yes, but still, sad to say, we're the only one of those 6 teams that hasn't reached the elite 8 in any of those years. Kansas and NC both won a title. Memphis was the national runner up. And i believe Michigan State made a final four run, which leaves as the lone men on the wrong side of the fence. If we can break through this year and hit a final four, then i think skies the limit for this basketball program for the next few years. We have top notch facilities, great fan support, and starting to perform on a consistent level. The only thing we're missing that the rest of those schools have is a rich tradition, and that can only be built if we get the recruits in.