Serrano is not getting the wins....

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My opinion means little on this subject because I really wouldn't be that upset if UT decided to drop baseball. But, I'd be more interested if UT could field a winner. Right now it appears that there is a competitive disadvantage. I'd like to know more about how Vandy is fielding all these incredible teams.
Other than that it's obvious this team does nothing well.

Well, a school has to field baseball in order to be in the SEC, so you're not going to get very far with that argument.

I have posted most of the following before when people have tried to compare Serrano to Raleigh, but it appears we have some new people here making the argument, so it bears repeating.

First of all, Serrano has won everywhere he has been, including when he was here as an assistant. If he can't ultimately win here, that's more of a Tennessee problem than a Serrano problem.

The Raleigh hire was not just devastating because of his poor coaching and abysmal recruiting that drove our program into the ground.

It was devastating because his four seasons here coincided with a four-year period where SEC baseball went from being a good conference to being without a doubt the best conference. While other teams were winning big and building bigger and better facilities, we had a coach everyone hated that caused fans and donors to avoid the program like the plague.

So Serrano took over a roster that would have struggled to win in the Southern Conference, not to mention the Southeastern, in the best conference in college baseball. Oh, and he has to try and recruit talent to a dead program that plays in the worst stadium in the conference. Most of our peers are playing in facilities that minor league teams would die to play in and we're still having games at a dinosaur.

So despite all that, Serrano won a fair amount of games the last three years by piecing together a lineup and pitching rotation out of players with no business playing at this level and talented underclassmen that he was able to recruit under those circumstances.

So, yes, his three-year record is comparable to Raleigh's. You can use the numbers to spin your opinion of Serrano however you want. But the numbers don't tell the whole story here. His first three seasons, Serrano had to scratch and claw with inferior talent to win games. They took a big step forward last year. Raleigh inherited an SEC roster from Delmonico and ended up squandering the talent and running off guys that were good players, including a guy like Yan Gomes who's a everyday player in MLB. They got worse every year, despite Raleigh stacking the schedule with horrible teams.

All of that said, there is no excuse for how they're playing this year. They have the talent to be competitive in this league right now. They don;t have the talent to win it this year, but they should have been in the top half of the league.

Seranno is going to have to take a hard look at his staff and the offensive "system" which just isn't working for them. They need a hitting guru in the worst way.

If you can't look at the roster and see how much more talented it is than Raleigh's last year, then I can't help you. Raleigh recruited guys whose other offers were Sun Belt and Southern Conference schools. Serrano is losing guys to the draft. He's won battles for guys with other SEC offers. He has guys on his current team that will be draft picks.
 
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Well, a school has to field baseball in order to be in the SEC, so you're not going to get very far with that argument.

I have posted most of the following before when people have tried to compare Serrano to Raleigh, but it appears we have some new people here making the argument, so it bears repeating.

First of all, Serrano has won everywhere he has been, including when he was here as an assistant. If he can't ultimately win here, that's more of a Tennessee problem than a Serrano problem.

The Raleigh hire was not just devastating because of his poor coaching and abysmal recruiting that drove our program into the ground.

It was devastating because his four seasons here coincided with a four-year period where SEC baseball went from being a good conference to being without a doubt the best conference. While other teams were winning big and building bigger and better facilities, we had a coach everyone hated that caused fans and donors to avoid the program like the plague.

So Serrano took over a roster that would have struggled to win in the Southern Conference, not to mention the Southeastern, in the best conference in college baseball. Oh, and he has to try and recruit talent to a dead program that plays in the worst stadium in the conference. Most of our peers are playing in facilities that minor league teams would die to play in and we're still having games at a dinosaur.

So despite all that, Serrano won a fair amount of games the last three years by piecing together a lineup and pitching rotation out of players with no business playing at this level and talented underclassmen that he was able to recruit under those circumstances.

