#savethechildren

[n_huffhines]

This movement is all over social media and it's unlike anything I've ever seen. So many people are suddenly about it and there seems to be a total lack of understanding about the issue. The truth is only 115 kids are abducted by a stranger each year in the US. The commonly shared statistic on social media is that 800k kids go missing each year. Both stats come from the same source (National Center for Missing and Exploited Children). Human trafficking is obviously a problem in the US, I'm not trying to say otherwise. I'm just saying we should all sleep well knowing that the likelihood of somebody snatching up our children is very low. The disgusting reality is that minors are most often trafficked by someone they know (parents, Uncle, brother, boyfriend, etc.).

This is the NCMEC's most recent data:



The NCMEC claims that 1/6 runaways are victims of trafficking, but they don't distinguish minors who runaway from their homes because they are being trafficked from minors who are trafficked after running away.

Understanding the nature of the problem is vital to solving it and fearmongering is probably going to result in misguided responses and policy.

 

[615vols]

Sounds like the false narrative that blacks are being hunted down or targeted by police. Look up the stats on unarmed blacks killed by police and compare it to the narrative portrayed by the media and gullible folks on Twitter. Talk about fear monger info and misguided policies...take a good look around the country.

 

[n_huffhines]

Sounds like the false narrative that blacks are being hunted down or targeted by police. Look up the stats on unarmed blacks killed by police and compare it to the narrative portrayed by the media and gullible folks on Twitter. Talk about fear monger info and misguided policies...take a good look around the country.

ok

 

[jaybird_1981]

So are you saying children are more likely to die from Covid than being abducted? Please advise I need to know what to be afraid of.

 

[LouderVol]

This movement is all over social media and it's unlike anything I've ever seen. So many people are suddenly about it and there seems to be a total lack of understanding about the issue. The truth is only 115 kids are abducted by a stranger each year in the US. The commonly shared statistic on social media is that 800k kids go missing each year. Both stats come from the same source (National Center for Missing and Exploited Children). Human trafficking is obviously a problem in the US, I'm not trying to say otherwise. I'm just saying we should all sleep well knowing that the likelihood of somebody snatching up our children is very low. The disgusting reality is that minors are most often trafficked by someone they know (parents, Uncle, brother, boyfriend, etc.).

This is the NCMEC's most recent data:

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The NCMEC claims that 1/6 runaways are victims of trafficking, but they don't distinguish minors who runaway from their homes because they are being trafficked from minors who are trafficked after running away.

Understanding the nature of the problem is vital to solving it and fearmongering is probably going to result in misguided responses and policy.

No time for rational thought. Over reacting is the only solution.

Until/unless you fix social media, and the news media in general you are going to have this issue. You play up the scariest stats while downplaying any that might challenge the view you want.

 

[n_huffhines]

So are you saying children are more likely to die from Covid than being abducted? Please advise I need to know what to be afraid of.

Let's stay on topic, people.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

I am going to leave my doors unlocked again.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

@n_huffhines Do you remember your parents showing you all of the missing children on the back of milk cartons growing up? Assuming we are close to the same age.

 

[05_never_again]

This movement is all over social media and it's unlike anything I've ever seen. So many people are suddenly about it and there seems to be a total lack of understanding about the issue. The truth is only 115 kids are abducted by a stranger each year in the US. The commonly shared statistic on social media is that 800k kids go missing each year. Both stats come from the same source (National Center for Missing and Exploited Children). Human trafficking is obviously a problem in the US, I'm not trying to say otherwise. I'm just saying we should all sleep well knowing that the likelihood of somebody snatching up our children is very low. The disgusting reality is that minors are most often trafficked by someone they know (parents, Uncle, brother, boyfriend, etc.).

This is the NCMEC's most recent data:

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The NCMEC claims that 1/6 runaways are victims of trafficking, but they don't distinguish minors who runaway from their homes because they are being trafficked from minors who are trafficked after running away.

Understanding the nature of the problem is vital to solving it and fearmongering is probably going to result in misguided responses and policy.

As callous as this might sound to say, the social media movement about this (like basically all social media movements) is virtue signaling and slacktivism. It's a terrible thing, but it hardly ever happens. Particularly the stock childhood abduction for purposes of getting a ransom story. News, by definition, covers and focuses on rare events.

If you don't do the IG post and hashtag everyone else is doing on a particular day, then that must mean you either don't give a s**t about the issue in question or support an opposing viewpoint. And lots of people, social media "influencers" in particular, don't want to be perceived that way so they post about it.

Handwringing about child abduction became a thing in the 80s, when cable news (a relatively new concept at the time like social media is today) realized there were big ratings in covering child abductions and missing persons cases. Researchers like Jonathan Haidt think that factor alone contributed to the different parenting styles Millennials experienced relative to other generations; Millennials on average had far less unsupervised time as kids than the generations before them. There was a rather precipitous drop in the overall level of crime, particularly violent crime, that began in the early 90s and has persisted since then, but when you survey people on what their perception of the overall level of crime is, a majority of people think that crime has increased. It's the media.

