SEC Teams in The NCAA Tourney

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blueblood said:
Ky tied for reg season championship. Both teams got a trophy. Kentucky had the better season and was higher in the polls. Kentucky beat them in the sec tournament.

After thinking about it, I think the only real explanation is to set up the KY/Indy and TX/a&m games.
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That or A&M's OOC (Texas, Baylor, Gonzaga, Syracuse, FGCU) being better than UK's (Duke, Louisville) are about all I've got.
 
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TrueOrange said:
That or A&M's OOC (Texas, Baylor, Gonzaga, Syracuse, FGCU) being better than UK's (Duke, Louisville) are about all I've got.
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Kentucky had a 11 RPI overall SOS of 25 & OOCSOS of 12
A&M had a 18 RPI overall SOS of 51 and OOCSOS of 43

UK got it without Vaseline :)
 
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blueblood said:
Ky tied for reg season championship. Both teams got a trophy. Kentucky had the better season and was higher in the polls. Kentucky beat them in the sec tournament.

After thinking about it, I think the only real explanation is to set up the KY/Indy and TX/a&m games.
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Calling the regular season title a tie is BS. Y'all played straight up and aTm won. Head to head trumps any other scenario.
 
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VolnJC said:
Kentucky had a 11 RPI overall SOS of 25 & OOCSOS of 12
A&M had a 18 RPI overall SOS of 51 and OOCSOS of 43

UK got it without Vaseline :)
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I don't get the OOC SOS in UK's favor unless KU weights it heavily. UK played 4 top 100 RPI teams OOC. Texas AM played 7 top 100 RPI teams OOC.
 
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Sounds like UK's losses to some teams that weren't in the field hurt them.

(Maybe the UT and Auburn losses?)
 
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#61
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VolnJC said:
The only thing I could see was A&M was 5-1 vs top 50 and UK was 3-2
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I'm saying i don't see how UK's schedule was conisdered tougher. I guess cause KU, UofL and Duke are all top 20 where most of Texas AM's OOC opponents were in the 20-70 range. Still, Texas AM played a greater quantity of quality teams and they should count for a bigger part of SOS. The discrepancy in SOS in UK's favor is confusing to me.

Edit: I missed Texas AM playing ASU who's RPI is 100. So they played 8 top 100 teams OOC compared to UK's 4.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
I'm saying i don't see how UK's schedule was conisdered tougher. I guess cause KU, UofL and Duke are all top 20 where most of Texas AM's OOC opponents were in the 20-70 range. Still, Texas AM played a greater quantity of quality teams and they should count for a bigger part of SOS. The discrepancy in SOS in UK's favor is confusing to me.

Edit: I missed Texas AM playing ASU who's RPI is 100. So they played 8 top 100 teams OOC compared to UK's 4.
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strangely enough UK played ASU too and beat them..I think the difference is that UK played 5 teams in top 20 RPI and A&M only played two
 
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The other reason for the A&M and UK seedlings is probably location. They will keep them closer to home as long as it is only about a seed difference. A&M plays in OKC, while UK plays in Des Moine.
 
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LSU snubs the NIT -- did they really think they were good enough for the NCAA T ?
 
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VolnJC said:
I was close, I said UK 3 and A&M 4..I also got the seed right but was wrong about the team..anyhow SEC only got 3...gotta be the lowest total in years
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Yeah since waayyyyy back in 2014 (Ky/Fl/Tenn) and all three made it at least to the sweet 16. Ky and Fl went to the final four.
 
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StarRaider said:
Yeah since waayyyyy back in 2014 (Ky/Fl/Tenn) and all three made it at least to the sweet 16. Ky and Fl went to the final four.
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Wow, I didn't realize it had been that recent..at least the conference showed up once they got in the tourney..I don't see that happening this year though
 
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508mikey said:
LSU snubs the NIT -- did they really think they were good enough for the NCAA T ?
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They probably are going to fire Jones and don't want him coaching in any tourneys..or it could be a cost thing..I think most schools lose money in the lesser tournaments..and LSU is having some financial issues anyway
 
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VolnJC said:
They probably are going to fire Jones and don't want him coaching in any tourneys..or it could be a cost thing..I think most schools lose money in the lesser tournaments..and LSU is having some financial issues anyway
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I don't think teams lose money in the NIT anymore after it was bought by the NCAA and ESPN got involved in televising pretty much every game. The other 3 tournaments I'm pretty sure teams do lose money.

LSU not going is supposedly because Simmons said he wasn't going to play if they went to the NIT.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
I'm saying i don't see how UK's schedule was conisdered tougher. I guess cause KU, UofL and Duke are all top 20 where most of Texas AM's OOC opponents were in the 20-70 range. Still, Texas AM played a greater quantity of quality teams and they should count for a bigger part of SOS. The discrepancy in SOS in UK's favor is confusing to me.

Edit: I missed Texas AM playing ASU who's RPI is 100. So they played 8 top 100 teams OOC compared to UK's 4.
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Not that I'm helping UK here, but we played 6.

1. @Kansas
17. Louisville
19. Duke.
72. OSU
98. ASU
99. @UCLA
 
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OrangeBalls said:
Vandy got in because of SOS. They didn't really beat anyone other than A & M or Ky though. However, the committee always rewards you if you play a tougher schedule. Vandy played a much tougher OOC schedule than So Car did.
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Vandie had the 2nd lowest strength of schedule of all teams that made the tourney. Taken with their 13 losses, awful road record, 60 RPI and 2-7 record vs top 50 teams, I strongly contend that they shouldn't have sniffed an invite.
 
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KBVol said:
Vandie had the 2nd lowest strength of schedule of all teams that made the tourney. Taken with their 13 losses, awful road record, 60 RPI and 2-7 record vs top 50 teams, I strongly contend that they shouldn't have sniffed an invite.
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It seems they reward showing up and losing to a lot of top 100 teams more than they reward a team like Monmouth, who played less top 100 teams, but at least had a winning record.
 
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LittleCat said:
Not that I'm helping UK here, but we played 6.

1. @Kansas
17. Louisville
19. Duke.
72. OSU
98. ASU
99. @UCLA
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I missed ASU earlier and credited them with 5 in another post I believe. On warren nolan they were 100 and UCLA was 103. Either way the difference is negligible and TAMU won the conference over an 18 game schedule which should be weighted more than the tournament. We saw UT and UGA get hot in the tournament but we saw their true performance throughout the regular season.
 
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