So, yes, his three-year record is comparable to Raleigh's. You can use the numbers to spin your opinion of Serrano however you want. But the numbers don't tell the whole story here. His first three seasons, Serrano had to scratch and claw with inferior talent to win games. They took a big step forward last year. Raleigh inherited an SEC roster from Delmonico and ended up squandering the talent and running off guys that were good players, including a guy like Yan Gomes who's a everyday player in MLB. They got worse every year, despite Raleigh stacking the schedule with horrible teams.

All of that said, there is no excuse for how they're playing this year. They have the talent to be competitive in this league right now. They don;t have the talent to win it this year, but they should have been in the top half of the league.

Seranno is going to have to take a hard look at his staff and the offensive "system" which just isn't working for them. They need a hitting guru in the worst way.

If you can't look at the roster and see how much more talented it is than Raleigh's last year, then I can't help you. Raleigh recruited guys whose other offers were Sun Belt and Southern Conference schools. Serrano is losing guys to the draft. He's won battles for guys with other SEC offers. He has guys on his current team that will be draft picks.


The Fullerton program runs itself. Serrano didn't do anything that Garrido and Horton didn't do before him or what Vanderhook likely won't do after him. 40 wins and a super regional are a rite there.
 
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The Fullerton program runs itself. Serrano didn't do anything that Garrido and Horton didn't do before him or what Vanderhook likely won't do after him. 40 wins and a super regional are a rite there.

Well they are 20-18 this year, so guess not.
They won 34 games last year, and 51 the year before that.

So it appears as Serrano's recruited talent has left, the wins have to an extent.
 
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Well they are 20-18 this year, so guess not.
They won 34 games last year, and 51 the year before that.

So it appears as Serrano's recruited talent has left, the wins have to an extent.

Don't let facts get in the way of his argument.
 
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Well, a school has to field baseball in order to be in the SEC, so you're not going to get very far with that argument.

I have posted most of the following before when people have tried to compare Serrano to Raleigh, but it appears we have some new people here making the argument, so it bears repeating.

First of all, Serrano has won everywhere he has been, including when he was here as an assistant. If he can't ultimately win here, that's more of a Tennessee problem than a Serrano problem.

The Raleigh hire was not just devastating because of his poor coaching and abysmal recruiting that drove our program into the ground.

It was devastating because his four seasons here coincided with a four-year period where SEC baseball went from being a good conference to being without a doubt the best conference. While other teams were winning big and building bigger and better facilities, we had a coach everyone hated that caused fans and donors to avoid the program like the plague.

So Serrano took over a roster that would have struggled to win in the Southern Conference, not to mention the Southeastern, in the best conference in college baseball. Oh, and he has to try and recruit talent to a dead program that plays in the worst stadium in the conference. Most of our peers are playing in facilities that minor league teams would die to play in and we're still having games at a dinosaur.

So despite all that, Serrano won a fair amount of games the last three years by piecing together a lineup and pitching rotation out of players with no business playing at this level and talented underclassmen that he was able to recruit under those circumstances.

So, yes, his three-year record is comparable to Raleigh's. You can use the numbers to spin your opinion of Serrano however you want. But the numbers don't tell the whole story here. His first three seasons, Serrano had to scratch and claw with inferior talent to win games. They took a big step forward last year. Raleigh inherited an SEC roster from Delmonico and ended up squandering the talent and running off guys that were good players, including a guy like Yan Gomes who's a everyday player in MLB. They got worse every year, despite Raleigh stacking the schedule with horrible teams.

All of that said, there is no excuse for how they're playing this year. They have the talent to be competitive in this league right now. They don;t have the talent to win it this year, but they should have been in the top half of the league.

Seranno is going to have to take a hard look at his staff and the offensive "system" which just isn't working for them. They need a hitting guru in the worst way.

If you can't look at the roster and see how much more talented it is than Raleigh's last year, then I can't help you. Raleigh recruited guys whose other offers were Sun Belt and Southern Conference schools. Serrano is losing guys to the draft. He's won battles for guys with other SEC offers. He has guys on his current team that will be draft picks.

