SEC QB Rankings - spot on

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#26
Well he isnt in the top 2 thats all i know. He does throw great deep ball and has had the receivers for it. That is not condusive for keeping your crappy defense off the field hence part of the reason UT's record is so bad.

He also lacks touch on the intermediate and short throws and has not shown great leadership ( body language, play in 4th). He is not a great quaterback by any stretch of the imagination, but im sure he has not been coached well and that is not his fault.

The main point ill make is the people that defend him I think are just major homers and would back a donkey back there playing QB for UT. If you placed him in another system where he did not get the kind of oppurtunities ( being behind, chaney losing his marbles and going pass happy, NFL calibur WR's) he would be exposed as what he is. A middle of the road QB with a huge arm.
 
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deckerkd said:
Bray has the best potential of any quarter back in college football. Unfortunately, he like the other UT players haven't had the benefit of a knowledgeable coaching staff to help him reach his potential. He is not ready for the NFL and consequently should stay for his senior season. Especially if Gruden comes to Tennessee. We would see a far superior quarterback in bray next season
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Stop with Gruden. Seriously.

This coaching excuse is garbage. Just because you hate Dooley doesn't mean he is inept as you wish him to be. Whether you like it or not Dooley has coached up the offense more than adequately. Not to mention Bray is being coached by the same OC who coached Drew Brees. So no, it's very doubtful you would see "a far superior QB in Bray next season" just b/c of a new staff.
 
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There is no way Tyler Wilson should be higher than Bray. Worse stats and they haven't beat any good teams either. Toss up between him and Murray, giving the edge to Murray since his team is winning.
 
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macrovol said:
Spot on? So if you could pick any QB for your SEC team right now, there are 4 you would pick ahead of Bray? BS. I MIGHT choose Manziel over Bray, but no one else comes close.
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You can't be serious. Some of you are so delusional that you refuse to see that Bray is over-rated. He hasn't won a big game yet.
 
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wolfe said:
You can't be serious. Some of you are so delusional that you refuse to see that Bray is over-rated. He hasn't won a big game yet.
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When Bray starts playing all the positions, then you can use that argument. It is a team game, which side of the team has lost games for us? I would put Florida and Georgia on Brays shoulders, because of the way they ended. But in the majority of our games, if the defense was even mediocre, most here would be sniffing Brays jock with these stats.
 
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actually Wilson has as many ints as Bray in far fewer attempts . Murray and Bray are just about tied in ints per attempt
 
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Yankee_Vol said:
Bray comes in at 5th


5. Tyler Bray, Tennessee: Bray’s overall numbers are outstanding with 3,216 yards and 29 touchdowns, and he’s probably playing his best football right now. That said, he simply hasn’t delivered in clutch situations and has thrown an SEC-high nine interceptions in league games.

Ranking the SEC's quarterbacks - SEC Blog - ESPN
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All I read was "SEC-high"... I'm an optimist!
 
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jhen713 said:
No worse than 3rd....maybe even 2nd. Do people even look at the stats? It looks like they base this crap off of wins and not how the qb plays. If we had just an avg D we would have 7 or 8 wins and he would be 2nd without a doubt.
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Many argue that the reason that Bray's numbers are huge is because he has had to play 60 minutes of football to have a chance to win slinging the ball all over the place because he had to, whereas some of the other QB's on that list have not had to play all four quarters of every game or their team started to just run the ball in the 4th QTR so as to eat up clock and thereby were not able to put up the huge numbers Brey has.

I listen to as much national sports radio as local and it does give me a little more perspective.
 
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im glad that because aj mccarron plays on the best team he is the best qb...i could quarterback that team give me a break. it is easy to play well when you don't have the pressure on you to score every single possession to even have a chance to be in a game. idk how wilson is above him either when his numbers arent as good and his team is even worse since apparently how good your team is decides who the best qb is. with an average defense we have 1 loss right now. does that make bray a better qb? what a joke
 
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macrovol said:
Spot on? So if you could pick any QB for your SEC team right now, there are 4 you would pick ahead of Bray? BS. I MIGHT choose Manziel over Bray, but no one else comes close.
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I would pick any of those who didn't choke every time he had a chance to make a play to win big games. He hasn't done it just once.... he's done it EVERY TIME going all the way back to UNC.
 
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TD10EYEC said:
Here's the thing , if we even had a average D , Bray wouldn't have even been in these "clutch" situations and we would have won most games by 2 td's or more. When u put up 350 a game and 2 or more td's a game u can't ask for much more..
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An average D changes some of the losses.... not the fact that Bray would choke when the game was in his hands. Elite talent... but no champion's heart.
 
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Blledingtangerine said:
Many argue that the reason that Bray's numbers are huge is because he has had to play 60 minutes of football to have a chance to win slinging the ball all over the place because he had to, whereas some of the other QB's on that list have not had to play all four quarters of every game or their team started to just run the ball in the 4th QTR so as to eat up clock and thereby were not able to put up the huge numbers Brey has.

I listen to as much national sports radio as local and it does give me a little more perspective.
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I understand that. I still don't think that comes into play as much as wins and losses.
 
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TD10EYEC said:
Here's the thing , if we even had a average D , Bray wouldn't have even been in these "clutch" situations and we would have won most games by 2 td's or more. When u put up 350 a game and 2 or more td's a game u can't ask for much more..
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........against what kind of defenses?
 
#45
#45
With a good coach the attitude and reads/ knowledge will come. Fairly sure he doesn't call fronts/mike and good percentage of the time only makes half-field reads. That isn't very much. Solid mechanics are there and he has the traditional build for the NFL.
 
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What you folks need to realize is that with the current rookie salary cap there is not as much incentive for a guy to stay in school.
 
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wolfe said:
You can't be serious. Some of you are so delusional that you refuse to see that Bray is over-rated. He hasn't won a big game yet.
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I just dont get it?:crazy:

Why do you people post of the football forum? When you dont now anything about the sport.
 
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macrovol said:
Spot on? So if you could pick any QB for your SEC team right now, there are 4 you would pick ahead of Bray? BS. I MIGHT choose Manziel over Bray, but no one else comes close.
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Take off your orange glasses and look at the stats in SEC games for Mr. Bray....Also...wonder how good other QBs in the SEC would look throwing the ball to a CP and JH behind our O-line?

9 picks in SEC games tells a true story...best game was against S. Carolina..
 
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bam15 said:
With a good coach the attitude and reads/ knowledge will come. Fairly sure he doesn't call fronts/mike and good percentage of the time only makes half-field reads. That isn't very much. Solid mechanics are there and he has the traditional build for the NFL.
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His mechanics are terrible (repetitively throws off the back foot) and he holds the ball too long and takes more time to get rid of it than Tim Tebow--late getting the ball out and to the receiver....and it has cost us...especially in the Missouri game when 83 was open on that 4th and 3 play in OT....Having a strong arm and superstar receivers does not make a good QB...

All of you homers don't seem to remember that Casey Clausen was much better than TB...and where is he playing?
 
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MikeVol44 said:
Take off your orange glasses and look at the stats in SEC games for Mr. Bray....Also...wonder how good other QBs in the SEC would look throwing the ball to a CP and JH behind our O-line?

9 picks in SEC games tells a true story...best game was against S. Carolina..
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LOL

ok ok ok.......then take any QB you want, put them with our Defense, and I bet they come out with a 6-6 record.

Half of the picks Bray has thrown has been last ditch plays where he just threw it up there for hopes and dreams.
 
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