Sal moves up again..

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CountVolcula said:
Well, you guys say our D was bad because of no talent and give Jancek a break

But you bash Sunseri

Makes perfect sense
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In 2012 we were 110th nationally in total defense, gave up a total of 5656 total yards to go with an average of 6.13 yards per play and 471.3 ypg.

Compare that to 2013, we were 84th in total defense, gave up 5021 total yards, 6.07 yards per play and 418.4 ypg. This is on top of having to play Oregon, Auburn, and a much better Missouri team as well as having a much less prolific offense to help them out.

Also, we had 14 interceptions in 2013 with 4 taken back for a td whereas we had 12 total int's. in 2012 and only 1 taken back. We had 18 sacks in 2013 and 17 in 2012. Not a huge difference these areas, but anyone can tell improvement was made. It's also worth noting we held Connor Shaw, perhaps SCAR's greatest qb in school history, to 7-21 passing and his only interception on the year.

Also, we only had 2 qb's go over 50% completion percentage in Neyland compared to 6 in 2012 (this is only including starting qb's).

Jancek's defense was definitely better.
 
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CountVolcula said:
Well, you guys say our D was bad because of no talent and give Jancek a break

But you bash Sunseri

Makes perfect sense
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We had "some" talent that was best suited for a serviceable 4-3 defense. Shoving a 3-4 scheme on the field without 3-4 talent was stupid and our defensive play and near bottom national ranking proved it was stupid.
 
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PrattvilleVol said:
We had "some" talent that was best suited for a serviceable 4-3 defense. Shoving a 3-4 scheme on the field without 3-4 talent was stupid and our defensive play and near bottom national ranking proved it was stupid.
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Do you think that was Sunseri's decision?
 
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Rockytoptalker said:
In 2012 we were 110th nationally in total defense, gave up a total of 5656 total yards to go with an average of 6.13 yards per play and 471.3 ypg.

Compare that to 2013, we were 84th in total defense, gave up 5021 total yards, 6.07 yards per play and 418.4 ypg. This is on top of having to play Oregon, Auburn, and a much better Missouri team as well as having a much less prolific offense to help them out.

Also, we had 14 interceptions in 2013 with 4 taken back for a td whereas we had 12 total int's. in 2012 and only 1 taken back. We had 18 sacks in 2013 and 17 in 2012. Not a huge difference these areas, but anyone can tell improvement was made. It's also worth noting we held Connor Shaw, perhaps SCAR's greatest qb in school history, to 7-21 passing and his only interception on the year.

Also, we only had 2 qb's go over 50% completion percentage in Neyland compared to 6 in 2012 (this is only including starting qb's).

Jancek's defense was definitely better.
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what were Wilcox's numbers ? yes i said it
 
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Rockytoptalker said:
In 2012 we were 110th nationally in total defense, gave up a total of 5656 total yards to go with an average of 6.13 yards per play and 471.3 ypg.

Compare that to 2013, we were 84th in total defense, gave up 5021 total yards, 6.07 yards per play and 418.4 ypg. This is on top of having to play Oregon, Auburn, and a much better Missouri team as well as having a much less prolific offense to help them out.

Also, we had 14 interceptions in 2013 with 4 taken back for a td whereas we had 12 total int's. in 2012 and only 1 taken back. We had 18 sacks in 2013 and 17 in 2012. Not a huge difference these areas, but anyone can tell improvement was made. It's also worth noting we held Connor Shaw, perhaps SCAR's greatest qb in school history, to 7-21 passing and his only interception on the year.

Also, we only had 2 qb's go over 50% completion percentage in Neyland compared to 6 in 2012 (this is only including starting qb's).

Jancek's defense was definitely better.
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Yea, I saw a vast improvement in our D this past year

It was awesome watching 3 teams combine for 987 yards rushing in consecutive games and giving up the most points ever in one game at Neyland

Its funny how suck in a different flavor is still suck
 
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CountVolcula said:
Yea, I saw a vast improvement in our D this past year

It was awesome watching 3 teams combine for 987 yards rushing in consecutive games and giving up the most points ever in one game at Neyland

Its funny how suck in a different flavor is still suck
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It's funny how you refuse to see what's right in front of you. I'll take some improvement over none at all.
 
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CountVolcula said:
Well, you guys say our D was bad because of no talent and give Jancek a break

But you bash Sunseri

Makes perfect sense
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I still find Tim Chou's formula (considering Jancek was the DC for Butch) interesting and for ALL fan's sake it still will hold true...