Bravo deer park!!! Thank you. We have a winner but just need hitting
 
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Well, a school has to field baseball in order to be in the SEC, so you're not going to get very far with that argument.

I have posted most of the following before when people have tried to compare Serrano to Raleigh, but it appears we have some new people here making the argument, so it bears repeating.

First of all, Serrano has won everywhere he has been, including when he was here as an assistant. If he can't ultimately win here, that's more of a Tennessee problem than a Serrano problem.

The Raleigh hire was not just devastating because of his poor coaching and abysmal recruiting that drove our program into the ground.

It was devastating because his four seasons here coincided with a four-year period where SEC baseball went from being a good conference to being without a doubt the best conference. While other teams were winning big and building bigger and better facilities, we had a coach everyone hated that caused fans and donors to avoid the program like the plague.

So Serrano took over a roster that would have struggled to win in the Southern Conference, not to mention the Southeastern, in the best conference in college baseball. Oh, and he has to try and recruit talent to a dead program that plays in the worst stadium in the conference. Most of our peers are playing in facilities that minor league teams would die to play in and we're still having games at a dinosaur.

So despite all that, Serrano won a fair amount of games the last three years by piecing together a lineup and pitching rotation out of players with no business playing at this level and talented underclassmen that he was able to recruit under those circumstances.

So, yes, his three-year record is comparable to Raleigh's. You can use the numbers to spin your opinion of Serrano however you want. But the numbers don't tell the whole story here. His first three seasons, Serrano had to scratch and claw with inferior talent to win games. They took a big step forward last year. Raleigh inherited an SEC roster from Delmonico and ended up squandering the talent and running off guys that were good players, including a guy like Yan Gomes who's a everyday player in MLB. They got worse every year, despite Raleigh stacking the schedule with horrible teams.

All of that said, there is no excuse for how they're playing this year. They have the talent to be competitive in this league right now. They don;t have the talent to win it this year, but they should have been in the top half of the league.

Seranno is going to have to take a hard look at his staff and the offensive "system" which just isn't working for them. They need a hitting guru in the worst way.

If you can't look at the roster and see how much more talented it is than Raleigh's last year, then I can't help you. Raleigh recruited guys whose other offers were Sun Belt and Southern Conference schools. Serrano is losing guys to the draft. He's won battles for guys with other SEC offers. He has guys on his current team that will be draft picks.

well said.......:good!:
 
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Well, a school has to field baseball in order to be in the SEC, so you're not going to get very far with that argument.

I have posted most of the following before when people have tried to compare Serrano to Raleigh, but it appears we have some new people here making the argument, so it bears repeating.

First of all, Serrano has won everywhere he has been, including when he was here as an assistant. If he can't ultimately win here, that's more of a Tennessee problem than a Serrano problem.

The Raleigh hire was not just devastating because of his poor coaching and abysmal recruiting that drove our program into the ground.

It was devastating because his four seasons here coincided with a four-year period where SEC baseball went from being a good conference to being without a doubt the best conference. While other teams were winning big and building bigger and better facilities, we had a coach everyone hated that caused fans and donors to avoid the program like the plague.

So Serrano took over a roster that would have struggled to win in the Southern Conference, not to mention the Southeastern, in the best conference in college baseball. Oh, and he has to try and recruit talent to a dead program that plays in the worst stadium in the conference. Most of our peers are playing in facilities that minor league teams would die to play in and we're still having games at a dinosaur.

So despite all that, Serrano won a fair amount of games the last three years by piecing together a lineup and pitching rotation out of players with no business playing at this level and talented underclassmen that he was able to recruit under those circumstances.

So, yes, his three-year record is comparable to Raleigh's. You can use the numbers to spin your opinion of Serrano however you want. But the numbers don't tell the whole story here. His first three seasons, Serrano had to scratch and claw with inferior talent to win games. They took a big step forward last year. Raleigh inherited an SEC roster from Delmonico and ended up squandering the talent and running off guys that were good players, including a guy like Yan Gomes who's a everyday player in MLB. They got worse every year, despite Raleigh stacking the schedule with horrible teams.

