SEC to expand again?

[Gramps]

I think the SEC needs a NC and a VA team.

VA Tech and NC State would be good additions, imo.

 

[Vol4life25]

I'm saying that ESPN and CBS would say that they add no new TV sets and would not pay an extra nickel on the TV contract if GTU joined. Which means everyone makes less money.

Or it can come out of UT's cut.

I don't give a crap about money.....

Everything is about money these days, I want southeren schools in the SOUTH eastern conference. Mizzo or A&M are not southern schools. So might as well add Cal now.

 

[bamawriter]

I don't give a crap about money.....

Everything is about money these days, I want southeren schools in the SOUTH eastern conference. Mizzo or A&M are not southern schools. So might as well add Cal now.

I want what is best for Alabama, thus I want what is best for the conference Bama is in. Pissing away money on 'southern' schools is not what is best for Alabama or the SEC.

 

[crusse10]

Let's be honest, the coalition against Louisville, Georgia Tech, Clemson, and Florida State will continue to block all of those schools. The only chances I believe we have to expand westward and actually gain from that expansion is the Virginia schools or the North Carolina schools (Duke and UNC).

 

[VolsSportsFan]

I think the SEC needs a NC and a VA team.

VA Tech and NC State would be good additions, imo.

I'd say these 2 have the best shot. It opens up 2 new markets.

Georgia Tech, Louisville, Clemson, and FSU likely have pretty much a zero shot at getting in because they're already in an SEC state.

Plus they already play their SEC rival every year anyway.

 

[TrueOrange]

I think the SEC needs a NC and a VA team.

VA Tech and NC State would be good additions, imo.

I'd say these 2 have the best shot. It opens up 2 new markets.

Georgia Tech, Louisville, Clemson, and FSU likely have pretty much a zero shot at getting in because they're already in an SEC state.

Plus they already play their SEC rival every year anyway.

NC State is might be a bit less likely than a lot of people seem to want to make it.

Of NC State's 13 member Board of Trustees that would vote on making such a move, 8 of those members are trustees elected by UNC's own Board of Governors, or in other words 8 members are put on that board by UNC (also another 1 of the 13 is a student government member, who most likely wouldn't have a vote if Missouri is of any indication).

Essentially, UNC appears to have a say (through the almost 2/3rds of the board they put in place) in the kinds of major decisions NC State makes...which makes sense, as another writer put it: "NCSU is a 'constituent institution' of the University of North Carolina system. In other words, the schools have a connection. We’re not talking Texas and Texas A&M, here."


Unless the ACC were already falling apart and UNC already in another conference, I'm not sure the members put in place by the school would just (or maybe even could just) give NC State the go to simply up and leave the ACC, possibly hurting UNC in the process.


(A lot of the NC State theory, which Clay Travis might have been the starter or at least majorly pushing the idea initially, came from the assumption that they must be in a situation of being "sick of being in big brother's shadow" since the recent addition, Texas A&M, had that kind of relationship with more recognized state school, Texas)

 

[ukvols]

NC State is might be a bit less likely than a lot of people seem to want to make it.

Of NC State's 13 member Board of Trustees that would vote on making such a move, 8 of those members are trustees elected by UNC's own Board of Governors, or in other words 8 members are put on that board by UNC (also another 1 of the 13 is a student government member, who most likely wouldn't have a vote if Missouri is of any indication).

Essentially, UNC appears to have a say (through the almost 3/4ths of the board they put in place) in the kinds of major decisions NC State makes...which makes sense, as another writer put it: "NCSU is a 'constituent institution' of the University of North Carolina system. In other words, the schools have a connection. We’re not talking Texas and Texas A&M, here."


Unless the ACC were already falling apart and UNC already in another conference, I'm not sure the members put in place by the school would just (or maybe even could just) give NC State the go to simply up and leave the ACC, possibly hurting UNC in the process.


(A lot of the NC State theory, which Clay Travis might have been the starter or at least majorly pushing the idea initially, came from the assumption that they must be in a situation of being "sick of being in big brother's shadow" since the recent addition, Texas A&M, had that kind of relationship with more recognized state school, Texas)

FWIW, 8/12 (not counting the student) is 2/3.

