Schaeffer update

#29
#29
Remember, he was a freshman splitting time with another player.

If he had taken all the snaps that season, we wouldn't think he's "average."
 
#30
#30
(VolinArizona @ Aug 4 said:
Remember, he was a freshman splitting time with another player.

If he had taken all the snaps that season, we wouldn't think he's "average."
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Yeah, but since he didn't take all the snaps, and got beat out, I still think he's "average." Or maybe less than average.
 
#31
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(Jasongivm6 @ Aug 4 said:
Yeah, but since he didn't take all the snaps, and got beat out, I still think he's "average." Or maybe less than average.
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I would have loved to have had an average QB last year.
 
#35
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(kptvol @ Aug 4 said:
Schaeffer's problem was idiotic play calling. Every time he was put into the game, the first play was some sort of designed QB scramble. Which of course, when an athletic QB like BS comes into the game, you know the defenseive coordinator immediately tells his guys to watch for the QB to run. Thus, his first down runs usually resulted in a loss. That put them in a hole and just started off most of his series with negative momentum. I really think Schaeffer could have been good had we given him the right opportunities and adjusted our offense a little to accommodate his unique skills.. Honestly, his scrambling abilities alone would have probably gotten him some starts last year.
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Was thinking the same thing. ppl fail to realize or fail to admit what you just stated. I also think it's pretty crazy how john adams on sports talk had the gumption to say that JC didn't have the mental part of the game YET! to beat out EA. The funny thing is, when it came to BS- Adams and his ilk were and are quick to say that "Schaeffer COULDN'T pick up the vols offense." why the double standard? Crompton has had 2 full years to learn the system + i think he participated in the spring before his freshman yr, and he still doesn't know the offense? I just think ppls prejudice spills out when they speak on certain topics. BS got the s#$% end of the stick his freshman yr in my opinion, but thats neither here nor there. EA is our guy now. From what I saw in the spring he doesn't let the ball get away from him-meaning he's been COACHED and has shown progression. EA should be fine. The double standard is crazyt though.
 
#36
#36
I disagree . . . One guy showed an ability to run the offense at least marginally and the other didn't. It was pretty simple.

You can't do much offensively when you've got a QB who either can't or won't stand in the pocket without having a panic attack if his primary receiver is covered.
 
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(VolinArizona @ Aug 4 said:
Remember, he was a freshman splitting time with another player.

If he had taken all the snaps that season, we wouldn't think he's "average."
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On the money.
 
#38
#38
that kid could throw amazing passes on the run, but nothing from the pocket. he may have thrown the most impressive pass i have ever seen (luck or not) on a dead sprint about 50 yards downfield and perfectly placed. i have a hard time believing that is all luck
 
#39
#39
It was a great play, but I think it was a better catch than it was a throw. Fayton made one of the catches of his life on that one.
 
#40
#40
I disagree . . . One guy showed an ability to run the offense at least marginally and the other didn't. It was pretty simple.
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---> ok, anybody who knows anything about football could see that EA was more comfortable in a pro style offense, but the point is- why not suite your offense to your qb's strength as mentioned earlier...not meaning turn UT into an option team but utilize his running and passing skills. and if my memory serves me correctly they both had to have their hand held the whole season (i.e. looking to sanders on the sideline to tell them what to do) if every player came to college fully prepared, they'd just skip the whole experience and go pro. Everybody who says that BS wasn't smart enough(4 months in the system) and then turn around give every excuse in the world for crompton(2 yrs in the system) not knowing the offense are hypocrites.

You can't do much offensively when you've got a QB who either can't or won't stand in the pocket without having a panic attack if his primary receiver is covered.
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----> Wow, I thought that's why he went to college, to learn how to PLAY the game. There are very few peyton mannings coming out of highschool. I don't think BS is the savior for Ole Miss, but I'll be pulling for him and I'd even go further to say that he'll be a lot more successful that a lot around here think.



Didn't change any content. Just edited so that the quotes would be tagged and the post would be easier to read. :hi:
 
#41
#41
I don't disagree with anything you just said . . . But don't you think there is something pretty obvious about the fact that he was named the starter going into the season, but couldn't keep Ainge off the field? If anybody had the upper hand going into the 2004 season at QB, it was Schaeffer.
 
#42
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(GAVol @ Aug 6 said:
It was a great play, but I think it was a better catch than it was a throw. Fayton made one of the catches of his life on that one.
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Atleast Fayton had a shot to catch it, as compared to this past year Clausen couldnt have thrown it 50 yards and Ainge would have thrown it too far out in front of him.
 
#43
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(smokeyman15 @ Aug 6 said:
Atleast Fayton had a shot to catch it, as compared to this past year Clausen couldnt have thrown it 50 yards and Ainge would have thrown it too far out in front of him.
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You make a good point . . . :biggrin2:

That's the maddening thing about Schaeffer though. If he had stayed around, the coaches would have likely been forced to give him significant playing time last year and there's a good chance that he might be the clear cut starter right now.
 
#44
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(GAVol @ Aug 6 said:
I don't disagree with anything you just said . . . But don't you think there is something pretty obvious about the fact that he was named the starter going into the season, but couldn't keep Ainge off the field? If anybody had the upper hand going into the 2004 season at QB, it was Schaeffer.
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I definitely don't think he had the upper hand. Your arguement would have more weight if Tenn had opened against Florida. I mean MTSU would've stomped UNLV. I never denied the fact that EA was a more developed college QB going in and BS was going to have to work 10times as hard to catch up. The fact that he started making bonehead moves falls on him, but at the same time- he did get jobbed. Tenn failed BS just like they failed EA until this season by not developing those guys. My problem isn't so much with that cuz all that works itself out in the end--->google Randy Sanders. My problem is that the SOME vol fans and specifically some of the guys(1 in particular) on sports talk make suddle innuendos that a black qb isn't capable playing the position "the right way". The bottom line is, coaches play the best players @ all positions, but it burns me to here someone say "he can't grasp the offense" . If the statement applys to the player- no prob. I don't care who they are, but too many times "he can't grasp the offense" means I just don't like the idea of this guy playing qb @ this level of football
 
#45
#45
(GAVol @ Aug 6 said:
You make a good point . . . :biggrin2:

That's the maddening thing about Schaeffer though. If he had stayed around, the coaches would have likely been forced to give him significant playing time last year and there's a good chance that he might be the clear cut starter right now.
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Your exactly right, he could have very well been the clear cut starter by now but then again, he was the only QB who messed up enough to get kicked off the team.
 
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