All of that said, there is no excuse for how they're playing this year. They have the talent to be competitive in this league right now. They don;t have the talent to win it this year, but they should have been in the top half of the league.

Seranno is going to have to take a hard look at his staff and the offensive "system" which just isn't working for them. They need a hitting guru in the worst way.

If you can't look at the roster and see how much more talented it is than Raleigh's last year, then I can't help you. Raleigh recruited guys whose other offers were Sun Belt and Southern Conference schools. Serrano is losing guys to the draft. He's won battles for guys with other SEC offers. He has guys on his current team that will be draft picks.

Thanks for chiming in.

Despite a bad season, one can see the talent is superior to Raleigh's last season. Right now, they're just not hitting the ball and fielding the ball well in a very good league.

It's almost like some sort of perfect storm. Hideous weather. Lost home games. Slow/stuttered start. Poor offense. Tough early conference schedule largely on road.

I was tough on Raleigh from Day #2 for a reason. He was obviously an underqualified moron that our peers and others in college baseball could not believe we hired.

I was and remain excited about Serranno because he was and is qualified. This season has simply been a disappointment. Even the great programs like Garrido at Texas, LSU, Fullerton, Miami, Rice, USC have had unexplained down seasons when things just didn't click.

This team should be better than last season and it's not for a myriad of reasons.

There's no one on anyone's short list who is more qualified than CDS. The laughable assertion about Chris Burke. The listing of names from schools that have never been to CWS. CDS remains the best qualified person to win at UT even today. And best part, he really wants to be in Knoxville!

I'm torn up inside by this season. After a tough winter and few months at work-due to weather, I was REALLY looking forward to a great seasons and return to top tier status. At Lexington on Friday night I screamed at the top of my lungs after a runner with no intention of stealing was picked off first base by a right-handed pitcher. I'm stress and getting what may be the first baseball ulcer.

My White Sox have stumbled out of the gate in the toughest division in baseball.

My Vols have stunk it up and have only played a few games at home.

I'm stressed and the new-found baseball "experts" that have swamped this board in recent weeks are not helping.

I'm giving CDS far more rope and time that I gave Coach Pimple (Raleigh) because there's no one else out there that would make me as excited in their hire than I was with CDS.

I pray for a mild 2016 winter and spring. I pray that we get players who seem to actually want to play baseball. I pray that I can see a region and Super Region in Knoxville.

Changing coaches now makes us a College Baseball Banana Republic. Replacing a real baseball coach with the next pretty face who interviews well with no resume or track record of success.
 
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We have a pretty decent ball team when compared to other conferences. But the SEC is the big leagues. We don't have the horses to compete in this conference. Hopefully Serrano can get them but it is going to take a while. It is obvious visually we are much better than when Raleigh was here but also visually still well below most other SEC schools in talent level.
 
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Serrano is a west coast guy and they seem to rarely work out. He's probably riding out his contract to go home.
 
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Well they are 20-18 this year, so guess not.
They won 34 games last year, and 51 the year before that.

So it appears as Serrano's recruited talent has left, the wins have to an extent.

Guess you missed the word "likely" when I referred to Vanderhook. He's taken 3 straight teams to the postseason so I'm not sure his win total is that relevant, he's had them in "contention" every year. Did he do anything more than his 2 predecessors? I'm not on the Serrano sucks train and I was fully on board when he was hired and thought it was the first time in years this university swung for the fences and nailed it. However, the stock I put into his time at CSFU is dwindling because of the state of the program when it was handed to him. It was on auto-steer.

Vanderhook also only won 36 games his first year. Did CDS leave him no players that year but then left him players for his 2nd year to get to 51 wins? Serrano has clearly shown he can recruit, on paper, so maybe his talent did leave and Vanderhook hasn't been able to reel in the same talent since. I don't know, but if it's a talent thing that's suffered at CSFU, then on paper we shouldn't have as many issues because of how CDS has recruited. So what's happened?