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Metric Shows Jones Among Coaching Elite - UTSPORTS.COM - University of Tennessee Athletics
The Metric's Simplicity

The brilliance of Chou's Efficiency Metric lies in its simplicity. To rate the offense and defense separately you just find the quotient of the yards gained or allowed by a team over the total points scored for or against that team and it will give you the efficiency rating. If you want the overall team score, you find both the offensive and defensive ratings and then subtract the offensive rating from the defensive rating, then multiply that number by the team's strength of schedule to get one all-encompassing score.
This works so well because you want your team to have a high number on defense and a low number on offense, therefore when you find the difference between the two it embraces all aspects of the game. If the defense forces a three-and-out, then the punt returner gets some good blocks and has a decent return to give the offense a short field and the offense capitalizes on that opportunity by putting up seven points then that will greatly help your rating because all three phases of the game did their jobs to put points on the board.

What this means is that over the past two years, teams coached by Butch Jones forced their opponents to go 19.92, on average, for every point they scored. When you stretch that out into actual ways to score in football, it would be the equivalent of saying teams had to gain nearly 60 yards (59.76) to score a field goal or almost 140 yards (139.44) for a touchdown and the resulting extra point.

Conversely, teams coached by Jones didn't even have to gain 40 yards (38.22) per field goal, and less than 90 yards (89.18) per touchdown. Then when you get the balance between the two and factor in strength of schedule, you have an overall Team Efficiency Rating of 3.30. Keep in mind that this number can be negative, which the large majority of the NCAA's coaches overall ratings are. For some perspective, Mark Richt, who has ranked very well (15th) over the last two seasons has had an overall efficiency of 0.80, so while 3.30 doesn't seem like a very high number, it's actually good enough to make Butch Jones the fourth most efficient head coach in college football over the last two years.

OVERALL EFFICIENCY
1. Nick Saban 10.01
2. Les Miles 9.33
3. Brian Kelly 3.83
4. Butch Jones 3.30
5. Bill Snyder 3.12
6. David Shaw 3.04
7. Chip Kelly 2.68
8. Bret Bielema 2.35
9. Will Muschamp 2.23
10. Chris Petersen 2.20

DEFENSIVE EFFICIENCY
1. Nick Saban 22.37
2. Brian Kelly 22.22
3. Les Miles 20.76
4. Butch Jones 19.92
5. Chris Petersen 18.84
6. Steve Addazio 18.44
7. Will Muschamp 18.24
8. David Shaw 17.87
9. Dan Mullen 17.64
10. Brady Hoke 17.53
*2011, 2012 Seasons Combined
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CountVolcula said:
If a student goes to Yale or Harvard and gets great grades and another goes to Pellissippi State and gets the same or slightly less grades
Who is the better student?
Would the student at Yale easily accumulate the same GPA at Pellissippi?
Would the Pellissippi State student easily accumulate the same grades at Harvard or Yale?
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ManningBerry#1 said:
So it seems that Sal is now assistant head coach of FSU. Well, they were a good team...

Defensive line coach Sal Sunseri has been promoted to associate head coach, the source confirmed.

He responded 'ya know what I'm saying'
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Only way they could keep him from Ga. Wonder how Odell feels about Sal jumping him as AHC after spending 12+ yrs there.
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#49
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CountVolcula said:
I see that you didn't answer the questions
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IF.....you are in some strange way implying that Butch is a Pellissippi St. student...then you asked a question that was already answered by Chou's list guy...and he has played for a Nat'l Championship already as a Pellissippi St. graduate:

OVERALL EFFICIENCY
1. Nick Saban 10.01
2. Les Miles 9.33
3. Brian Kelly 3.83
4. Butch Jones 3.30
5. Bill Snyder 3.12
6. David Shaw 3.04
7. Chip Kelly 2.68
8. Bret Bielema 2.35
9. Will Muschamp 2.23
10. Chris Petersen 2.20

DEFENSIVE EFFICIENCY
1. Nick Saban 22.37
2. Brian Kelly 22.22
3. Les Miles 20.76
4. Butch Jones 19.92
5. Chris Petersen 18.84
6. Steve Addazio 18.44
7. Will Muschamp 18.24
8. David Shaw 17.87
9. Dan Mullen 17.64
10. Brady Hoke 17.53
*2011, 2012 Seasons Combined
 
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