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Realizing that the SEC requires the least amount of Regular Season games against fellow SEC teams didn't seem like that big of a deal.
But, I have to hand it to them, when you see Alabama and Georgia has played each other in a Regular Season game ONCE in the last 15 years is hilarious.
Anyone know what the SEC Payout per School is compared to other conferences??
 
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Advol said:
Realizing that the SEC requires the least amount of Regular Season games against fellow SEC teams didn't seem like that big of a deal.
But, I have to hand it to them, when you see Alabama and Georgia has played each other in a Regular Season game ONCE in the last 15 years is hilarious.
Anyone know what the SEC Payout per School is compared to other conferences??
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And UGA and Bama won't play each other through 25 according to the SEC rotation schedule set a few years ago.
 
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Advol said:
Realizing that the SEC requires the least amount of Regular Season games against fellow SEC teams didn't seem like that big of a deal.
But, I have to hand it to them, when you see Alabama and Georgia has played each other in a Regular Season game ONCE in the last 15 years is hilarious.
Anyone know what the SEC Payout per School is compared to other conferences??
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2020 and 2015. Then 2008 and 2007.

Looking back its looks like they typically played back to back. So a long gap, then two games, home and home.
 
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Florida- 2023 Arkansas, 2024 @Auburn, 2025 Miss. St

Georgia- 2023 Ole Miss, 2024 @ Texas A&M, 2025 LSU

Kentucky- 2023 Alabama, 2024 @Arkansas, 2025 Texas A&M

Mizzou- 2023 LSU, 2024 @Ole Miss, 2025 Alabama

South Carolina- 2023 Miss St, 2024 @Alabama, 2025 Ole Miss

Tennessee- 2023 Texas A&M, 2024 @Miss St, 2025 Auburn

Vanderbilt- 2023 Auburn, 2024 @ LSU , 2025 Arkansas
 
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onevol74 said:
Since 2007, Tennessee and Auburn have played both of them 15 times. Where is the equality here? Fix the damn schedules.
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We play Vandy every year. Auburn doesnt.

There is no way to play a regular schedule, read that as having rivals, and for the schedules to work out fairly.

We played Bama because we were both best in our divisions at the time. They did the same for every pairing. Trying to pair like with like.

Bama TN
LSU Florida
Auburn UGA
Mississipli State Kentucky
Ole Miss Vandy

And most of those series are near 50%, so they did a good job.

If you want to be the man, beat the man. Otherwise we could be Kentucky. Beat up on the small guys and think we are great and in the Top 10, then play a real team and run into the buzzsaw.
 
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onevol74 said:
Since 2007, Tennessee and Auburn have played both of them 15 times. Where is the equality here? Fix the damn schedules.
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I was correcting the incorrect claim that there had only been one regular season meeting between UGA and UA in the last 15 years. With regards to “fixing the schedule” any number of teams can claim persecution during a given period. Tennessee could ask that Alabama be removed as their permanent rival. UGA has not been that big a problem until 2017.

Got a solution? Offer it out. My guess is it gets better after the divisions break up. But if the SEC keeps certain rivalries intact, there will always be a team(s) complaining about their rivals being better than they are all the time.
 
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GroverCleveland said:
I was correcting the incorrect claim that there had only been one regular season meeting between UGA and UA in the last 15 years. With regards to “fixing the schedule” any number of teams can claim persecution during a given period. Tennessee could ask that Alabama be removed as their permanent rival. UGA has not been that big a problem until 2017.

Got a solution? Offer it out. My guess is it gets better after the divisions break up. But if the SEC keeps certain rivalries intact, there will always be a team(s) complaining about their rivals being better than they are all the time.
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The SEC should either go back to a ten team league or play more conference games to make it more equitable. But you know they will not shed teams.
 
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onevol74 said:
The SEC should either go back to a ten team league or play more conference games to make it more equitable. But you know they will not shed teams.
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Yeah, the ten team league thing ain’t happening.

To your other point about more conference games, which gets pointed out by other conferences, I ask this: what inherently makes that more equitable? What does equitable even mean in this context?

Not being argumentative, just wanting to understand the point of view.
 
