Sarah Huckabee-Sanders Asked to Leave Restaurant

I've been thinking about this and have changed my mind. It was morally wrong of the owner to refuse her service. Not illegal, I don't think. But if we start slicing courtesy too thinly like this its going to be counterproductive in the long run.


And in a very real sense, the owner is doing the same thing Trump does when he acts against her in protest of Trump. It would have been better to serve her and take good care of her and then as she left ask if she minded talking a little politics, unofficially, and let her know that you are disturbed by the trend you are seeing and that you hope the administration will change course soon.


If she doesn't want to hear it, that's fine. But it has a much better chance of making a lasting point than asking them to leave.
 
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It's a sad day in America when a WH press secretary has to have secret service protection. Unbelievable.
Next thing you know, we will sink to new lows having a President who mocks the disabled, attacks POWs, criticizes Gold Star families, bullies numerous women, immigrants, and minorities, encourages violence against citizen dissenters, and thinks of catchy little childish names for his political opponents. :blink:
 
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I've been thinking about this and have changed my mind. It was morally wrong of the owner to refuse her service. Not illegal, I don't think. But if we start slicing courtesy too thinly like this its going to be counterproductive in the long run.

And in a very real sense, the owner is doing the same thing Trump does when he acts against her in protest of Trump. It would have been better to serve her and take good care of her and then as she left ask if she minded talking a little politics, unofficially, and let her know that you are disturbed by the trend you are seeing and that you hope the administration will change course soon.

If she doesn't want to hear it, that's fine. But it has a much better chance of making a lasting point than asking them to leave.
I don't think it was really immoral, but I just don't get what people think stuff like that accomplishes; especially when somebody tweets what happened as if it was going to be a good look for them. They have to know that they serve people they disagree with all the time.
 
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Next thing you know, we will sink to new lows having a President who mocks the disabled, attacks POWs, criticizes Gold Star families, bullies numerous women, immigrants, and minorities, encourages violence against citizen dissenters, and thinks of catchy little childish names for his political opponents. :blink:

What difference does that really make though? I get that the climate comes from the top in some ways, but even if you believe the President is worthless, as an adult don't we have a little more responsibility and accountability? I'm around a-holes all the time. That doesn't mean I should feel like I've got a license to act like an a-hole.
 
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I don't think it was really immoral, but I just don't get what people think stuff like that accomplishes; especially when somebody tweets what happened as if it was going to be a good look for them. They have to know that they serve people they disagree with all the time.



Immoral in the sense it was hypocritical.

As to her getting secret service protection that seems silly and wasteful and designed to score cheap political points with the base.
 
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Immoral in the sense it was hypocritical.

As to her getting secret service protection that seems silly and wasteful and designed to score cheap political points with the base.

I really wonder if SS protection is a matter of public record. Seems like they'd keep that.... secret.
 
Hard to tell when an apology is genuine. But when someone refuses to apologize or correct what they've done, I think that shows they stand by what they did and endorse it further.
I guess I just don't believe any public figure that in this day and age that spouts off complete bull**** and then offers up an apology. I'd have more respect if they would just own it. Of course I haven't heard any apologies from Peter Fonda or Deniro either, but I guess what they said is OK....
 
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You guys don't get that the current Left did more to damage their party this past weekend than you can imagine. Between this thing with Red Hen, which is their rights to refuse service, and then Maxine's little speech you guys just can't get out of your own way.

YOU DONT GET IT!

This isn't pro Trump, it's people sick of the Left's overwhelmingly acceptance of identity politics, constantly being offended over nothing and having it being shoved down our throats and expect people to take it as gospel.
 
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You guys don't get that the current Left did more to damage their party this past weekend than you can imagine. Between this thing with Red Hen, which is their rights to refuse service, and then Maxine's little speech you guys just can't get out of your own way.

YOU DONT GET IT!

This isn't pro Trump, it's people sick of the Left's overwhelmingly acceptance of identity politics, constantly being offended over nothing and having it being shoved down our throats and expect people to take it as gospel.
shhhhhhhhhhhh please. You might hurt some feelz
 
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You guys don't get that the current Left did more to damage their party this past weekend than you can imagine. Between this thing with Red Hen, which is their rights to refuse service, and then Maxine's little speech you guys just can't get out of your own way.

YOU DONT GET IT!

This isn't pro Trump, it's people sick of the Left's overwhelmingly acceptance of identity politics, constantly being offended over nothing and having it being shoved down our throats and expect people to take it as gospel.

