Russia brings the fight to ISIS in Syria!!!

[Rasputin_Vol]

2016

2022

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

So Russia, Syria, Turkey and possibly the Kurds are coming together to talk peace without the US...

Russia Brings Turkey, Syria Together For 1st High-Level Talks Since 2011 | ZeroHedge

But now that it’s clear that Assad isn’t going anywhere and Turkey has been focusing on Kurdish militants in northeast Syria, Ankara has been signaling it wants a rapprochement with Damascus. Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu revealed earlier this year that he briefly met with his Syrian counterpart in October 2021, the first known high-level meeting between the two governments since 2011.

In November, Turkey launched major airstrikes against the US-backed Kurdish-led SDF in northeast Syria over allegations the group was involved in a bombing in Istanbul, which the SDF denies. Turkey has been asking the US and Russia to convince the SDF to withdraw from towns near the Turkish border.

Unhappy with the US efforts to curtail Turkey’s offensive, the SDF has also requested Russia to broker talks with the Syrian government.

Kurdish SDF Asks Russia to Mediate Security Deal With Syria - News From Antiwar.com

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

The US allowed ISIS to grow and fester in hopes of regime change. Bu then the Russians came in and ruined that.

US watched Daesh gaining power, Kerry admits in leaked audio

Wikileaks has released a full audio of U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry's meeting with the Syrian Opposition members at the Dutch Mission of the United Nations on September 22, 2016, where he implied the U.S. initially thought Daesh's growth would weaken the Assad regime.

"And we know that this was growing, we were watching, we saw that Daesh was growing in strength, and we thought Assad was threatened," Kerry said during the meeting.

"We thought, however, we could probably imagine that Assad might then negotiate, but instead of negotiating he got Putin to support him," he said in the audio.

"The reason Russia came in is because ISIL was getting stronger. Daesh was threatening the possibility of going to Damascus at some point and that's why Russia came in. Because they didn't want a Daesh government and they supported Assad. " Kerry said.

 

[Sandman 423]

The US allowed ISIS to grow and fester in hopes of regime change. Bu then the Russians came in and ruined that.

US watched Daesh gaining power, Kerry admits in leaked audio

Wikileaks has released a full audio of U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry's meeting with the Syrian Opposition members at the Dutch Mission of the United Nations on September 22, 2016, where he implied the U.S. initially thought Daesh's growth would weaken the Assad regime.

"And we know that this was growing, we were watching, we saw that Daesh was growing in strength, and we thought Assad was threatened," Kerry said during the meeting.

"We thought, however, we could probably imagine that Assad might then negotiate, but instead of negotiating he got Putin to support him," he said in the audio.

"The reason Russia came in is because ISIL was getting stronger. Daesh was threatening the possibility of going to Damascus at some point and that's why Russia came in. Because they didn't want a Daesh government and they supported Assad. " Kerry said.

And how were we supposed to stop it without getting involved in an issue within another countries borders?

 

[Vol8188]

The US allowed ISIS to grow and fester in hopes of regime change. Bu then the Russians came in and ruined that.

US watched Daesh gaining power, Kerry admits in leaked audio

Wikileaks has released a full audio of U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry's meeting with the Syrian Opposition members at the Dutch Mission of the United Nations on September 22, 2016, where he implied the U.S. initially thought Daesh's growth would weaken the Assad regime.

"And we know that this was growing, we were watching, we saw that Daesh was growing in strength, and we thought Assad was threatened," Kerry said during the meeting.

"We thought, however, we could probably imagine that Assad might then negotiate, but instead of negotiating he got Putin to support him," he said in the audio.

"The reason Russia came in is because ISIL was getting stronger. Daesh was threatening the possibility of going to Damascus at some point and that's why Russia came in. Because they didn't want a Daesh government and they supported Assad. " Kerry said.

Sounding a lot like a double standard here. You’re upset when the US gets involved, and now you’re pretending it’s in some way evil that the US didn’t get involved

 

[dalton_vol]

How naive - ask the Russians how they fared in Afghanistan in the 80's against the ISIS pee wee squad.

ISIS isn't going to be defeated with rockets, bombs and bullets. You can't shoot an ideology to death.

Until the Islamic community rallies against them in an appreciable way nothing is going to change. Killing the leadership just creates a vacuum to be filled by another jihad bent nut.

That will never happen, they all worship the same Allah

 

[jp1]

Sounding a lot like a double standard here. You’re upset when the US gets involved, and now you’re pretending it’s in some way evil that the US didn’t get involved

He was talking out of the right side of his mouth when he said that. Today he is talking out of the left side, so you get the quote above.

 

[Septic]

That will never happen, they all worship the same Allah

In the same way that Southern Baptists and Westboro Baptists worship the same Jesus?

 

[LouderVol]

In the same way that Southern Baptists and Westboro Baptists worship the same Jesus?

you know, you ruined my day. I had almost forgotten those A-holes existed, and then you had to go and remind me.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

In the same way that Southern Baptists and Westboro Baptists worship the same Jesus?

The Savior doesn't hate God's children like the westboro fuggers.

 

[PKT_VOL]

Sounding a lot like a double standard here. You’re upset when the US gets involved, and now you’re pretending it’s in some way evil that the US didn’t get involved

When you are the lone world superpower, foreign policy is a damned if you and damned if you don't conundrum. The world waits for whatever negative outcome or tradeoff, foreseen or unforeseen, then criticizes whatever action was taken or not taken that led to said negative outcome.

