SEC In Regionals

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VFLinFL said:
Florida A&M, Florida Gulf Coast, Florida Atlantic & Jacksonville is not decent competition. There records show it & a couple of those schools have had decent seasons in the past.
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I'll give him FGCU as they've had a decent program for a smaller school, at least they did when I was growing up in the Ft. Myers area.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
That's fine if you don't buy it. If a team is capable of winning series against the other top 3-5 teams in the league plus overrated FSU teams then yes, I expect them not to lose series against the #9-10 teams in the same league plus ****ty B1G teams. But as you said, many wouldn't have pegged UF as the best team in the league to begin with, myself included.

I belive that LSU is the most talented team in the SEC and the one that has always had the best chance to make a deep CWS run. Inconsistent or not, bad draw overall or not, UF had no business going 0-2 in Gainesville.
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you are making a couple of different points here.

i think florida should have performed better in the regional. i don't dispute that.

i'm saying florida wasn't inconsistent this season.

lastly, i don't know if you live down here in florida, but with a couple of exceptions.....there is no such thing as a bad baseball team in the state of florida. that's pretty true in texas and california as well.

if you play north florida, ju, fiu, ucf, usf,stetson, florida atlantic, florida gulf coast, etc, etc, etc.....those are pretty good teams. whether you want to believe that or not, i don't care.

but, florida's schedule was pretty much entirely ranked in the top 50 of the rpi. to say they were inconsistent because they lost on a random wednesday to some local florida school is ludicrous.

they played a grand total of 10 games all season against teams with an rpi of greater than 100 and were 8-2 in those games.

texas a&m and kentucky are in the top 30 in rpi. how are those bad losses?

their longest losing streak all season was two....until losing the sec final and first two of the regional.

they were not an inconsistent club.
 
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99gator said:
you are making a couple of different points here.

i think florida should have performed better in the regional. i don't dispute that.

i'm saying florida wasn't inconsistent this season.

lastly, i don't know if you live down here in florida, but with a couple of exceptions.....there is no such thing as a bad baseball team in the state of florida. that's pretty true in texas and california as well.

if you play north florida, ju, fiu, ucf, usf,stetson, florida atlantic, florida gulf coast, etc, etc, etc.....those are pretty good teams. whether you want to believe that or not, i don't care.

but, florida's schedule was pretty much entirely ranked in the top 50 of the rpi. to say they were inconsistent because they lost on a random wednesday to some local florida school is ludicrous.

they played a grand total of 10 games all season against teams with an rpi of greater than 100 and were 8-2 in those games.

texas a&m and kentucky are in the top 30 in rpi. how are those bad losses?

their longest losing streak all season was two....until losing the sec final and first two of the regional.

they were not an inconsistent club.
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I grew up in FL so I'm pretty familiar with FL NCAA baseball and I follow the Sun Belt closely so I get a dose of FIU and FAU. Yes, the mid-major baseball is probably 2nd best in the country behind Cali.

We have our opinions and neither are likely changing. I consider a team that loses 20 regular season games while also winning their conference (the #1 conference at that) inconsistent. LSU, USC, Vandy didn't lose 20 games. That to me is the definitin of being inconsistent or playing down to your competiton. You say y'all weren't the most talented team and actually overachieved. So if you beat teams who were more talented than you but lost to teams less talented than you (yet still talented for your sake) then what does that make you?

And your SOS is #1 and RPI boosted because of the games vs UM and FSU in addition to the SEC, not because of the mid-major FL teams.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
I grew up in FL so I'm pretty familiar with FL NCAA baseball and I follow the Sun Belt closely so I get a dose of FIU and FAU. Yes, the mid-major baseball is probably 2nd best in the country behind Cali.

We have our opinions and neither are likely changing. I consider a team that loses 20 regular season games while also winning their conference (the #1 conference at that) inconsistent. LSU, USC, Vandy didn't lose 20 games. That to me is the definitin of being inconsistent or playing down to your competiton. You say y'all weren't the most talented team and actually overachieved. So if you beat teams who were more talented than you but lost to teams less talented than you (yet still talented for your sake) then what does that make you?

And your SOS is #1 and RPI boosted because of the games vs UM and FSU in addition to the SEC, not because of the mid-major FL teams.
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they played 53 baseball games against teams with an rpi better than 100 and only 10 games against opponents with an rpi of 100 or worse.

lsu played 23 games against opponents with an rpi of 100 or worse. 13 were against those with an rpi of 200 or worse.

just as a comparison. lsu's record wasn't that much better than florida's.

and lsu also lost 2 of 3 to texas a&m
 
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well, florida didn't help matters by putting up an awesome 0-2....

but, the sec got hammered in these regionals.

congrats to ole miss and vandy
 
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Hard to believe that only 2 teams will advance. If you would've told me that LSU, Fla and So Car wasn't going to win their regional I'd have said you were crazy.
 
