SEC coach of the year?

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Smart lost 28 players a year ago and won an undefeated SEC title with only 9 scholarship seniors. The job he did this year to maintain excellence was superb by every measure understood by people in the profession.

I'd be willing to bet coaches care more about what other coaches think.
 
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Grouse Stalker said:
Smart lost 28 players a year ago and won an undefeated SEC title with only 9 scholarship seniors. The job he did this year to maintain excellence was superb by every measure understood by people in the profession.

I'd be willing to bet coaches care more about what other coaches think.
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Go back to ga you. And who cares. We won one an award they won an award. Both are major awards.
 
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Grouse Stalker said:
Smart lost 28 players a year ago and won an undefeated SEC title with only 9 scholarship seniors. The job he did this year to maintain excellence was superb by every measure understood by people in the profession.

I'd be willing to bet coaches care more about what other coaches think.
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Grouse Stalker said:
Smart lost 28 players a year ago and won an undefeated SEC title with only 9 scholarship seniors. The job he did this year to maintain excellence was superb by every measure understood by people in the profession.

I'd be willing to bet coaches care more about what other coaches think.
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Dude, go hang out on a GA board. I've never understood fans of other teams hanging out here constantly talking about their team. Nobody here gives a sh!t about GA.
 
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BigBadVol said:
Dude, go hang out on a GA board. I've never understood fans of other teams hanging out here constantly talking about their team. Nobody here gives a sh!t about GA.
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Hey. Well excuuuuuse me. I was just trying to help. The guy asked a question about the head coach of the defending National Champion Georgia Bulldogs. Obviously at least one person cares. šŸ˜
 
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I dislike Georgia intensely, but Smart maintained a championship-level performance despite personnel turnover. Yes, itā€™s all made much easier when youā€™ve been recruiting every 5-star you want and feasting on an SEC East that hasnā€™t really been all that good for several years. However, sometimes the hardest coaching jobs are keeping your team on top after theyā€™ve tasted success.

The flip-side is that Heupel seems to have resurrected a program that was basically murdered through years of incompetent leadership. Culture change is perhaps the most difficult of all leadership/coaching challenges - and, as we all know - Heupel inherited a terrible mess left behind by an absolutely inept Jeremy Pruitt. Coach Heupel certainly got more out of less because no matter how you calculate it, our roster isnā€™t yet even close to Georgiaā€™s depth.

The poor performance against Georgia was probably excusable due to the talent gap, but the South Carolina choke probably hurt Heupelā€™s chances because it was so inexplicable. We all may look back on that game as a good thing that set the tone for Heupelā€™s lack of tolerance for selfishness in the locker room, but for this season itā€™ll stand as a great (and completely avoidable) missed opportunity.

In any case, I give no craps about this award - or the Heisman for that matter. I care about competing for (and winning) championships. If Heupel does that, and indications are that he will, the awards will follow.

In conclusion, all other SEC teams and coaches can get bent. Go Vols!
 
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Grouse Stalker said:
Smart lost 28 players a year ago and won an undefeated SEC title with only 9 scholarship seniors. The job he did this year to maintain excellence was superb by every measure understood by people in the profession.

I'd be willing to bet coaches care more about what other coaches think.
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Lol. Top 5 recruiting classes for multiple years. 15 5 stars and 53 4 stars on your 22 roster. The cupboard was hardly bare, Grousey.

Georgia Bulldogs 2022 Rosters

Your narrative is as silly and lame as Saban's was for a playoff spot.

CJH did more with less, that's coaching and AP recognized that.
 
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WillisWG said:
Lol. Top 5 recruiting classes for multiple years. 15 5 stars and 53 4 stars on your 22 roster. The cupboard was hardly bare, Grousey.

Georgia Bulldogs 2022 Rosters

Your narrative is as silly and lame as Saban's was for a playoff spot.

CJH did more with less, that's coaching and AP recognized that.
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If it was all about stars in the recruiting game then A&M would have won more than 4 games. You guys keep thinking what your thinking about Heupel. I'm actuakly happy for UT's fans and the program's limited success this season. Especially the limited part.

Keep beating the Gators and Bama. A strong UT isn't any more of a fear than a strong Alabama, Auburn, Florida, etc. Somebody else has to be good. Might as well be UT as anyone else. Sometimes the best team you play all season is in the regular season.
 
