SEC should get rid of Ole Miss and Mississippi State?

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If they were going to get rid of two it should be Vandy and one of the Mississippi schools.
 
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supervol01 said:
Look at this article. You can definitely tell the guy knows nothing of tradition of the SEC.

SEC should be like Big 12 and get rid of Ole Miss, Mississippi State – Open Mike – Orlando Sentinel
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Ole Miss and Mississippi State have very little to do with the tradition and prestige of the SEC.

They really wouldn't be missed that much... the Egg Bowl, really? And Mississippi's second biggest rival is Memphis, lol.

I'm not saying anything should be done or we should kick them out - no reason to imo... we'd lose the SECCG.. and just seems like more harm than good - but no reason to pretend those 2 schools are important to the conference's rep or it's success.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
Ole Miss and Mississippi State have very little to do with the tradition and prestige of the SEC.

They really wouldn't be missed that much... the Egg Bowl, really? And Mississippi's second biggest rival is Memphis, lol.

I'm not saying anything should be done or we should kick them out - no reason to imo... we'd lose the SECCG.. and just seems like more harm than good - but no reason to pretend those 2 schools are important to the conference's rep or it's success.
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Neither are Vandy, Arkansas, or South Carolina, but you don't just start kicking teams out for no reason.. These teams are in the SEC, and they are better than anyone else that we could get. They are here for a reason, and I do not see a reason in thinking about letting them go.

I mean, if we could get Texas and OK to replace them then f*** em. hahah but other than that...
 
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TylerD said:
Neither are Vandy, Arkansas, or South Carolina, but you don't just start kicking teams out for no reason.. These teams are in the SEC, and they are better than anyone else that we could get. They are here for a reason, and I do not see a reason in thinking about letting them go.

I mean, if we could get Texas and OK to replace them then f*** em. hahah but other than that...
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Yeah - that's why I said there would be no reason to.

And you really think we couldn't replace USCjr/Ole Miss/Miss State? wouldn't be too tough imo - Mississippi State is atleast solid in basketball though..

What makes you think we couldn't get Clemson to replace USCjr? That's definitely a step up in both sports.. USCjr may have better fan support though - not sure.

Taking a team like Louisville would pretty much be the equivalent of one of those 3 teams (markets aside)..
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
Yeah - that's why I said there would be no reason to.

And you really think we couldn't replace USCjr/Ole Miss/Miss State? wouldn't be too tough imo - Mississippi State is atleast solid in basketball though..

What makes you think we couldn't get Clemson to replace USCjr? That's definitely a step up in both sports.. USCjr may have better fan support though - not sure.

Taking a team like Louisville would pretty much be the equivalent of one of those 3 teams (markets aside)..
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I think we could replace them, but I just don't see why we would.. I guess I just like the SEC the way it is, and if we were to do anything adding teams to our already dominate conference would be the only way to go. IMO. I just don't like the idea of getting rid of teams.
 
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I agree - I don't see any reason to change what works since the CFB landscape isn't changing drastically like we thought.
 
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VOLinthaATL said:
Why?
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No need to have two schools in Mississippi and while
Vandy brings some things to the table (Academics, baseball & BB) they are such a football drain and there is no need to have two schools from Tennessee either.
 
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TylerD said:
I think we could replace them, but I just don't see why we would.. I guess I just like the SEC the way it is, and if we were to do anything adding teams to our already dominate conference would be the only way to go. IMO. I just don't like the idea of getting rid of teams.
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It's just a hypothetical. Nobody is saying we really should.
 
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If every conference followed the Big 12 (10)'s lead in not distributing revenues equally, I think the tax-exempt status for college athletics would eventually be lifted.
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JZVOL said:
No need to have two schools in Mississippi and while
Vandy brings some things to the table (Academics, baseball & BB) they are such a football drain and there is no need to have two schools from Tennessee either.
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Should the Big Ten get rid of Northwestern? How about the ACC getting rid of Duke?
 
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If any school deserves to be dropped, I'd say it was Miss. State--remote, weak athletic program overall, pretty boring. Does anybody ever want to go to Starkville? Total lack of sizzle.
 
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VOLinthaATL said:
Should the Big Ten get rid of Northwestern? How about the ACC getting rid of Duke?
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Has Vandy won a BB national title or considered one of the best programs in history?

Northwestern has played in the Citrus Bowl, Rose Bowl and over the last 14 years average a bowl game every other year. They also tied for first in the Big Ten in 2000.

It is an insult to Duke and Northwestern to compare them to Vandy.
 
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armchair said:
If any school deserves to be dropped, I'd say it was Miss. State--remote, weak athletic program overall, pretty boring. Does anybody ever want to go to Starkville? Total lack of sizzle.
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Name one conference that doesn't have one program that would be considered a weak athletic program overall.
 
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VOLinthaATL said:
Name one conference that doesn't have one program that would be considered a weak athletic program overall.
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The point of the thread is to hypothetically trim the fat.

MSU would certainly be a candidate in this scenario along with Vandy, Arkansas and SCAR.
 
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JZVOL said:
Has Vandy won a national title?

Northwestern has played in the Citrus Bowl, Rose Bowl and over the last 14 years average a bowl game every other year. They also tied for first in the Big Ten in 2000.

It is an insult to Duke and Northwestern to compare them to Vandy.
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They're historically weak football programs. The Big Ten is weak so don't act like winning it one year or winning enough games to go to a bowl game is a big accomplishment.

You made a point to say a state doesn't need 2 schools in the same conference which is absurd.

Ok, if you don't like Duke, how about the ACC get rid of Virginia. No reason to have 2 schools from that state.
 
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JZVOL said:
The point of the thread is to hypothetically trim the fat.

MSU would certainly be a candidate in this scenario along with Vandy, Arkansas and SCAR.
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So every conference with historically weak programs should cut them off completely and only let strong programs be a part of it? Do you want the Royals to drop out of the AL Central? How about the Pirates get the hell out of the NL Central while we're at it.
 
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VOLinthaATL said:
They're historically weak football programs. The Big Ten is weak so don't act like winning it one year or winning enough games to go to a bowl game is a big accomplishment.

You made a point to say a state doesn't need 2 schools in the same conference which is absurd.

Ok, if you don't like Duke, how about the ACC get rid of Virginia. No reason to have 2 schools from that state.
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It's not a general statement saying there is no point in having two schools from the same state.

I am saying, in this specific situation there is no need to have two schools from Mississippi especially when neither school is exceptional at anything.

When you are Vandy or N'Western winning enough games to go to a bowl is HUGE especially when Vandy's winning % since 1960 is .296

N'Western FB in the past 15 years >>>>>>>>>>> Vandy FB.
 
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VOLinthaATL said:
So every conference with historically weak programs should cut them off completely and only let strong programs be a part of it? Do you want the Royals to drop out of the AL Central? How about the Pirates get the hell out of the NL Central while we're at it.
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Good Lord man. I'm just playing along with the hypothetical scenario. I believe I already posted I'm not saying this should happen... just playing along.
 
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