SEC rep keeps TN out?

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Neyland Law Vol said:
All their starters played against TN. They had a couple of bench warmers out. Tn had its best player out in Maymon. So.

Middle, Boise, Lasalle - none of these teams should have been in over TN.
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If you think Yeguete and Frazier aren't important then stop watching basketball.
 
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VolGee4 said:
I am convinced and no one will change my mind that if we had scheduled two directional schools instead of Virginia and Memphis, we are in. Sad state of affairs.

I know that we are talking about the 65-68 ranked teams, but the problem with all of this is the committee is never consistent from year to year. You think Coach Martin gets in this year when he had a 30 RPI at MSU? Damn right he would. Man can't get a break.
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If you are on the bubble of a 68 team tournament.....u can't complain either way
 
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Actually you may have a slight point. Wouldn't put it past the "NCAA" to thumb their proverbial noses even slightly due to our dominance of the BCS. The NCAA as a whole is a joke...
 
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volbeast33 said:
If you are on the bubble of a 68 team tournament.....u can't complain either way
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Well it is what is. If there were 128 teams, then someone would have an argument. You compare with the spots available. Again, coach Martin must think he is snakebite. 30 RPI at Missouri State in a much better conference than MTSU and can't get in.
 
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utvolpj said:
that might be true if the tourney was the 68 best teams
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Truer words were never spoken. The NCAA tourny is only accurate for about the first 4 seeds in each bracket, after that it is about handing out participation trophies.
 
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Neyland Law Vol said:
Only 3 teams from the SEC get in? I know the conference wasn't great, but it's not that bad. Look at all the directional schools in the NCAA - it looks like a division II tourney. Ole Miss with 26 wins, wins the conference tourney and is only a 12 seed?

Clearly Boise State, Lasalle and Middle TN play such tougher schedules and tougher conferences in the Committees eyes that TN doesn't belong.

The SEC should have had at least 4 teams in.

Do you agree that the SEC is better than what the committee gave them?
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It's the SECs punishment for being so good in football. Typical NCAA logic
 
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If anyone wants to know why we ain't dancin' it's simple: a 1-6 record vs. Alabama, Georgia and Ole Miss. It's all fine and good to schedule the way UT does in the preseason. I feel certain that the Commitee was taking that into consideration. But when you lose in conference play to some of the weaker teams (such as Georgia twice) in a league that is 8th best nationally, you get snubbed in the end.
 
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Every year the committee gets criticism of how they pick the field and for years they are bashed because certain mid-majors supposedly "deserved" to be in the field, but were left out. Well this year they decided to snub many teams from power conferences and instead put the LaSalle's, MTSU's and St. Mary's in the field. The politics of sports is what sucks balls. If you don't think politics plays some role then you aren't paying attention.

You could make a case for any power team on the bubble or any mid-major on the bubble. They decided to be different and pick a number of mid-majors this year. UT, Ky, Virginia and Maryland ended up getting the shaft because of that.
 
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OrangeBalls said:
Every year the committee gets criticism of how they pick the field and for years they are bashed because certain mid-majors supposedly "deserved" to be in the field, but were left out. Well this year they decided to snub many teams from power conferences and instead put the LaSalle's, MTSU's and St. Mary's in the field. The politics of sports is what sucks balls. If you don't think politics plays some role then you aren't paying attention.

You could make a case for any power team on the bubble or any mid-major on the bubble. They decided to be different and pick a number of mid-majors this year. UT, Ky, Virginia and Maryland ended up getting the shaft because of that.
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That honestly is a big reason I thought we'd make it. I didn't think every single 'last 4 in' team would be a mid-major. I thought they'd include just 1 major conference school to balance it out and satisfy those 'politics' you mentioned.
 
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Think about this – the SEC as it has been for the past 20 years (without Txam and Mizz) only got TWO spots in the 68 team field (ole miss and UF). THAT is BS! When is the last time the SEC only had 2 teams? I don't think it's ever happened?
 
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Also - the A 10 and the Mountain West get more teams in the NCAA tournament than the SEC and ACC combined? That shows there was something not right about this selection committee.
 
