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[Tennessee Jack]

Raynochonspeed, my heart is aflutter since you've entered into my life. Just hours ago, you were an unknown. You were a man without an identity---but now...now that time has passed.

for you...you are wisdom...you are might...

your words are like arrows which have pierced both my mind and my spirit...

raynochonspeed: a breakdown

his tongue: golden
his words: electric
his intellect: unrivaled
his presence: shines like a winter sun

his only flaws: his complete disregard for courtesy, intelligent discourse, and did I mention his unrelenting campaign of blindly pursuing partisan gridlocks?

maybe Sabanocchio could've kept his kiddie gloves on and not called your post "garbage"(which it was), but if you were as wise as you seem to perceive yourself to be, shouldn't you already know that calling him a "simpleton" wouldn't have been the best way to ingratiate yourself to the congregation?

 

[OHvol40]

You deem my post complete garbage, mainly because you have a different opinion. Sorry if you have a tough time dealing with the truth. Exactly my point - you are one of the delusional.

We are certainly not in a "good position" to address the 2 greatest areas of deficiency: QB and OL. And considering the hiring of Monte Kiffin, it is very disappointing that UT hasn't secured any high-profile DTs or LBs. I surmise that the new coaching staff and their respective reputations seem more appealing to the fans than to the undecided student-athletes.

I would love to be psyched about this incoming class. But days and days pass without news of any decent commitments.

Listen to even your own words - "adequately addressed". "Adequate" will not beat Florida, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, or as in the case of last year, Wy-freaking-oming. Listen to your own words - "5th in the SEC". Out of 12 - nothing to brag about. Not to mention 3rd or 4th in the SEC EAST! Out of 6. Listen to your own words - "setting a real good foundation for next year's class". I am not talking about next year. This year's recruiting class will be mediocre.

So, in retrospect, thank you, Saban, for backing up my assertions. Guess it wasn't so much garbage after all.

Face the facts.

On the field, this year's dissapointment was Fulmer's. Not Kiffin's. On NSD, this year is not on Lane Kiffin, this class, if only adequate, is just the victim of circumstance. This year is not Kiffin's class. Kids get recruited for years. He has had not even 2 months. You ARE unrealistic, and I hope that you are constantly dissapointed in the vols so that you may go root for another team. That way I would not, in any way, be obligated to be affiliated with you.

 

[TheVol]

Excellent retort. Extremely insightful. Well-researched and well-thought-out. A paragon of logical analysis.

You don't know me. You don't know my expectations. You can only stoop to base generalizations and mild insults. Not surprising, really.

How about offering counter-arguments or facts that stand contrary to my beliefs? Because there aren't any that hold any relevance or truth.

Oh, and for the record, simpleton, I don't think finishing in the top third of the SEC East is an unrealistic expectation.

You have presented not one fact or argument that has any relevance or truth. It is your opinion that not pursuing Boyd is a mistake, but you have no evidence or even argument to back this up. You have no argument or proof on any recruiting since NSD is still weeks away and our staff is still new and working these recruits. You are the "simpleton" that has resorted to name calling with no reason or premise. What are you even arguing? My guess from your picture and avatar is you are nothing more than a simple Troll. Go crawl back under your bridge.

 

[raynochonspeed]

Pretty obvious. He's one of those that will tear down anything the man does because he has his mind made up about him. I'm not going to waste my time arguing with him. Pretty obvious that he's disregarding facts and logic already in forming his opinion so presenting more facts and logic would be pointless.

Incorrect, yet again. You are on a roll.

You have distorted my words and made incorrect assumptions. Keep up the good work.

I did not in any way "tear down" Lane Kiffin. I hope only for total and complete success on his part, and I have never stated otherwise. However, a 5-15 record as a head coach should be a cause for concern, not the blind, wonton devotion that the man can do no wrong that many posters on this site seem to have given the man.

Nor do I have my mind "made up" about him. I am open to any kind of positive change that he can create. But, and I hope you understand this, he has not done anything yet.

I would gladly eat my words on National Signing Day. I hope for some surprises (Marcus Hall and A.J. McCarron commitments would be nice). But the constant "rah-rah", "we're gonna have a top 10 class!!!!!!" attitude with no factual support gets to be a bit tedious.

 

[raynochonspeed]

You have presented not one fact or argument that has any relevance or truth. It is your opinion that not pursuing Boyd is a mistake, but you have no evidence or even argument to back this up. You have no argument or proof on any recruiting since NSD is still weeks away and our staff is still new and working these recruits. You are the "simpleton" that has resorted to name calling with no reason or premise. What are you even arguing? My guess from your picture and avatar is you are nothing more than a simple Troll. Go crawl back under your bridge.

How am I a troll? I have a differing opinion? I choose to remain skeptical until actual results can be measured?

My avatar was such before Fulmer was even let go. I just changed the tagline instead of choosing a new picture. I think Chris Peterson does great work with lesser talent. We should be so lucky.

 

[OHvol40]

Incorrect, yet again. You are on a roll.

You have distorted my words and made incorrect assumptions. Keep up the good work.

I did not in any way "tear down" Lane Kiffin. I hope only for total and complete success on his part, and I have never stated otherwise. However, a 5-15 record as a head coach should be a cause for concern, not the blind, wonton devotion that the man can do no wrong that many posters on this site seem to have given the man.

Nor do I have my mind "made up" about him. I am open to any kind of positive change that he can create. But, and I hope you understand this, he has not done anything yet.

I would gladly eat my words on National Signing Day. I hope for some surprises (Marcus Hall and A.J. McCarron commitments would be nice). But the constant "rah-rah", "we're gonna have a top 10 class!!!!!!" attitude with no factual support gets to be a bit tedious.

