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#26
#26
Sjernigan88 said:
When Tithing, you are doing so in faith not because you expect but because you are thankful for his blessings not because God won't love you if you do not.
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we are commanded to give 10% (of your gross) anything above 10% is an offering
 
#27
#27
therealUT said:
It is also mentioned in Numbers and Deuteronomy.
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discussions on offerings and tithes are mentioned numerous times throughout the Bible. As a Christian, I felt the word of Jesus served the most to backup VIA's statement. While it doesn't discredit the teachings of the Torah, Leviticus says that a tithe of everything from the land belongs to the Lord. It is commonly considered that means 1/10 (tithe) of all earnings should be given to the church. In my assumption you aren't going to Hell for not giving at least 1/10, but those who give the most will be the most handsomely rewarded.
 
#30
#30
therealUT said:
Definitely. I believe it is mentioned in the same book that also talks about killing your family members when they sin...

Paging JZVOL...
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:) Funny!

I know my tithe doesn't go to the plasmas at my church because I designate my check for missions.
 
#31
#31
Christians are no longer under the law of the Old Testamant,but are now under Grace. They follow the law not because it is a requirement,but because they love Christ and desire out of love to follow them.As VFB already stated,not tithing could effect your rewards in heaven.
 
#32
#32
I40VOL said:
we are commanded to give 10% (of your gross) anything above 10% is an offering
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No I agree 100%, I guess I worded it wrong, what I am saying is I am thankful for what I have been blessed with and tithing is more of an honor and privelage than it is a duty or law, even though you are right it is very clear
 
#33
#33
That's one good thing about the Bible for people is that they can pick and choose what they think is important and then throw out the rest.

Cutting beards/hair, Sleeping with women on their periods.. All sorts of crazy stuff we just decided we didn't like.

But that tithing this is a _LAW_ (booming voice)
 
#34
#34
rdl2k7 said:
That's one good thing about the Bible for people is that they can pick and choose what they think is important and then throw out the rest.

Cutting beards/hair, Sleeping with women on their periods.. All sorts of crazy stuff we just decided we didn't like.

But that tithing this is a _LAW_ (booming voice)
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That's part of the old Jewish law that Gentiles are not under. It's not picking and choosing, but those thing don't apply to us.
 
#35
#35
Tithing is a fun topic........ what percentage is right........?????

5%, 10%, 15%, 20%......... What your free will tells you is enough?
 
#36
#36
Just out of curiosity what do you do?

And for the love change that video, Maggot!
 
#37
#37
Right now, my wife and I tithe 10% of what we actually get.

When we get something back for out taxes it will be 10% of what we get back.

Basically, any thing that comes in, we give 10% of what we actually get.
 
#39
#39
I have been in hardcore churches where it is 10% of what you make overall before taxes and insurance.....

I dunno, just doesn't make sense to me.
 
#40
#40
Yea, my brother tells me I should be doing 10% before taxes but that's never made sense to me either so I don't do that.
 
#41
#41
Really I think it comes down to piece of mind. You can argue the percentages that I mentioned above and think you are 100% biblically correct.

I think the true overall lesson is the spirit of giving. Generally speaking, once you achieve that level you won't mind giving the amount you set for yourself.
 
#42
#42
I do like how every time we have a special offering my pastor says whatever you are comfortable with, double it!
 
#45
#45
Well, if you want my opinion here it is. There is no fixed percentage of Christian generosity, most of us can and should give ten percent. But God expects more than ten percent of us, and I dont mean financially.
 
#46
#46
There are 4 types of giving:

1. Cheerful tithe- This follows the paths outlined in the Old Testament Covenant(OTC) to instruct them in their giving while cheerfully and willingly submitting themselves to that authority.
2. Cheerful Spirit-led- This follows the paths outlined in the New Testament Covenant(NTC) to instruct them in their giving and cheerfully and willingly submit themselves to that authority.
3. Un-cheerful tithe- This believes tithing is right, but generally either struggle to or don't give in accordance to the paths of giving outlined in the OTC.
4. Un-cheerful Spirit-led- This believes free-will is right, but generally either struggle to or don't give in accordance to the paths of giving outlined in the New Testament Covenant.

Which then leads to the tithe, the church, and the storehouse.

The kingdom of heaven, which is the New Testament picture of the storehouse, has a limitless capacity, compared to the Old Testament storehouse, . The building in which we worship is not the Old Testament storehouse renewed for us in the New Testament. So, the new challenge today is to fill up the borderless gates of heaven.
 
#47
#47
OrangeEmpire said:
There are 4 types of giving:

1. Cheerful tithe- This follows the paths outlined in the Old Testament Covenant(OTC) to instruct them in their giving while cheerfully and willingly submitting themselves to that authority.
2. Cheerful Spirit-led- This follows the paths outlined in the New Testament Covenant(NTC) to instruct them in their giving and cheerfully and willingly submit themselves to that authority.
3. Un-cheerful tithe- This believes tithing is right, but generally either struggle to or don't give in accordance to the paths of giving outlined in the OTC.
4. Un-cheerful Spirit-led- This believes free-will is right, but generally either struggle to or don't give in accordance to the paths of giving outlined in the New Testament Covenant.

Which then leads to the tithe, the church, and the storehouse.

The kingdom of heaven, which is the New Testament picture of the storehouse, has a limitless capacity, compared to the Old Testament storehouse, . The building in which we worship is not the Old Testament storehouse renewed for us in the New Testament. So, the new challenge today is to fill up the borderless gates of heaven.
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Is it just me or is it funny reading this with the way your sig looks? :)
 
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