Sexual Assault in the Military

#27
#27
I was in Basic/AIT 25 years ago (egads! I'm old) and even then, before political correctness had penetrated the culture, fraternization, sexual harassment, etc. were frowned upon. In AIT I made the mistake of leaning out of a 2nd story window to talk to a female soldier who was standing on the concrete pad behind my barracks, drill sergeant saw that and I ended up doing elevated push ups until my nose bled.

yeah, no real point to that, just wanted to get that off my chest.

btw, regarding Drill Sergeants being present, in the early phase of Basic the DI's had what was called "total control" meaning there is a DI with us 24/7 who is awake and waiting to yell and abuse at the drop of a hat. They worked in shifts. A platoon that proved that it wasn't a bunch of screwups could be taken off total control after the first week or so, but there were some who were in total control for the entire 8 weeks.
 
#29
#29
His first clue should have been the use of banjos instead of trumpets for Reveille. But seriously, story sounds more like fiction than Newsweek.
 
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fl0at said:
Honestly, I find only the "response" by the chain to be unbelievable. We had a similar occurrence in my old unit, involving a few drunk terminal lances, a boot and a broomstrick.

Pretty much all involved, except the recipient of the broomstick, got railroaded.

Even then, the story might have been grossly exaggerated.
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didn't sound like he was talking about group sodomy. Had that been the allegation, I might have bought it. As to the CofC response, that is utter garbage.
 
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JTrainDavis said:
What, a gang rape in basic training barracks where there is a drill sergeant within a stones throw all the time?
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Dude probably got picked on and I'm sure he was teased for being a spy or whatever, but a gang rape? BS
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I was called a Hill Billy in basic by this one drill. Seriously, that was my name for 9 weeks.
 
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nbakerld said:
I read this book Blowback and it enumerated way too many instances of sexual assault by our soldiers stationed in Japan. It happens fairly frequently and some of the perpetrators get off pretty easy.

This wiki article mentions some of the incidences:

"From 1952 to 2004, there were approximately 200,000 accidents and crimes involving U.S. soldiers, in which 1,076 Japanese civilians died. Over 90% of the incidents were vehicle or traffic related.[10] According to the U.S.-Japan Status of Forces Agreement U.S. personnel have partial extraterritorial right, so in most cases suspects were not arrested by Japanese authorities.[10] In 1995, the abduction and rape of a 12-year-old Okinawan schoolgirl by two U.S. Marines and one U.S. sailor led to demands for the removal of all U.S. military bases in Japan."

United States Forces Japan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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200,000 incidents in Japan seems like a high number, until you put it in context. From the site you cited, there are currently 35,000 US Servicemen/women stationed in Japan (this number has most definitely decreased; however, due to uncertainty of the specific numbers stationed there over the years, we will leave it at this low of 35,000 for this argument). Most assignments to Japan and Korea are two-year tours and we have had troops stationed in Japan since 1950 (to be completely accurate, since 1946-47).

That gives us 60 years, or at a minimum 1,050,000 (again, do not know the specific counts for specific years, though one would logically assume that during both the Korean War and the Vietnam War the numbers were much, much greater than 35,000).

According to your article, 200,000 incidents (which include traffic accidents), or a less than 20% incident rate (the very highest it could be concerning the explanation of the numbers).

There are definitely more than 20% of American citizens that get in traffic accidents.
 
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