 

[Mick]

So are you saying children are more likely to die from Covid than being abducted? Please advise I need to know what to be afraid of.

Are you a child?

 

[jaybird_1981]

Are you a child?

Why would you attempt to kidnap me?

 

[Septic]

Why would you attempt to kidnap me?

What's the opposite of kidnap?

 

[hog88]

What's the opposite of kidnap?

 

[TNVOLNAVY]

Kinda blows the leftist mantra of “If it only saves one life”

 

[jaybird_1981]

What's the opposite of kidnap?

*insert gender pronoun*nap?

 

[n_huffhines]

@n_huffhines Do you remember your parents showing you all of the missing children on the back of milk cartons growing up? Assuming we are close to the same age.

It was still a thing when I was a kid, but my Dad is an economist and so in many cases, they parented based off data. They taught us about stranger danger, but it was not a big focus in our house at all. We were totally free range. I'd be gone for 4 hours on my bike at age 6, and they wouldn't know exactly where I was and that was fine.

My Mom scared us with other stuff, like communism and drugs.

 

[n_huffhines]

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Good points and good post huff. Seems like the only thing that matters right now is COVID. There are many, many issues far more important going on and child safety should be at or near the top of the list.

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

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Good lord.

 

[joevol33]

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

It was still a thing when I was a kid, but my Dad is an economist and so in many cases, they parented based off data. They taught us about stranger danger, but it was not a big focus in our house at all. We were totally free range. I'd be gone for 4 hours on my bike at age 6, and they wouldn't know exactly where I was and that was fine.

My Mom scared us with other stuff, like communism and drugs.

.....and the gays. She never told you things like the gays were out running around & would kidnap young children out riding their bikes in the hood.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

.....and the gays. She never told you things like the gays were out running around & would kidnap young children out riding their bikes in the hood.

...

Is that what your mom told you?

 

[DancingOutlaw]

It was still a thing when I was a kid, but my Dad is an economist and so in many cases, they parented based off data. They taught us about stranger danger, but it was not a big focus in our house at all. We were totally free range. I'd be gone for 4 hours on my bike at age 6, and they wouldn't know exactly where I was and that was fine.

My Mom scared us with other stuff, like communism and drugs.

Killer Legends is a good documentary about that stuff. How singular events (primarily perpetrated by parents or someone the victim knew) turned into urban legends about strangers committing horrible crimes that subsequently terrified masses of people. When I was 8 I was given a .22 and the run of a 80ac farm with zero supervision. I also wandered on to other farms to fish or shoot. No one thought anything of it. Now if my kid takes her bike into the culdesac 25 yards from our house my wife needs to monitor her or I get voluntold to do so. So I sit and watch her ride circles 15 feet away from me thinking at her age I was fishing the Holston alone with my only orders being don't drown and return to the house by dark.

 

[Ten_Titans]

This movement is all over social media and it's unlike anything I've ever seen. So many people are suddenly about it and there seems to be a total lack of understanding about the issue. The truth is only 115 kids are abducted by a stranger each year in the US. The commonly shared statistic on social media is that 800k kids go missing each year. Both stats come from the same source (National Center for Missing and Exploited Children). Human trafficking is obviously a problem in the US, I'm not trying to say otherwise. I'm just saying we should all sleep well knowing that the likelihood of somebody snatching up our children is very low. The disgusting reality is that minors are most often trafficked by someone they know (parents, Uncle, brother, boyfriend, etc.).

This is the NCMEC's most recent data:

View attachment 299289

The NCMEC claims that 1/6 runaways are victims of trafficking, but they don't distinguish minors who runaway from their homes because they are being trafficked from minors who are trafficked after running away.

Understanding the nature of the problem is vital to solving it and fearmongering is probably going to result in misguided responses and policy.

As far as I can tell, the human trafficking movements started when Taken with Liam Neeson came out, and never went away.

Fearful protective mothers mixed in with a lot of deliberate confusion about what "human trafficking" is by definition, and this is the result.

I do find it amusing you've found a movement with no statistical support that concerns you. Only 3 months late on that one bro.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Killer Legends is a good documentary about that stuff. How singular events (primarily perpetrated by parents or someone the victim knew) turned into urban legends about strangers committing horrible crimes that subsequently terrified masses of people. When I was 8 I was given a .22 and the run of a 80ac farm with zero supervision. I also wandered on to other farms to fish or shoot. No one thought anything of it. Now if my kid takes her bike into the culdesac 25 yards from our house my wife needs to monitor her or I get voluntold to do so. So I sit and watch her ride circles 15 feet away from me thinking at her age I was fishing the Holston alone with my only orders being don't drown and return to the house by dark.

Same here... we ran the neighborhood all day. Walked about a mile to Old Hickory lake to fish or a mile in the opposite direction to fish in the Cumberland..... rode our bikes everywhere