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Comparing the situation that Smart fell into to the one Heupel took over is hardly an argument. Kirby didn't have to rebuild... at all. That's not to take away from the job he's done. But to say that Kirby "continuing" excellence (with more talent than any other team on the planet)... it isn't such a tough gig. What CJH has done in his 2nd year with a bunch of guys that weren't highly recruited is nothing short of a miracle. Darnell Wright and Bru McCoy were the only 2 five stars that I can even think of that contributed. Do we even have another one on the team?
 
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Kirby is now sustaining Ga football his way, year 6 or whatever. That is great, blah blah blah.
Heupel needs to focus from here on out on his defense. IF he can't figure that out he will be another Mark Richt. 9-10 win a season with a nice bowl game to hope soothe the donors. HE HAS TO FIX THE DEFENSE IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS. PERIOD.
 
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DickeyD said:
Kirby is now sustaining Ga football his way, year 6 or whatever. That is great, blah blah blah.
Heupel needs to focus from here on out on his defense. IF he can't figure that out he will be another Mark Richt. 9-10 win a season with a nice bowl game to hope soothe the donors. HE HAS TO FIX THE DEFENSE IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS. PERIOD.
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I think he knows that. Have you seen the defensive haul for '23?
 
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O.G.HomeGrownUTVOL said:
I think he knows that. Have you seen the defensive haul for '23?
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Looks great right now and I hope it gets better. I guess I'm saying he will have to keep elite recruiters on the staff and do this every year. We need to be top 1-5 at a minimum every year with an occasional outlier. Hard to do.
Even then there is a gap between 2-3 and even bigger gap from 3-4 and so on. I just want sustainability!
 
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Grouse Stalker said:
If it was all about stars in the recruiting game then A&M would have won more than 4 games. You guys keep thinking what your thinking about Heupel. I'm actuakly happy for UT's fans and the program's limited success this season. Especially the limited part.

Keep beating the Gators and Bama. A strong UT isn't any more of a fear than a strong Alabama, Auburn, Florida, etc. Somebody else has to be good. Might as well be UT as anyone else. Sometimes the best team you play all season is in the regular season.
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Some Coaches can't win with talent, some can't without it. The other regular Georgia posters had the balls to admit it was about the Jimmies and Joe's. But you seem to want it both ways, Grousey. Your guy won with a more talented roster and you trying to boohoo that fact, is shameful.

Smart is 1-4 against Saban's Bama, why? Better talent or better coaching? You know the answer.
 
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Kirby Smartt did a great job but Georgia had a very favorable schedule as well.

They started the season with an Oregon team breaking in a new QB and with a new coach in Georgia. Their only true competition in the SEC East had to go to Athens.

They didn't have any meaningful road games. They caught South Carolina before they got good on the road so it wasn't much of a game. The closest meaningful game was @ Miss State.

The stars align for Georgia with their schedule.
 
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WillisWG said:
Some Coaches can't win with talent, some can't without it. The other regular Georgia posters had the balls to admit it was about the Jimmies and Joe's. But you seem to want it both ways, Grousey. Your guy won with a more talented roster and you trying to boohoo that fact, is shameful.

Smart is 1-4 against Saban's Bama, why? Better talent or better coaching? You know the answer.
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I'd say better coaching in 2017 and 18. Two breakdowns on defense, one in the national championship and another in the SECC the following year, allowed Bama to win two games for which they had the lead for like 31 seconds combined. Otherwise, Kirby would be 3-2 with a 2017 natty, a 2018 SEC title, and a 2018 playoff appearance to play for another natty...but my aunt doesnt have nuts and that's not what happened.
 
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Grouse Stalker said:
I'd say better coaching in 2017 and 18. Two breakdowns on defense, one in the national championship and another in the SECC the following year, allowed Bama to win two games for which they had the lead for like 31 seconds combined. Otherwise, Kirby would be 3-2 with a 2017 natty, a 2018 SEC title, and a 2018 playoff appearance to play for another natty...but my aunt doesnt have nuts and that's not what happened.
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That's true. That would remove what, two Bama Natties?
 
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Grouse Stalker said:
Smart lost 28 players a year ago and won an undefeated SEC title with only 9 scholarship seniors. The job he did this year to maintain excellence was superb by every measure understood by people in the profession.

I'd be willing to bet coaches care more about what other coaches think.
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I bet they care more about what others think more than what we care about what you think.
 
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