Saw the espn e60 profile with Arian foster

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He didn't have a lot of positive things to say about tn. His mother even talked about going on to message boards and let it be know who she was. They spoke like he should've been revered as some peyton manning like figure here. The reality was that while here Arian flat out lost a couple games for us with terrible fumbles. And as a fan...it just seemed like he didn't care very much. He was also a key player on a couple of teams that started out ranked highly and ended up unranked. The show did change my perception of him a little though. He's a good guy and I certainly wish him nothing but the best. What say u?
 
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many things were blown out of proportion by fans while he was at UT (and apparently still are).
 
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The guy would be UT's all-time leading rusher if not for the terrible offense he was in his last season. You would think people would be more appreciative. Fans often berade guys, and then wonder why they don't have more positive things to say about the program.
 
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bhuff_32 said:
The guy would be UT's all-time leading rusher if not for the terrible offense he was in his last season. You would think people would be more appreciative. Fans often berade guys, and then wonder why they don't have more positive things to say about the program.
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Yeh...that clawfense hurt our program bad.

Still havent recovered.
 
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Many, many productive plays. A couple of costly mistakes... Sounds like football to me.

Too many great players, post national championship, will never get their due, as fan expectations settled at "national championship or bust". Many cannot appreciate their accomplishments, and that is sad
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
Many, many productive plays. A couple of costly mistakes... Sounds like football to me.

Too many great players, post national championship, will never get their due, as fan expectations settled at "national championship or bust". Many cannot appreciate their accomplishments, and that is sad
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Well put
 
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I'm sorry but it comes with the territory. He sounded like a victim the entire episode. He needed to man up and move on. But no, he sounds bitter and cheated. His mother gets on a message board? She has no idea who she is responding too. It might be a troll or some loser with nothing better to do. He said he left after his last game without completing the semester. How mature. The guy needs to grow up along with his mom.
 
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I think it's interesting how while at UT his Fumble to Carry ratio was one of the best ever (IIRC) - yet many fans talk about him like he was a turnover machine. I wish him the best, and hope that his opinion of UT is not soured by a few of the "legions of the miserable".
 
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utvolpj said:
many things were blown out of proportion by fans while he was at UT (and apparently still are).
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Truth . . . A lot of it also was that Arian has an offbeat sense of humor that just didn't play well with some fans. instead of the typical canned athlete responses about "one game at a time" and team and giving 110%, he talked about opening a philosophy store and spoke pterodactyl in response to cliched questions. It's a well known fact that the pterodactyl language cannot be translated to redneckanese.
 
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bhuff_32 said:
The guy would be UT's all-time leading rusher if not for the terrible offense he was in his last season. You would think people would be more appreciative. Fans often berade guys, and then wonder why they don't have more positive things to say about the program.
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Didn't his first rushing touchdown come in the ninth game of the season that year?
 
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I didn't care for how he came across in that show, either. He didn't take responsibility for the fumbles that caused fans to feel the way they did about him. He acted like there was no reason any UT fan shouldn't have worshipped him.

The truth is, for all of his accomplishments at UT, I always felt like he underachieved -- like he never played up to his potential. Then he goes to the NFL and is immediately an all-pro. Only reinforces that perception. I don't dislike the guy, but don't act like UT fans don't have any reason to be disappointed with some of what happened while he was here.
 
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He cost us at least 1 win per year with his untimely fumbles. Can't say he's one of my favorites...Fumblin' Foster!
 
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The guy was a flake. Remember the pterodactyl crap?
Yes, he had some costly fumbles, and he was part of the reason for the terrible year that cost Fulmer. He only needed like 400 yards to set the all-time UT rushing record, and couldn't do it. He's a fruit loop and the guy will be forgotten in a year or two.
 
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I agree that the whole fumbling thing got blown out of proportion and maybe still is.

I don't think that gives him a right to talk down about the university and fans on national TV. I'm pretty sure he got a free education. I'd would have loved to just wear the uniform.
 
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Sympathy well has run dry for me. I posted on the scout site back when he was playing for us. Posters there were almost always respectful to Fostermom, even when she was being super-defensive. He caught a lot of flack for some crucial fumbles, which should've been expected...and it's not anybody's job to try and understand pterydactyl voice meltdowns. Handling bad situations in weird, unrelatable ways doesn't exactly win any fans over.

I'm starting to wonder when the millions he makes will ease some of the bitterness he and his mom hold towards us. Hell, he's probably one of those people who needs to stay bitter about something to stay motivated.
 
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tsvol06 said:
I agree that the whole fumbling thing got blown out of proportion and maybe still is.

I don't think that gives him a right to talk down about the university and fans on national TV. I'm pretty sure he got a free education. I'd would have loved to just wear the uniform.
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If I were him I would be upset too. He played hard in a tough time for the university, returned for his senior season when he didn't have to and ran for a butt ton of yards and get dogged by a lot of our fans.

He ran for more yards than Webb or Cobb or Lewis and all those other RBs that those same fans idolize and gets less than half the praise.

When I think of Arian I am reminded of plays like when he took it 65-70 yards to the house against LSU in the SEC championship game, not some fumble. His fumbles did not decide the outcome of any games....period.
 
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Bjorn_Yesterday said:
Disagree. His redzone fumble cost us the Penn State game.
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There was like 10 minutes left in the game, it was tied and Ainge also had thrown a pick. Arian can't help that they took that fumble all the way back either. Our entire offense cost us that game.
 
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Bjorn_Yesterday said:
Disagree. His redzone fumble cost us the Penn State game.
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No one play causes a loss, just like a bad call does not cause a loss. There were other drives that ended up in 0 points that game. Other drives where the defense didn't get the stop, etc. Inopportune? Yeah, but never the cause of a loss.