Look at CSF's OOC schedule, they just played cross country 2 weeks ago at Maryland, a top 20 program, they've played IU in a series, a recent CWS participant, they played Stanford, plus the Big West conference rivals any in the country. That 20-18 record has been earned.
 
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I hope no offense is taken, but I don't know that it matters as far as CSF, four years removed...CDS doesn't get that job without the what he did at UCI...A CWS for a program that had never been to one at that point...in three years.

I think it's a helluva lot easier to build a program out there then it is here and obviously to get Cali kids to come here is freakin difficult...so I guess what I'm trying to say is...what's the point of comparing us to a national power like CSF?
 
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I hope no offense is taken, but I don't know that it matters as far as CSF, four years removed...CDS doesn't get that job without the what he did at UCI...A CWS for a program that had never been to one at that point...in three years.

I think it's a helluva lot easier to build a program out there then it is here and obviously to get Cali kids to come here is freakin difficult...so I guess what I'm trying to say is...what's the point of comparing us to a national power like CSF?

My point is, his coaching success at CSF isn't necessarily a fool-proof indicator of his coaching ability since its consistently a contender regardless of who's at the helm.
His time at UCI is a better indicator but many probably didn't know the UCI program was only revived in 2002.

John Savage took the reigns for the first 3 years upon revival and took them to the tournament his last year before moving on to UCLA. Clearly he's had success at UCLA, so I imagine he had a hand in building that UCI program back up and Gillispie has sustained that success post-CDS. UCI was a decent D2 program as well, with 2 NC's. Point being, it's a program overall that has had periods of high success.

Building a program back vs. maintaining and/or elevating an "established" program are two different things. CDS may not be cut out for the former, I have no idea. But after year 5 if we're in a similar boat then things need to be reevaluated, nothing more nothing less. This program was a mess, no doubt, but after next year the program is squarely his and the excuses should slow if not stop.
 
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Well, a school has to field baseball in order to be in the SEC, so you're not going to get very far with that argument.

I have posted most of the following before when people have tried to compare Serrano to Raleigh, but it appears we have some new people here making the argument, so it bears repeating.

First of all, Serrano has won everywhere he has been, including when he was here as an assistant. If he can't ultimately win here, that's more of a Tennessee problem than a Serrano problem.

The Raleigh hire was not just devastating because of his poor coaching and abysmal recruiting that drove our program into the ground.

It was devastating because his four seasons here coincided with a four-year period where SEC baseball went from being a good conference to being without a doubt the best conference. While other teams were winning big and building bigger and better facilities, we had a coach everyone hated that caused fans and donors to avoid the program like the plague.

So Serrano took over a roster that would have struggled to win in the Southern Conference, not to mention the Southeastern, in the best conference in college baseball. Oh, and he has to try and recruit talent to a dead program that plays in the worst stadium in the conference. Most of our peers are playing in facilities that minor league teams would die to play in and we're still having games at a dinosaur.

So despite all that, Serrano won a fair amount of games the last three years by piecing together a lineup and pitching rotation out of players with no business playing at this level and talented underclassmen that he was able to recruit under those circumstances.

So, yes, his three-year record is comparable to Raleigh's. You can use the numbers to spin your opinion of Serrano however you want. But the numbers don't tell the whole story here. His first three seasons, Serrano had to scratch and claw with inferior talent to win games. They took a big step forward last year. Raleigh inherited an SEC roster from Delmonico and ended up squandering the talent and running off guys that were good players, including a guy like Yan Gomes who's a everyday player in MLB. They got worse every year, despite Raleigh stacking the schedule with horrible teams.

All of that said, there is no excuse for how they're playing this year. They have the talent to be competitive in this league right now. They don;t have the talent to win it this year, but they should have been in the top half of the league.

Seranno is going to have to take a hard look at his staff and the offensive "system" which just isn't working for them. They need a hitting guru in the worst way.