Hall= all but committed, gonna end up in the Big 10.

McCarron= IS committed

Unrealistic again.

 

[raynochonspeed]

On the field, this year's dissapointment was Fulmer's. Not Kiffin's. On NSD, this year is not on Lane Kiffin, this class, if only adequate, is just the victim of circumstance. This year is not Kiffin's class. Kids get recruited for years. He has had not even 2 months. You ARE unrealistic, and I hope that you are constantly dissapointed in the vols so that you may go root for another team. That way I would not, in any way, be obligated to be affiliated with you.

Wow. I seem to have ruffled some feathers.

Sorry, old lady(?), but I am a Vol for life. I also reserve the right to express disappointment (as well as joy, anger, etc.) if it seems appropriate. This has been a disappointing year of UT football, and that disappointment has carried into recruiting season. Is it unrealistic to expect a finish higher than 8th in the SEC (our current rank on Scout)? Maybe you are right.

Oh, and you aren't "obligated to be affiliated" with me. I simply made a comment on a message board. Ignore me. I think I just might survive.

 

[Volfan8282]

Wow. I seem to have ruffled some feathers.

Sorry, old lady(?), but I am a Vol for life. I also reserve the right to express disappointment (as well as joy, anger, etc.) if it seems appropriate. This has been a disappointing year of UT football, and that disappointment has carried into recruiting season. Is it unrealistic to expect a finish higher than 8th in the SEC (our current rank on Scout)? Maybe you are right.

Oh, and you aren't "obligated to be affiliated" with me. I simply made a comment on a message board. Ignore me. I think I just might survive.

I'm not going to argue with you because I'm tired, and I just am not in the mood. But, recruiting takes several months ... years for some players, especially QBs. Kiffin was hired December 1. He's been on the job barely 6 weeks and only had a full staff for about one week. I'm not saying that this is a great class ... I expect top 15. But, you cannot expect more from Kiffin. Blame Fulmer and his crap staff for not having a better class. We're getting kids to come visit that didn't even begin to think about UT 3 months ago. Just reserve judgment until next year ... I don't see how it will not be top 5.

 

[the.one.the.only]

I'm not going to argue with you because I'm tired, and I just am not in the mood. But, recruiting takes several months ... years for some players, especially QBs. Kiffin was hired December 1. He's been on the job barely 6 weeks and only had a full staff for about one week. I'm not saying that this is a great class ... I expect top 15. But, you cannot expect more from Kiffin. Blame Fulmer and his crap staff for not having a better class. We're getting kids to come visit that didn't even begin to think about UT 3 months ago. Just reserve judgment until next year ... I don't see how it will not be top 5.

I completely agree with you, but that last part seems to be what he was complaining about. You can't guarantee a top 5 class next year, especially since we haven't seen anything yet. I agree that this guy is being unrealistic, but you can't just write off next year as a top 5 class. You're setting yourself up for disappointment (or maybe not. Which I somewhat agree with, based solely on our amazing recruiting staff.).

 

[toxicdonut]

Why are people calling this guy a troll? Volnation astounds me once again.

 

[OHvol40]

Wow. I seem to have ruffled some feathers.

Sorry, old lady(?), but I am a Vol for life. I also reserve the right to express disappointment (as well as joy, anger, etc.) if it seems appropriate. This has been a disappointing year of UT football, and that disappointment has carried into recruiting season. Is it unrealistic to expect a finish higher than 8th in the SEC (our current rank on Scout)? Maybe you are right.

Oh, and you aren't "obligated to be affiliated" with me. I simply made a comment on a message board. Ignore me. I think I just might survive.

Thanks for sticking to the topic that you were arguing in the first place. I guess when you can't make a legit counter-point then you just revert back to........ reserving your right to be disappointed? :good!: Thats fine........ coach. :crazy:

 

[m37bruno]

Pretty obvious. He's one of those that will tear down anything the man does because he has his mind made up about him. I'm not going to waste my time arguing with him. Pretty obvious that he's disregarding facts and logic already in forming his opinion so presenting more facts and logic would be pointless.

Really Who cares about anything that is Negative and being said about the VOLS or their coaching staff. Proof is in the pudding but on paper we have the best staff in College Football. Now can they put it all together....? Who knows, I like to think that we will have a pretty damn good year next year, but I am very optimistic.

But you gotta give everyone a chance. Our QB play was from a lack of offensive schemes. You had a pro-style Qb trying to run a west coast style offense. IT DOES NOT WORK!!! So who is to say that now that we are going to have a pro-style offense that the QB's we have might not look as bad as they did last year! We really just need a Kerry Collins type that can control the game and not turn the ball over. He does not have to be the next Peyton Manning to win games. Our Offensive line will be better becuase they understand the blocking assignments in the pro style set.
And most importantly we will have some leadership on the football field next year because the new coaches demand hard work and hold the players accountable for everything!

 

[50vol]

I think we are in a good position as of now, but hope we will get some nice surprises on signing day. Also, have we done enough to improve our D-Line which has been a problem the past couple of years?

 

[Oldblood]

I think raynochonspeed lost some credibility by saying Kiffin has "has not done anything yet." I think at the very least he has put together a VERY good staff. And I think being hired late November and not completing your staff until mid-January and being in the mix for a top 10 class is a good accomplishment as well. I think their is a wide divide between those who are waaaay too pro-Kiffin and waaay too anti-Kiffin. I'm somewhere in the middle, but I am fully behind him so far. He has put together a great staff as he said he would. He is making the team more physical (look at threads on S&C) like he said he would. He is working hard in recruiting like he said he would. I'm just awaiting the on the field results.