Rushing success from the Read Option

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#29
I think the main concern with the running game is the ability to steadily move the ball down field. That's usually the sign of an effective running game, and I haven't seen that very much out of our's. Alot of our big plays seem to happen on reverse and sweeps and that's great, but it doesn't seem to be something you can do repeatedly to eat up clock, control possession, and reliably move the chains, which is what people are usually talking about when they talk about a strong running game in this conference. Also, how many times have we been stopped on crucial 3rd & 1s? It seems like it happens alot more than ever before. I just wonder if we'll ever be able to consistently pick up those tough yards with our linemen always coming out of a 2 point stance.
 
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Cue the azzhat that says, "but it's the zone read, not the read option" The point is, we all know what you meant. :)
 
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It's a myth that you can't run the ball from the spread offense . Don't you guys watch the sec network? Tebow will tell you all about it on Saturday.
 
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#37
#37
I don't understand why everyone thinks the I formation makes running the football easier. Fullback formations are only effective these days when you have a fullback with great hands who can catch the ball out of the backfield AND make quality lead blocks.

Otherwise, when you stick a extra blocker in the backfield you just get more defensive hats in the gaps you want to run through.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Well he was average enough to beat a top 5 team.

Also...

WE DON'T RUN A READ OPTION PEOPLE
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what is it then ? i don't like it,i say get under the center and run it,it doesn't have to be every play,but at least give it a chance first,I'd love to see Hurd or Lane behind a full back,but i am old and that was what worked way back when :)

the Offensive line will get better as the year goes along or at least i hope they will,as will the Defensive line,they have talent,they need the experience and a lot of them need a year of Strength and Conditioning training to play as best as they can in the SEC

but the future is bright
 
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oregonvol said:
I think the main concern with the running game is the ability to steadily move the ball down field. That's usually the sign of an effective running game, and I haven't seen that very much out of our's. Alot of our big plays seem to happen on reverse and sweeps and that's great, but it doesn't seem to be something you can do repeatedly to eat up clock, control possession, and reliably move the chains, which is what people are usually talking about when they talk about a strong running game in this conference. Also, how many times have we been stopped on crucial 3rd & 1s? It seems like it happens alot more than ever before. I just wonder if we'll ever be able to consistently pick up those tough yards with our linemen always coming out of a 2 point stance.
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According to cfbstats.com we've had 10 third and three or less opportunities this year. On 6 of those we ran, and 5 times out of the six got the first down. (On the 4 passing plays, we completed 3; one for a touchdown and 2 more for first downs.) I'm much more concerned with our pathetic first down running.
 
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vol-un-tear said:
I wish they would line up in the I and run it down hill! That appears to fit Worley and Hurd.
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I agree, I would love to see lane/Hurd run with a big FB leading the way. But CBJ is a spread O type of guy, he's gotta establish his system, even though he doesn't have the personnel
 
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Sarms58 said:
I'm still a fan of the I formation and power football...
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Good for you. There are a lot of great old games on youtube where you can watch that sort of football.

But you do realize you can run power with 11 personnel, right? You can lead with a guard and a tight end which is better than having a lead fullback essentially telegraphing the defense as to where the play is going.
 
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governmentmule said:
what is it then ? i don't like it,i say get under the center and run it,it doesn't have to be every play,but at least give it a chance first,I'd love to see Hurd or Lane behind a full back,but i am old and that was what worked way back when :)

the Offensive line will get better as the year goes along or at least i hope they will,as will the Defensive line,they have talent,they need the experience and a lot of them need a year of Strength and Conditioning training to play as best as they can in the SEC

but the future is bright
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Its a power spread. A READ option requires a READ by the qb after the snap which leads to a decision to hand the ball off, pass, or keep it. Worley is very rarely actually READING the defense after the snap which is why he doesnt keep it very often. They are designed runs. And no you dont need a FB. Like the poster above me pointed out, you can pull a guard and use a TE to block...both of which are bigger than FBs.


Auburn runs a read option, Tim Tebow ran a read option at UF. We dont run a read option. We run a spread.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Its a power spread. A READ option requires a READ by the qb after the snap which leads to a decision to hand the ball off, pass, or keep it. Worley is very rarely actually READING the defense after the snap which is why he doesnt keep it very often. They are designed runs. And no you dont need a FB. Like the poster above me pointed out, you can pull a guard and use a TE to block...both of which are bigger than FBs.


Auburn runs a read option, Tim Tebow ran a read option at UF. We dont run a read option. We run a spread.
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Why would coaches say they wish Worley would keep it a little more if he has no say in the play and isn't reading anything. Power spread is from a question the media had at the time of Butch's hire and he liked it. Power spread is not an offense and it really makes no sense other than making what we run sound tough.
 
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thebjd said:
Why would coaches say they wish Worley would keep it a little more if he has no say in the play and isn't reading anything. Power spread is from a question the media had at the time of Butch's hire and he liked it. Power spread is not an offense and it really makes no sense other than making what we run sound tough.
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Where did the coaches say they "wish he would keep it more?"

Worley CAN keep it if its wide open, but he isn't reading the end every play. Power spread IS an offense, many teams run it.
 
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I really don't have much preference of one over the other. Either way, I would prefer a QB that has some wheels. We don't have the talent that Alabama does on the OL to protect a Clausen or Bray, and it will be an easier road back up if we have a QB who defenses have to prepare for; one that can throw as well as make defenders miss when a play breaks down.
 
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