If you can't look at the roster and see how much more talented it is than Raleigh's last year, then I can't help you. Raleigh recruited guys whose other offers were Sun Belt and Southern Conference schools. Serrano is losing guys to the draft. He's won battles for guys with other SEC offers. He has guys on his current team that will be draft picks.

Thanks for giving us the long version of the theory that everything bad that's happening here is still Raleigh's fault, and everything good that happens either here or in California redounds to Serrano's credit.

Seriously, Deer Park? Is Serrano responsible for anything on this team? He has been running the program for almost four years and flushed 50 of his recruits through the system. But it's still Raleigh's fault that they're in last place?

He of the bullet-proof resume from the previous decade can't be questioned and can't even be expected to get them out of the cellar in his fourth year?

If not now, when will he be responsible?
 
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Well, a school has to field baseball in order to be in the SEC, so you're not going to get very far with that argument.

I have posted most of the following before when people have tried to compare Serrano to Raleigh, but it appears we have some new people here making the argument, so it bears repeating.

First of all, Serrano has won everywhere he has been, including when he was here as an assistant. If he can't ultimately win here, that's more of a Tennessee problem than a Serrano problem.

The Raleigh hire was not just devastating because of his poor coaching and abysmal recruiting that drove our program into the ground.

It was devastating because his four seasons here coincided with a four-year period where SEC baseball went from being a good conference to being without a doubt the best conference. While other teams were winning big and building bigger and better facilities, we had a coach everyone hated that caused fans and donors to avoid the program like the plague.

So Serrano took over a roster that would have struggled to win in the Southern Conference, not to mention the Southeastern, in the best conference in college baseball. Oh, and he has to try and recruit talent to a dead program that plays in the worst stadium in the conference. Most of our peers are playing in facilities that minor league teams would die to play in and we're still having games at a dinosaur.

So despite all that, Serrano won a fair amount of games the last three years by piecing together a lineup and pitching rotation out of players with no business playing at this level and talented underclassmen that he was able to recruit under those circumstances.

So, yes, his three-year record is comparable to Raleigh's. You can use the numbers to spin your opinion of Serrano however you want. But the numbers don't tell the whole story here. His first three seasons, Serrano had to scratch and claw with inferior talent to win games. They took a big step forward last year. Raleigh inherited an SEC roster from Delmonico and ended up squandering the talent and running off guys that were good players, including a guy like Yan Gomes who's a everyday player in MLB. They got worse every year, despite Raleigh stacking the schedule with horrible teams.

All of that said, there is no excuse for how they're playing this year. They have the talent to be competitive in this league right now. They don;t have the talent to win it this year, but they should have been in the top half of the league.

Seranno is going to have to take a hard look at his staff and the offensive "system" which just isn't working for them. They need a hitting guru in the worst way.

If you can't look at the roster and see how much more talented it is than Raleigh's last year, then I can't help you. Raleigh recruited guys whose other offers were Sun Belt and Southern Conference schools. Serrano is losing guys to the draft. He's won battles for guys with other SEC offers. He has guys on his current team that will be draft picks.

DP, if that is the case, does Tennessee have any plans to upgrade the stadium/stadium experience? I know baseball is not a revenue generating sport so im sure its not at the top of the list but is it important to the higher ups at UT to have comparable facilities to other schools in the conference? Thanks.
 
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DP, if that is the case, does Tennessee have any plans to upgrade the stadium/stadium experience? I know baseball is not a revenue generating sport so im sure its not at the top of the list but is it important to the higher ups at UT to have comparable facilities to other schools in the conference? Thanks.

We just renovated and increased capacity like 5 years ago. I can't speak for all stadiums as I've not been to them but I can't imagine we're that much further behind in appearance and appeal than some of the other stadiums. Capacity wise we're likely in the bottom 3 with Mizzou and UK. I've been to UF's stadium for games and other than its size compared to LNS, it's just as, if not more, outdated, plain and unimpressive. The lack of atmosphere in LNS is due to unimpressive crowds which is due to a mediocre product is what makes LNS sub-par.

