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#54
#54
lawgator1 said:
I'm excited to be past the UGA hump and back in Atlanta, but fact is Alabama should beat us by 30.
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I know this is a prevalent thought out there but I just don’t understand the “Florida will lose by 30” and “Florida will lose by 4 TD’s” mantra . Not because Bama isn’t an excellent team, but because they’ve shown defensive vulnerabilities this year and in recent years. They beat Georgia by 17, Ole Miss scored 48 on Bama and lost by 15, Bama didn’t beat A&M by 30, they didn’t beat Mizzou by 30, they beat UGa by 17, they didn’t beat Auburn by 30, but they’re gonna beat Florida by 30?? I don’t see it.

Ole Miss this year and LSU last year are the only two offenses they’ve faced that are similar to Florida’s this year. Ole Miss hung 48 via 647 total yards on Bama! 2019 LSU hung 46 on them via 559 total yards. Yet a Florida team which is just as good as those offenses is going to come out and lose by 30? Maybe so, but I don’t see it.

Everyone likes to point to Bama’s defense as being so much more superior than UF, but that’s not completely true either. Bama is 3rd in the SEC in total defense, Florida is 5th. Bama gives up 18 points and 357 yards a game, UF gives up 25 points and 381 yards a game. So UF gives up 7 more points and 24 more yards. That’s supposed to make Bama a 30 point favorite? And by the way, Florida’s defense has more sacks and TFL’s than Bama.

Having said all that, I’m absolutely fine with the “Florida can’t win” narrative. Hell, make it “we should lose by 40” if you want. Fine by me.
 
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#55
#55
Guys our entire program sucks butt right now and is showing no sign of even wanting to be good again.

Other fans get to taunt all they want. Take football seriously or enjoy being a f’n doormat.

Hire a proven HC that can beat these guys or get to licking boots.
 
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#57
#57
Jaws said:
I know this is a prevalent thought out there but I just don’t understand the “Florida will lose by 30” and “Florida will lose by 4 TD’s” mantra . Not because Bama isn’t an excellent team, but because they’ve shown defensive vulnerabilities this year and in recent years. They beat Georgia by 17, Ole Miss scored 48 on Bama and lost by 15, Bama didn’t beat A&M by 30, they didn’t beat Mizzou by 30, they beat UGa by 17, they didn’t beat Auburn by 30, but they’re gonna beat Florida by 30?? I don’t see it.

Ole Miss this year and LSU last year are the only two offenses they’ve faced that are similar to Florida’s this year. Ole Miss hung 48 via 647 total yards on Bama! 2019 LSU hung 46 on them via 559 total yards. Yet a Florida team which is just as good as those offenses is going to come out and lose by 30? Maybe so, but I don’t see it.

Everyone likes to point to Bama’s defense as being so much more superior than UF, but that’s not completely true either. Bama is 3rd in the SEC in total defense, Florida is 5th. Bama gives up 18 points and 357 yards a game, UF gives up 25 points and 381 yards a game. So UF gives up 7 more points and 24 more yards. That’s supposed to make Bama a 30 point favorite? And by the way, Florida’s defense has more sacks and TFL’s than Bama.

Having said all that, I’m absolutely fine with the “Florida can’t win” narrative. Hell, make it “we should lose by 40” if you want. Fine by me.
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Both teams have weak defenses. But I think UF's is REALLY bad. We can't tackle. A lot of the time we don't even seem to try. And that is against teams like Vanderbilt, Kentucky, and (forgive me) Tennessee. Alabama can run the ball all it wants against us. I just don't see us ever forcing a stop if and when we need it.
 
#58
#58
lawgator1 said:
Both teams have weak defenses. But I think UF's is REALLY bad. We can't tackle. A lot of the time we don't even seem to try. And that is against teams like Vanderbilt, Kentucky, and (forgive me) Tennessee. Alabama can run the ball all it wants against us. I just don't see us ever forcing a stop if and when we need it.
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Why stop at Bama by 30? Go Bama by 50.
 
#59
#59
Jaws said:
Why stop at Bama by 30? Go Bama by 50.
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Not if they are running the ball. I just see them coming out and being up 14-0 halfway through the first quarter, our defense realizing it is outmatched and withdrawing, and a charlie foxtrot from there.
 
#60
#60
I love Jaws’ optimism, unfortunately I don’t have it.

Even without Waddle this might be the most balanced Alabama offense I’ve ever seen, and that includes the Mark Ingram/Julio Jones era Tide.
 
#61
#61
Lawrence Wright said:
I love Jaws’ optimism, unfortunately I don’t have it.

Even without Waddle this might be the most balanced Alabama offense I’ve ever seen, and that includes the Mark Ingram/Julio Jones era Tide.
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Devonte Smith is a freak, Najee Harris is a stud, Mac Jones is accurate and poised.

Kyle Trask is the best QB in the country, Kyle Pitts is every bit the unicorn that Smith is for Bama, and Kedarius Toney is a freak too. BOTH of these offenses will score, a lot.

It’ll come down to which defense can force a couple punts and a turnover or two.

I’m not saying Florida will win this game, but I am saying the “Bama wins by 30” and “Florida loses by 4 TD’s” mantra is way off. I think this is a 10-14 point game, maybe 45-35, 42-31, something like that.
 