Off topic a bit, but people blame the 2007 SECCG loss on Ainge. However, they forget that Lincoln missed 3 field goals that game. Same goes for Foster. If he fumbled EVERY time he got the ball, or every time in the red zone, I'd agree. But he didn't.
 
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BigBadVol said:
I'm sorry but it comes with the territory. He sounded like a victim the entire episode. He needed to man up and move on. But no, he sounds bitter and cheated. His mother gets on a message board? She has no idea who she is responding too. It might be a troll or some loser with nothing better to do. He said he left after his last game without completing the semester. How mature. The guy needs to grow up along with his mom.
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This. Arian needs to stop whining. Sounds like he was more worried about what the fans thought about him than going out on the field and putting in work. And I love the revisionist history on the board seeing as though he is looked at as an elite RB on the NFL level. But Arian had a fumbling problem, that's one of the reasons all of the pro scouts whiffed on him as well. Everyone with 2 eyes saw that Arian needed a lot of work to be successful in the league. And to his credit he worked his butt off and succeeded.

My question to Arian is why wait until you leave Tennessee to display this sort of passion?

As for the message board noise, who cares? It's nameless faceless people on the internet. Like the above poster said, who's to say someone posting disparaging comments about a player is even a fan. His mom should have seen how effortless it was to start a user account when she started her own and recognize not everyone has the program's best interest in mind.

Way to stereotype a fanbase, Arian's mom!

Anyone worried what nameless faceless people think about them on the internet have deeper seeded issues than being booed. Arian and his mom need to step off trying to be martyrs and move on. Seeing as though they like message boards I hope they read this thread, post,etc.

And to Arian's defense the Clawfence was horrible and ultimately cost a long tenured championship winning coach his job. So while Arian's draft status was hurt, another guy lost his job. It's a business, regardless of where you play. If you win, you are cheered. If you lose, cost a team games,etc. you are booed. Pretty simple concept.
 
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I pretty much agree with what's been said about the fumbles being blown up a little bit, and definitely with him having an off beat sense of humor. To be honest, if I was coach and he was talking pterodactyl to the press, we'd have a problem. That comes across as being a smart alec. Also, I don't think that he had a fumbling problem as in quantity, but you can't argue that a couple of those killed us at key moments in the game.

Anyways, I watched it as well (the e60), and it was really good. Though he did some things that came across wrong, I feel bad so many of us dogged him when he really was a good running back. He's genuinely a good guy, and we should be thankful that he came back his senior year when he didn't have to, even though it didn't work out. I noticed though, with Arian's "me against the world" mentality, it came across like everyone who has ever said a cross word is the bad guy, especially with his mom (which I understand cause I know how mom's are). It seemed at first like he could never be in the wrong, and it was always the coach's or someone else's fault. Add that in with his unique personality and it looked like during his senior year he didn't care or try. In reality though, he obviously did care by coming back his senior year and he was frustrated because of how he was being used in the offense. As you can see now, though, he is a heckuva football player, as Fulmer would say, a good husband and dad, and I wish him the best at what he does.
 
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sanddune50 said:
This. Arian needs to stop whining. Sounds like he was more worried about what the fans thought about him than going out on the field and putting in work. And I love the revisionist history on the board seeing as though he is looked at as an elite RB on the NFL level. But Arian had a fumbling problem, that's one of the reasons all of the pro scouts whiffed on him as well. Everyone with 2 eyes saw that Arian needed a lot of work to be successful in the league. And to his credit he worked his butt off and succeeded.

My question to Arian is why wait until you leave Tennessee to display this sort of passion?

As for the message board noise, who cares? It's nameless faceless people on the internet. Like the above poster said, who's to say someone posting disparaging comments about a player is even a fan. His mom should have seen how effortless it was to start a user account when she started her own and recognize not everyone has the program's best interest in mind.

Way to stereotype a fanbase, Arian's mom!

Anyone worried what nameless faceless people think about them on the internet have deeper seeded issues than being booed. Arian and his mom need to step off trying to be martyrs and move on. Seeing as though they like message boards I hope they read this thread, post,etc.

And to Arian's defense the Clawfence was horrible and ultimately cost a long tenured championship winning coach his job. So while Arian's draft status was hurt, another guy lost his job. It's a business, regardless of where you play. If you win, you are cheered. If you lose, cost a team games,etc. you are booed. Pretty simple concept.
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Yeah I pretty much agree with this. They seemed pretty whiny during the show, of course keep in mind the show is made to look really dramatic. I applaud him on his work, but it seemed his mom and him blew some things out of proportion as much as we did.
 
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Bjorn_Yesterday said:
Sympathy well has run dry for me. I posted on the scout site back when he was playing for us. Posters there were almost always respectful to Fostermom, even when she was being super-defensive. He caught a lot of flack for some crucial fumbles, which should've been expected...and it's not anybody's job to try and understand pterydactyl voice meltdowns. Handling bad situations in weird, unrelatable ways doesn't exactly win any fans over.

I'm starting to wonder when the millions he makes will ease some of the bitterness he and his mom hold towards us. Hell, he's probably one of those people who needs to stay bitter about something to stay motivated.
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His sister posted on the ESPN boards and everyone was very respectful to her as well. Which by the way wasn't hard, because she was always more than fair with her assessments and was easy to engage in discussions without becoming defensive. I remember her being on the boards even after Arian signed on with the Texans and everyone wished her(I want to say mstina?) and Arian well.

So I never personally saw the disrespect that I keep hearing about in regards to Arian.
 
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