My first year at UT was the 2005 CWS run and I rarely missed a home game, the crowds were piss-poor then. If people don't come out for a top 2 SEC and CWS team then I don't know what it's gonna take.
 
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We just renovated and increased capacity like 5 years ago. I can't speak for all stadiums as I've not been to them but I can't imagine we're that much further behind in appearance and appeal than some of the other stadiums. Capacity wise we're likely in the bottom 3 with Mizzou and UK. I've been to UF's stadium for games and other than its size compared to LNS, it's just as, if not more, outdated, plain and unimpressive. The lack of atmosphere in LNS is due to unimpressive crowds which is due to a mediocre product is what makes it LNS sub-par.

My first year at UT was the 2005 CWS run and I rarely missed a home game, the crowds were piss-poor then. If people don't come out for a top 2 SEC and CWS team then I don't what it's gonna take.

I went to the UT-USC games (in Columbia) when they came to town. I've seen minor league stadiums that were worse than Carolina's place. Thats a really nice place.
 
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I went to the UT-USC games (in Columbia) when they came to town. I've seen minor league stadiums that were worse than Carolina's place. Thats a really nice place.

I went to the old Sarge Frye Field in one of the last few years they were in it, and I was shocked they were getting a new one. The old one was still immaculate at that time.
 
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Serrano is a west coast guy and they seem to rarely work out. He's probably riding out his contract to go home.

The west coast schools have won far more national titles than the SEC.

Only 4 SEC teams have won a national title with the lion's share being LSU.

I know we are gung-ho SEC here and they are currently the best conference but Serrano is not struggling because he's a west coast guy. This team would struggle in those very good PAC, Big West and WCC as well.
 
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Thanks for giving us the long version of the theory that everything bad that's happening here is still Raleigh's fault, and everything good that happens either here or in California redounds to Serrano's credit.

Seriously, Deer Park? Is Serrano responsible for anything on this team? He has been running the program for almost four years and flushed 50 of his recruits through the system. But it's still Raleigh's fault that they're in last place?

He of the bullet-proof resume from the previous decade can't be questioned and can't even be expected to get them out of the cellar in his fourth year?

If not now, when will he be responsible?

Did you miss the part of my post where I said the following?

All of that said, there is no excuse for how they're playing this year. They have the talent to be competitive in this league right now. They don;t have the talent to win it this year, but they should have been in the top half of the league.

Seranno is going to have to take a hard look at his staff and the offensive "system" which just isn't working for them. They need a hitting guru in the worst way.

Look, I understand and agree that the team has taken a step back from last year to this year. He is responsible for that, I've said that in this thread and others.

My point was and is that people that saying Serrano is no better than Raleigh aren't living in reality. There is not a coach in the country that would have taken the rosters he had his first two years to the NCAA Tournament.

Sone of "his" recruits the first two years, especially the ones from JUCO, weren't SEC players, but you have to build from somewhere. People that expected him to immediately recruit with the South Carolinas and Floridas of the world are dreaming. Look at their facilities and recent track record and tell me why they should come here instead. But he is trying to build us to a point where we are competitive with those teams, and we were on track to do that. Obviously, this year is a setback to that. There is no denying that.
 
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DP, if that is the case, does Tennessee have any plans to upgrade the stadium/stadium experience? I know baseball is not a revenue generating sport so im sure its not at the top of the list but is it important to the higher ups at UT to have comparable facilities to other schools in the conference? Thanks.

They have plans, but need the funding.
 
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They have plans, but need the funding.

Funding won't help things when you're 5 runs down
7th inning
Runners on 1st and 2nd
2 outs
And Serrano has the hitter BUNTING
And this is not trying to get one down because the 3rd baseman is too deep
After the first pitch was fouled off
The hitter tried to bunt again.

I've seen this type of baseball incompetence too much from Serrano. Frankly, it's embarrassing when your coach does idiotic things like this on a regular basis.

BTW, that not an "offensive system." It's rank stupidity.
 
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