious that you think the legitimate job of a party is to "convince its members" to vote for a certain candidate. Republican voters got behind Trump and, despite the Party's best efforts, couldn't be convinced into supporting someone like Rubio, Cruz, or Kasich. The voters picked the nominee. You find the voters' choice to be abhorrent, so you're like "Well, the Republican Party should have just picked someone else then." That doesn't sound very democratic.

I don't know what more they could have done. You act like he had support from the Party at the beginning. There was even an effort on the convention floor to change the rules and allow the "unbinding" of delegates who were bound to vote for Trump. They did everything they could, right up until the convention, to stop his nomination.

It's more about "convincing" them not to vote for a certain candidate.
Maybe they did almost all that they could, which leaves an even bigger pox on the voters.

 

[samanderson]

RIP

Rush Limbaugh, conservative talk radio pioneer, dead at 70

"I take no pleasure in any man's death, but there have been some obituaries that I enjoyed reading."

Mark Twain

 

[McDad]

good read

Opinion | What liberals never understood about Rush Limbaugh's appeal to conservatives

My first opportunity to read your link. I couldn't when you posted it earlier today.
The author captured some of the endearing qualities Rush shared with his audience while neglecting the controversy.

I appreciate you sharing it with us.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

He wasn't good at much past inflammatory rhetoric and division, where he was a master.

Trump was the Lane Kiffin of politics, constantly falling forward after suckering people into believing he had talent.

lol