Saban giving players Vyvanse (amphetamines) (merged)

#27
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Smokey X said:
the drug she talks about is used to treat ADHD and is supposed to be less susceptible to addiction than adderall or ritalin.
granted it doesn't mean you can't get addicted but damn. It's not like athletes are the only ones on campus taking something for ADHD.
seems to be a case of severe overreaction from momma.
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Difference is that a position coach offered or recommended it or rather it just says he was coerced. This likely means position coach instructed the player to visit the team doctor because he thought it would improve his focus. In reality, I'm not sure how you could argue that it's NOT a PED.
 
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Slydell said:
Good highlights of what is probably going on with all NCAA teams.
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This is going on across the nation - in every school. Can't do much about it, but certain lines shouldn't be crossed - like coercing a college athlete into taking Vyvanse. It's a strong drug and easy to get addicted to, especially if you have a steady supply (a subscription).
 
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golfballs said:
I know a guy who played at Bama. He was a backup linebacker and special teamer. He went there to be part of a winning team and knew he wouldn’t make a living playing the game. He wasn’t disgruntled about not starting or being more than he was. Hes smart and does well now. He has no reason to trash Saban, but he does. Says he’s a complete horses ass and if you’re not one of the handful of truly elite players on the team he treats you like a piece of ****.

That kind of environment only works when you’re winning. If he has a few down years it will unravel fast.
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It’s starting to....
 
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Haha at this article.

1) Vyvanse is not "highly addictive." Absurd. Maybe it wasnt good for this young man, but come on...
2) She was never "notified" that her son was on this medicine. Well, is he a man or is he a child? He could notify her if he wanted to. She raised a 20 year old child. And now she's writing this b****y article instead of his father.
3) He's counted the cost of trying to go pro in the NFL and its "too high." Good for him. It isn't for everyone. Maybe he's started to make his own decisions instead of holding mommy's hand.
4) HBCUs. Fine schools, generally. The problem is not that he chose Bama over HBCU. The problem is that SHE chose for him to chase the NFL dream instead of becoming a successful lawyer, doctor, engineer, craftsman... whatever. And though I don't personally understand the desire to segregate, each person can make his own decision. If I was black, I may make that decision. I don't know. If I was uprooted to China I think an American style school would appeal to me.

SHE wanted him to play football and be the best and get a scholarship. SHE wanted him to go to Bama and learn to play under Saban. SHE wanted him to try to make the NFL at all costs his whole life. And now SHE has regrets and blames Saban, Alabama, money, Vyvanse and even white people.

If my momma wrote a public letter like this about me, it would be a cold, cold Christmas.

Cut the cord, woman.
 
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It’s always somebody else’s fault! There’s no internet for us to learn the benefits and hazards for anything.
Seems like the only PEDs of concern are the ones that make our bodies stronger. Don’t know if they still do, but years ago pro golfers used Prozac to keep their nerves under control.
 
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My 12 year old takes Vyvanse for his ADHD. Does wonders for him.

Maybe there's a reason he was given Vyvanse. Maybe the guy has ADHD.

The question is how much was he taking.
 
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You see Frazier's response to his mom's blog post? He doesn't dispute the facts of what she said, but doesn't exactly give it a ringing endorsement either:
“My mother as you can see posted about me on her blog without my permission,” Joshua Frazier said via Twitter. “Yes, most of what she said in the article is true, but those are her words and not mine. The one, who I most trusted betrayed me and she will no longer have access to my life. The program does have issues, that I want to address with them privately, but my mom went ahead and published that article. I love my teammates more than anything and I wanted to do this silently as possible because there are good people that I have met and developed relationships in Bama in the time I had there. And this has nothing to do with the fans more so the program itself. I hope you understand I love Bama, just not the program I signed up to play for. Thank you to everyone, who helped me on my journey.”
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05_never_again said:
You see Frazier's response to his mom's blog post? He doesn't dispute the facts of what she said, but doesn't exactly give it a ringing endorsement either:
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All in all, a measured and classy response by J. Frazier. It seems like his mama was going for the victim route while he was wanting to take the high road...hopefully her outburst won't hurt him in the long run.
 
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05_never_again said:
You see Frazier's response to his mom's blog post? He doesn't dispute the facts of what she said, but doesn't exactly give it a ringing endorsement either:
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He is not playing a victim in that post, nor does he sound bitter at Alabama. What he said sounds pretty reasonable. He feels Alabama's program has some issues but he only wants to address them privately. He is mostly just disappointed with his mom for discussing those issues in her blog.
 
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""And this has nothing to do with the fans more so the program itself. I hope you understand I love Bama, just not the program I signed up to play for. ""

Sounds to me like he isn't happy with Alabama either.
 
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05_never_again said:
You see Frazier's response to his mom's blog post? He doesn't dispute the facts of what she said, but doesn't exactly give it a ringing endorsement either:
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Damn, feel for the young man after reading that. Social media/mainstream media are fertile ground for everything that's wrong with us as a society. Not critical...just chronic
 
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#46
#46
Vyvanse only acts like a stimulant if you don’t have ADHD and its usage is pretty widespread by people who don’t need it.
 
#47
#47
My sister died last year from this drug. It’s literally on her death certificate. It’s nothing to play around with.
 
#48
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Seems like that allegation might be more concerning than tugging a players face mask or ruffling his uniform. Anxious to see the SEC network commentators weigh in on this.
 
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