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#64
#64
Lawrence Wright said:
Bama can run, UF can’t.

That’s the difference.
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Bama runs better, sure. But it’s not like Florida can’t run at all. Florida averages 126 yards per game on the ground. That’s not zero. Bama averages 187, so about 60 more yards a game on the ground than Florida. That’s not some insurmountable number. It’s certainly doesn’t indicate “Bama by 30.”

And Florida throws it better. Florida has more completions, thrown for more yards, more yards per game, given up five fewer sacks on 66 more attempts, and Florida has thrown for 12 more TD passes.

So Bama wins because they run better, but Florida gets no cred for throwing better? Who cares which way you get your yards and points, so long as you get them.

Again, my only point is, Florida has enough firepower to hang in this game. Nothing indicates Bama by 30. Bama by 30 means they’ll beat Florida worse than they’ve beaten Ole Miss, Auburn, Georgia, Missouri and aTm. Bama beat Tennessee by 31.
 
#68
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Jaws said:
I know this is a prevalent thought out there but I just don’t understand the “Florida will lose by 30” and “Florida will lose by 4 TD’s” mantra . Not because Bama isn’t an excellent team, but because they’ve shown defensive vulnerabilities this year and in recent years. They beat Georgia by 17, Ole Miss scored 48 on Bama and lost by 15, Bama didn’t beat A&M by 30, they didn’t beat Mizzou by 30, they beat UGa by 17, they didn’t beat Auburn by 30, but they’re gonna beat Florida by 30?? I don’t see it.

Ole Miss this year and LSU last year are the only two offenses they’ve faced that are similar to Florida’s this year. Ole Miss hung 48 via 647 total yards on Bama! 2019 LSU hung 46 on them via 559 total yards. Yet a Florida team which is just as good as those offenses is going to come out and lose by 30? Maybe so, but I don’t see it.

Everyone likes to point to Bama’s defense as being so much more superior than UF, but that’s not completely true either. Bama is 3rd in the SEC in total defense, Florida is 5th. Bama gives up 18 points and 357 yards a game, UF gives up 25 points and 381 yards a game. So UF gives up 7 more points and 24 more yards. That’s supposed to make Bama a 30 point favorite? And by the way, Florida’s defense has more sacks and TFL’s than Bama.

Having said all that, I’m absolutely fine with the “Florida can’t win” narrative. Hell, make it “we should lose by 40” if you want. Fine by me.
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I don’t think Bama wins by 4 touchdowns, but I do think they win. They just seem like a more complete team. More weapons on offense and their OL is insane. Bama does have some issues defensively, so UF does have a chance. On the flip side UF also has some issues defensively. Will probably come down to which defense is able to step up and I just don’t trust Grantham.
 
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#69
Atlanta917 said:
I don’t think Bama wins by 4 touchdowns, but I do think they win. They just seem like a more complete team. More weapons on offense and their OL is insane. Bama does have some issues defensively, so UF does have a chance. On the flip side UF also has some issues defensively. Will probably come down to which defense is able to step up and I just don’t trust Grantham.
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Fair assessment and I agree with most of it. I wouldn’t predict UF to win, but I also wouldn’t predict them to get beat by 30, or 4 TD’s.
 
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#70
Bama is just too balanced and that’s the main reason I think they’re the best team in the country. By a lot. They really don’t have an offensive weakness. In the past Hurts was a liability in the passing game and they’d just pound you or good teams could get to Tua, but now it’s a freak show of a well oiled machine. Pick your poison of Najee or the throwing game, either way you’re going to die .
 
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#71
Jaws said:
Fair assessment and I agree with most of it. I wouldn’t predict UF to win, but I also wouldn’t predict them to get beat by 30, or 4 TD’s.
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Agreed. Don’t see a blow out unless QB injuries happen to either side. Imo UF needs to find a pass rush, which will be difficult with Bama’s OL, and come up with stops on defense.
 
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#72
#72
Alabama is just better in every way except maybe passing the ball, where I think they are on par. Florida definitely has a chance, but are most definitely underdogs. Alabama by 2 TDs makes sense. At least I do see a fighting chance for Florida, unlike 2016 or 2015.
 
#73
#73
Gatornator said:
Alabama is just better in every way except maybe passing the ball, where I think they are on par. Florida definitely has a chance, but are most definitely underdogs. Alabama by 2 TDs makes sense. At least I do see a fighting chance for Florida, unlike 2016 or 2015.
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It’ll be interesting to see how Mullen approaches the game. On hand it’s always a good idea to shorten a game against a more talented opponent. Going with Leach’s game plan against UGA would shorten the game and test Bama’s secondary which has been suspect at times. On the other hand UF’s offense could potentially go shot for shot against Bama.
 
#74
#74
Jaws said:
It’s been a minute, so proud to represent the SECe in Atlanta. We need to use LSU next week to get a little better and then go see what we can do against Bama with a title on the line.
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Don’t you have a Gator forum??
 
#75
#75
Roustabout said:
Don’t you have a Gator forum??
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Yes.

But I like it here too. Since you have a problem with other perspectives, stay off the “around the NCAA forum” and more specifically, stay off the “SEC East Representatives” post.

And stay off the popular “what other message boards are saying” threads in the main board.

Thanks.
 
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