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Advol said:
But, I have to hand it to them, when you see Alabama and Georgia has played each other in a Regular Season game ONCE in the last 15 years is hilarious.
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Where did you "see" that? Because that's completely false.
 
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VolPack22 said:
Alabama was the fourth best team in the SEC this season. I don’t see any issues with the scheduling 😁
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Think of poor Florida. They had to play the Vols, UGA and LSU.

Edited to blue font as apparently the joke was not that obvious.
 
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GroverCleveland said:
Think of poor Florida. They had to play the Vols, UGA and LSU.
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And mighty FSU 😉

Seriously, they were lucky they weren’t a 4 win team this season with those miraculous escapes against Utah and USF. I’m glad they have Butch Jones 2.0 in Sunbelt Billy.
 
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GroverCleveland said:
Got a solution? Offer it out. My guess is it gets better after the divisions break up. But if the SEC keeps certain rivalries intact, there will always be a team(s) complaining about their rivals being better than they are all the time.
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My solution would be a fully rotated 10 game SEC schedule, once OU and UTx join. That way every team plays every other team two years out of three. Have the schedule and the dates set randomly, with bye weeks clustered around mid season. Nobody wants this because everyone would like to try and game the system to their advantage.
 
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DawgInterloper said:
My solution would be a fully rotated 10 game SEC schedule, once OU and UTx join. That way every team plays every other team two years out of three. Have the schedule and the dates set randomly, with bye weeks clustered around mid season. Nobody wants this because everyone would like to try and game the system to their advantage.
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And there are some rivalries that teams are not going to want to give up. I know UT wants to drop Bama, but doubt UGA, Auburn and Florida would want to give their games up.
 
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VolPack22 said:
Alabama was the fourth best team in the SEC this season. I don’t see any issues with the scheduling 😁
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Well, THIS year 😂, but for a long time it was a very lopsided ‘rivalry’ and really sucked for us lol (and in defense (sorta) nobody saw Bama being very good when they made those schedules I’m sure.. I know I didn’t lol… don’t they negotiate those suckers years and years in advance? I’m showing my age, but I can remember when playing Arkansas was a bigger deal lol… nothing lasts forever and the tables will reverse inevitably
 
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I sure look forward to the potential reorganization of scheduling and hope we don’t get screwed 😂 (but we already have one of the hardest schedules in the country.. so doubt it is possible)
 
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GroverCleveland said:
And there are some rivalries that teams are not going to want to give up. I know UT wants to drop Bama, but doubt UGA, Auburn and Florida would want to give their games up.
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If rivalries really are the hang-up (and I'm skeptical about that, more likely just a way to jockey for advantage), then go with an 8, 9, or 10 game fully rotated random conference schedule. Tell teams they're free to pre-select their rivals, and then tweak the scheduling algorithm to schedule them as a non-conference game in years where those games don't appear on the conference slate.

I think it would be dumb for any team to schedule that way and we'd quickly discover that the annual rivalries weren't really set in stone. Given that choice, I bet playing rivalry games two of three seasons (or 3 of 5, etc.) would suddenly be fine with everyone, including fans. One reason I like the 10 game conference slate (besides the fact that it maximizes conference pair-ups) is that it would force some stubborn UGA traditionalists to finally admit that it's counterproductive to play Georgia Tech every season.
 
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DawgInterloper said:
If rivalries really are the hang-up (and I'm skeptical about that, more likely just a way to jockey for advantage), then go with an 8, 9, or 10 game fully rotated random conference schedule. Tell teams they're free to schedule their rivals as a non-conference game in years where those games don't appear on the conference slate.

I think it would be dumb for any team to schedule that way and we'd quickly discover that the annual rivalries weren't really set in stone. Given that choice, I bet playing rivalry games two of three seasons (or 3 of 5, etc.) would suddenly be fine with everyone, including fans.
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First, I completely agree the solution to the rivalry conundrum was exactly what you suggest: do not count those games as conference games in particular years.

I disagree on the latter, but admit it may not be that way for all teams, because I do not know how many teams have a rivalry like, say, the Georgia-Florida game. UT doesn’t seem to have one. But the solution of not counting those as conference games at times takes care of it.
 
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