I have thought the NCSU to the SEC talk has been largely because people have assumed we cannot get UNC and view NCSU as the best available alternative for entry into NC.

 

[ukvols]

I'll repost my scheduling idea for a 16-team league, for the benefit of anyone who thinks we'd be too big.
I'll try to be brief.

8-game football schedule idea for a 16-team conference:
*Four permanent 4-team pods
*Two pods=one division; pods rotate every two years (divisions change every two years)
*Each team has one permanent opponent from another pod.
*Each team has one secondary opponent from another pod to play when the permanent opponent's pod rotates on.
*Each team plays four teams annually, one team four times every six years, and the other 10 teams twice each every six years.
*It only takes six years to get at least one home and home with all 15 opponents.

UT could be in a pod with UK, Vandy, and VT, have Bama as the permanent opponent, and have UF as the secondary opponent. We would unfortunately only see UGA and SCar twice each every six years though.

 

[armchair]

I hate all the conference shuffling--it's been a joke--and I hate the idea of super-conferences as there are simply too many schools. If you have 16 teams and can only play 8 of them in football--and what, maybe 10 or 12 in basketball, scheduling becomes a nightmare and essentially unfair. Some teams will have easier seasons because they played more lower-tier conference opponents. It's unwieldy and unfair. Yea, some schools will earn a bit more money in different conferences, but the conferences themselves have lost geographic cohesion and have become made-for-TV entities. When TV money starts calling the shots, you know it's FUp.

 

[Ericvol2096]

I have decided the worst thing that could ever happen to the longterm future of the Tennessee football program is an addition of teams in the states of NC and Va.

Longterm those teams would lock down most of the talent from those states a la SC and A&M.

Once we get rolling again, we will dominate those two states if they stay SEC free states.

I hope the SEC expands west if it does anything (OU, OSU)

 

[TrueOrange]

FWIW, 8/12 (not counting the student) is 2/3.

I have thought the NCSU to the SEC talk has been largely because people have assumed we cannot get UNC and view NCSU as the best available alternative for entry into NC.

Sorry I kind of half-@ssed it at the math there, embarrassing lol :banghead2:...my mind might have also wandered off to the 3/4ths approval number

I think that was also part of the reason though for the NCSU suggestion

 

[rockytop9808]

I have decided the worst thing that could ever happen to the longterm future of the Tennessee football program is an addition of teams in the states of NC and Va.

Longterm those teams would lock down most of the talent from those states a la SC and A&M.

Once we get rolling again, we will dominate those two states if they stay SEC free states.

I hope the SEC expands west if it does anything (OU, OSU)

The problem is all the talent in Virginia is five or more hours from Tech anyway. They don't get that bonus even if they join the SEC.

 

[TeazyT]

I'd like to see us add Miami and FSU. Two big names. And would add great rivalries to the SEC (Florida v. FSU, FSU v. Miami, and hell even UT v. FSU). It would lock down the state of Florida for recruiting purposes and provide some pretty intense FB, BASEBALL, and pretty good Basketball as well. Go get 'em Slive.

 

[Through_The_T]

Clemson and FSU would be very good additions. The only other place I could think of expanding to add to the conference would be further into Texas and including the fakeUT, but their ego is so big that they'd never come into the conference. They think they deserve to be independent.

 

[rockytop9808]

Clemson and FSU would be very good additions. The only other place I could think of expanding to add to the conference would be further into Texas and including the fakeUT, but their ego is so big that they'd never come into the conference. They think they deserve to be independent.

I dunno that Clemson would be a good add, but I'd be OK with them. Texas definitely not.

How's Greenville, by the way? I've possibly got a job interview down there in the next week.

 

[Through_The_T]

I dunno that Clemson would be a good add, but I'd be OK with them. Texas definitely not.

How's Greenville, by the way? I've possibly got a job interview down there in the next week.

I love it. I've lived here all my life (except 4 years in Knoxville at UT) and the area has really grown in the last 10-15 years. The downtown scene is really good and you're in a great geographical location to practically everything in the region (Beach 4 hours or less, Atlanta in 3 hours, Knoxville in 3 hours, Asheville in 1 1/2 hours, etc.).

 

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