 

[Septic]

you know, you ruined my day. I had almost forgotten those A-holes existed, and then you had to go and remind me.

Yeah. I just wonder if most muzzies look at ISIS like most christians look at westboro.

 

[Septic]

The Savior doesn't hate God's children like the westboro fuggers.

Thor?

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Thor?

Not him either.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

And how were we supposed to stop it without getting involved in an issue within another countries borders?

Why was it our business to stop anything? Are we the world police? Did God designate the US to be the defenders of "democracy"?

Why can't we worry ourselves about our own borders?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

When you are the lone world superpower, foreign policy is a damned if you and damned if you don't conundrum.

Then why in the hell do we feel the need to get involved either way? The safe thing to do is let these other "$#!t#01e" countries sort things out o their own, right?

The world waits for whatever negative outcome or tradeoff, foreseen or unforeseen, then criticizes whatever action was taken or not taken that led to said negative outcome.

Oh stop it... the world is NOT waiting for the US to take action.

 

[dalton_vol]

In the same way that Southern Baptists and Westboro Baptists worship the same Jesus?

You've not studied islam then

 

[dalton_vol]

Yeah. I just wonder if most muzzies look at ISIS like most christians look at westboro.

The teachings of allah align more with isis than the teaching of the Bible doea to Westboro.

 

[Septic]

The teachings of allah align more with isis than the teaching of the Bible doea to Westboro.

What's your experience in studying the Korans teachings? Have you read the Old Testament of the Bible? Sounds like Westboro's teachings are perfectly aligned with that.

Just admit that people do shi**y things in the name of religion and move on, no need to try and single out one because it's not your favorite flavor. Christianity has no moral high ground, abandon that argument.

 

[Septic]

You've not studied islam then

Doesn't look like you have either.

 

[volbound1700]

What's your experience in studying the Korans teachings? Have you read the Old Testament of the Bible? Sounds like Westboro's teachings are perfectly aligned with that.

Just admit that people do shi**y things in the name of religion and move on, no need to try and single out one because it's not your favorite flavor. Christianity has no moral high ground, abandon that argument.

1. Islam's conquests of the Byzantine and Sassanid Empires in the 7th Century and Muhammad's assaults on Mecca and murder of Jews tend to align well with ISIS. That was actions by the actual living Prophet of Islam and his successors. You don't see those acts by Jesus or the Apostles. Read about early Islam and the conquests of Arabia and then the Middle East and how infidels were treated.

2. 99% chance your ancestors were Christian and frankly, USA as a society and our version of Democracy, Human Rights, Liberty, etc. are all framed and impacted by Christian principles. Over 60% of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were pastors. I hate the way losers like you today disrespect and crap on our ancestors and their beliefs who did so much to get us at the lifestyle we have today. Yet here we are. Frankly, the lifestyle is starting to collapse around it because we have forgotten everything our ancestors did for us. A lot of our society could be fixed if we looked at our past.

 

[Sandman 423]

Why was it our business to stop anything? Are we the world police? Did God designate the US to be the defenders of "democracy"?

Why can't we worry ourselves about our own borders?

I didn’t say it was. You said we allowed it to happen.

 

[Septic]

1. Islam's conquests of the Byzantine and Sassanid Empires in the 7th Century and Muhammad's assaults on Mecca and murder of Jews tend to align well with ISIS. That was actions by the actual living Prophet of Islam and his successors. You don't see those acts by Jesus or the Apostles. Read about early Islam and the conquests of Arabia and then the Middle East and how infidels were treated.

2. 99% chance your ancestors were Christian and frankly, USA as a society and our version of Democracy, Human Rights, Liberty, etc. are all framed and impacted by Christian principles. Over 60% of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were pastors. I hate the way losers like you today disrespect and crap on our ancestors and their beliefs who did so much to get us at the lifestyle we have today. Yet here we are. Frankly, the lifestyle is starting to collapse around it because we have forgotten everything our ancestors did for us. A lot of our society could be fixed if we looked at our past.

LOL

You want to boil this down to which prophet was the nastiest? Move the goalposts much?

We're talking about atrocities committed by the followers of two scumbag religions. Your flavor holds no high ground, "loser."

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I didn’t say it was. You said we allowed it to happen.

We did allow it. We inserted ourselves into Syria and armed/supported ISIS.

We had no business being over there or intervening.

 

[dalton_vol]

1. Islam's conquests of the Byzantine and Sassanid Empires in the 7th Century and Muhammad's assaults on Mecca and murder of Jews tend to align well with ISIS. That was actions by the actual living Prophet of Islam and his successors. You don't see those acts by Jesus or the Apostles. Read about early Islam and the conquests of Arabia and then the Middle East and how infidels were treated.

2. 99% chance your ancestors were Christian and frankly, USA as a society and our version of Democracy, Human Rights, Liberty, etc. are all framed and impacted by Christian principles. Over 60% of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were pastors. I hate the way losers like you today disrespect and crap on our ancestors and their beliefs who did so much to get us at the lifestyle we have today. Yet here we are. Frankly, the lifestyle is starting to collapse around it because we have forgotten everything our ancestors did for us. A lot of our society could be fixed if we looked at our past.

He's been brainwashed to think that all white ancestors are bad, our founding fathers are bad. Etc... white guilt is strong with him as with many of the board's libs