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Will an SEC team make it to Omaha? I think if Beede repeats last Friday's performance, then it will be tough to beat both Fulmer and Buehler.
 
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y'all hate vandy, so i know this won't be received well. but, i am pulling for them at this point.

they have had some great teams that didn't get it done in the post season. maybe, this team will when it isn't expected. but, it would be nice to see them make a run.
 
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Vandy did sweep Stanford earlier in the year, but I think 2 of the 3 starting pitchers are different this time around. I thought Vanderbilt got a good draw in the tournament this year and it seems like when they are a higher seed their draw is not as kind. It will be interesting to see if this team can do what "better" Vanderbilt teams could not do in the past.
 
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CommodoreCapital said:
Vandy did sweep Stanford earlier in the year, but I think 2 of the 3 starting pitchers are different this time around. I thought Vanderbilt got a good draw in the tournament this year and it seems like when they are a higher seed their draw is not as kind. It will be interesting to see if this team can do what "better" Vanderbilt teams could not do in the past.
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Aside from a generally all around better overall record then Stanford this year, it helps Vanderbilt quite a bit(though may not mean a darn in the end) that 1) They have the home field advantage, and 2)Stanford having played 5 games over a period of 4 day has got to be physically and mentally exhausting on their players, even with a few days rest in between. The fact that they will have to travel again to be in Nashville doesn't exactly help.

It probably doesn't hurt Vandy also that while they didn't make a deep run in the SEC tournament as they have the last two years by fighting all the way to the championship game, having a couple extra days off compared to the last two years also might help them. Considering all the other teams that made it further at Hoover, with the exception of Ole Miss, have ran out of gas, so to speak, this could be of some benefit. Or not.
 
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ChattaVoll said:
Aside from a generally all around better overall record then Stanford this year, it helps Vanderbilt quite a bit(though may not mean a darn in the end) that 1) They have the home field advantage, and 2)Stanford having played 5 games over a period of 4 day has got to be physically and mentally exhausting on their players, even with a few days rest in between. The fact that they will have to travel again to be in Nashville doesn't exactly help.

It probably doesn't hurt Vandy also that while they didn't make a deep run in the SEC tournament as they have the last two years by fighting all the way to the championship game, having a couple extra days off compared to the last two years also might help them. Considering all the other teams that made it further at Hoover, with the exception of Ole Miss, have ran out of gas, so to speak, this could be of some benefit. Or not.
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I've always noticed a higher than expected correlation between teams going out quickly in Hoover and doing well in NCAA's. Obviously some years and some teams have just been that much better than their conference competition, see VU and UF in 2011. But at the same time, SC was 2 (and 3) and out (respectively) in Hoover during their National Championship seasons. Who knows why that would help or if it does at all but there does seem to be a little bit of an association.

I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Vanderbilt turn on the jets and blow through the rest of the postseason pretty uninhibited.
 
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Currently in the super regionals it's all to easy for Vandy steamrolling Stanford 10-0 in the top of the fourth.
 
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firestorm said:
Currently in the super regionals it's all to easy for Vandy steamrolling Stanford 10-0 in the top of the fourth.
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Vandy 11, Stanford 6. Vanderbilt advances within one game of Omaha, Tim Corbin advances within one game of a pay raise.
 
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ChattaVoll said:
Vandy 11, Stanford 6. Vanderbilt advances within one game of Omaha, Tim Corbin advances within one game of a pay raise.
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Is this meant to be mockery?

Vandy like the mets are damn familiar with the plague of finding a heartbreaking way to blow it.

Stanford wins game 2 5-4 on a walk off homer to force a game 3.

Currently 5-1 vandy in bottom of third for Stanford with runners on 3rd and 2nd one one out.
 
#49
#49
Wow and routine play to first can't make it with pop up after a stop on what could have been base hit in the middle. Ball thrown at home but slide helps Stanford score in a damn close one.

Also deep field hit resulted in a run scored, and a triple.

Vandy escapes bottom of third but not before Stanford avalanched them scoring 4 major runs.
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A topnotch nailbiter it appears this will be indeed for the winner take all advances to the cws.
 
#50
#50
Throw to first backfires misses so Stanford runners on 2 and 3 no one out with runners advancing.
 
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