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This is proof that we need to stop rooting for other SEC teams in CFB and focus all our efforts to rooting for our league to do better in Bball.

Teams like Bama can't lose games to Mercer, ect.

It drags the whole league down.
 
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Neyland Law Vol said:
Also - the A 10 and the Mountain West get more teams in the NCAA tournament than the SEC and ACC combined? That shows there was something not right about this selection committee.
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It would take a major dump in ratings for the NCAA to pull their head out of their rectum and correct this. I wonder what Mike Slive is doing about it.
 
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I agree with Neyland Law Vol. Even though Tennessee's resume had flaws, the question is are there 37 teams with at large births to NCAA with better resumes. The answer is no imo.

The core problem with NCAA selection committee approach is the committee sets the rules after the season is over instead of before. Temas should clearly understand in advance what will be stressed and in what order. Is it last 12 games, strength of NC schedule, wins on the road, wins over top 50 teams, etc. SET THE RULES IN ADVANCE to minimize the politics, like this year putting in as many small non power conf teams in.

The process is a joke.
 
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I'm not expecting any TN fan to agree--but we didn't deserve to get in and I heard someone mention Maryland not getting in. Let me set you straight there friend Maryland lost to Boston College one of the worst teams in the ACC--other then beating Duke they were nothing to write home about. I know people want to piss and moan but the facts are the SEC was weak this year...should we have gotten in? Maybe--our OOC schedule was OK but we didn't get the wins (UMass? Oklahoma State? Virginia? Georgetown?) and losing season series to Ole Miss and Georgia was pretty damaging. If not for the fact Ole Miss decided to rise up and win the SEC--Florida and Missouri probably would have been it. The SEC wasn't good and did we get punished? Yes--if we were in the Big 10 or Big East we might have been in--there is bias. Villanova and Illinois were not what I would call powerhouses but they got in due to both their respective conferences racking up the bids. JMO, I think we would have only been getting a birth in the tourney if we won the SEC--which we were totally capable of but it the effort from this team was too uneven and Martin couldn't sustain consistency from this team--hey we got hot late but the fact is you had no impressive road wins and nearly all your good victories were at home. I wasn't expecting to get thrown a bone this year...maybe next year.
 
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volswillrise12 said:
I'm not expecting any TN fan to agree--but we didn't deserve to get in and I heard someone mention Maryland not getting in. Let me set you straight there friend Maryland lost to Boston College one of the worst teams in the ACC--other than beating Duke they were nothing to write home about. I know people want to piss and moan but the facts are the SEC was weak this year...should we have gotten in? Maybe--our OOC schedule was ok but we didn't get the wins (UMass? Oklahoma State? Virginia? Georgetown?) and losing season series to Ole Miss and Georgia was pretty damaging. If not for the fact Ole Miss decided to rise up and win the SEC--Florida and Missouri probably would have been it. JMO, I think we would have only been getting a birth in the tourney if we won the SEC--which we were totally capable of but CM--hey we got hot late but fact is you had no impressive road wins and nearly all your good victories were at home. I wasn't expecting to get thrown a bone this year...maybe next year.
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UT beat UMASS. They also beat Wichita St. They had 9 Top-100 RPI wins. More than a lot of teams. They had as many Top 50-RPI wins as St. Mary's and LaSalle combined who both made the tourney.

And no, UT wouldn't have had to win the SEC tourney to get a bid. If they would've beaten Bama in the SEC tourney then they would've made the tourney.
 
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The SEC has to schedule better out of conference. How the majority of SEC teams are scheduling OOC is absolutely killing our RPI and making the conference look worse in the public eye. The committee made it obvious you don't have to win the games, it's a win-win.
 
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TooLegit2Quit said:
The SEC has to schedule better out of conference. How the majority of SEC teams are scheduling OOC is absolutely killing our RPI and making the conference look worse in the public eye. The committee made it obvious you don't have to win the games, it's a win-win.
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The committee also said that OM was in regardless of the championship game, and their OOC schedule was horrible. I think we got turned down for playing too many good teams and losing.

Bottom line is SEC schools can't lose to Mercer, Southern, Winthrop, Elon, and Youngstown State. Bad.
 
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