Looks like lg is starting to understand that. He needed a few days for the Democratic talking points to convince him to stop being a social terrorist. He was defending this whole thing of refusing service and spittle-screaming in women's faces until the Dem party started seeing the cultural backlash and suddenly (finally) developed consciences.

Oh, and now the lefty bloggers are calling for 70s-era bombings.

They really have a screaming case of the "cant-help-its".
 
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Not when the play's the thing.

You're a peach, lg.

We have lefties spittle-screaming at admin woman and her husband in a movie theater, Maxine calling for social actions against Trump's people letting them know they're not welcome in society, lefty bloggers promising 70s-era bombings, and you snark that assigning secret service agents to the administration is somehow a political ploy that's republican fault.

A real peach, I tell ya'.
 
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You guys don't get that the current Left did more to damage their party this past weekend than you can imagine. Between this thing with Red Hen, which is their rights to refuse service, and then Maxine's little speech you guys just can't get out of your own way.

YOU DONT GET IT!

This isn't pro Trump, it's people sick of the Left's overwhelmingly acceptance of identity politics, constantly being offended over nothing and having it being shoved down our throats and expect people to take it as gospel.

this
 
You're a peach, lg.

We have lefties spittle-screaming at admin woman and her husband in a movie theater, Maxine calling for social actions against Trump's people letting them know they're not welcome in society, lefty bloggers promising 70s-era bombings, and you snark that assigning secret service agents to the administration is somehow a political ploy that's republican fault.

A real peach, I tell ya'.

Peach Pit......
 
Looks like lg is starting to understand that. He needed a few days for the Democratic talking points to convince him to stop being a social terrorist. He was defending this whole thing of refusing service and spittle-screaming in women's faces until the Dem party started seeing the cultural backlash and suddenly (finally) developed consciences.

Oh, and now the lefty bloggers are calling for 70s-era bombings.

They really have a screaming case of the "cant-help-its".

once he read Chuck Schumer's response, it was okay for him to not defend it anymore
 
You guys don't get that the current Left did more to damage their party this past weekend than you can imagine. Between this thing with Red Hen, which is their rights to refuse service, and then Maxine's little speech you guys just can't get out of your own way.

YOU DONT GET IT!

This isn't pro Trump, it's people sick of the Left's overwhelmingly acceptance of identity politics, constantly being offended over nothing and having it being shoved down our throats and expect people to take it as gospel.




Preach it, brother! We hate identity politics!


-- signed, the good Nazis of Charlottesville
 
You're a peach, lg.

We have lefties spittle-screaming at admin woman and her husband in a movie theater, Maxine calling for social actions against Trump's people letting them know they're not welcome in society, lefty bloggers promising 70s-era bombings, and you snark that assigning secret service agents to the administration is somehow a political ploy that's republican fault.

A real peach, I tell ya'.




I'm still waiting on the surveillance video of that.
 
Preach it, brother! We hate identity politics!


-- signed, the good Nazis of Charlottesville

You act like those idiots in Charlottesville are the voice of the Right.

I guess Trump is a pretty ****ty NAZI considering his son in law and daughter are Jews and he helped get 3 black kids out of a 10 year prison camp sentence in China.
 
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You act like those idiots in Charlottesville are the voice of the Right.

I guess Trump is a pretty ****ty NAZI considering his son in law and daughter are Jews and he helped get 3 black kids out of a 10 year prison camp sentence in China.

Not all racists are good at being racist. Just ask Clayton Bigsby. He truly was a cautionary tale.
 
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You act like those idiots in Charlottesville are the voice of the Right.

I guess Trump is a pretty ****ty NAZI considering his son in law and daughter are Jews and he helped get 3 black kids out of a 10 year prison camp sentence in China.




You missed my larger point, which is that the GOP and the right engage in identity politics just as much as the Dems and the left.


People seem more than happy to object to it when it is their side being painted with an unreasonably broad brush, and happier still to turn around and do the exact same thing in reverse.
 
You missed my larger point, which is that the GOP and the right engage in identity politics just as much as the Dems and the left.


People seem more than happy to object to it when it is their side being painted with an unreasonably broad brush, and happier still to turn around and do the exact same thing in reverse.

Technically, those identity politic guys that you call Nazis are way more in line politically with the socialist world your side wants so badly.

Just saying...
 
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