Shack's Jumper?

[walkenvol]

I’d prefer to watch how much he impacts the game for us as opposed to worrying about what a whiny coach of an unranked team says about one of the most impactful players on our team.

I tend to agree, but my post was in response to your earlier post concerning all coaches in America. Don’t really care anyway.

Go VOLS - great win!

 

[Woodlawn VOL]

Gosh I was just thinking the same about Mashack. I kept remembering first of the season they kept talking about how he put up an upsurd number of shoots, and how if he can just be a respectable 3 point shooter how much it would open the offense. He shot one tonight and missed, but would not take another. I also think he’s a good driver and finisher at the rim, but I guess it’s hard to drive when the defender is 4 foot of you.

And I love Shack, this isn’t a bash post. But I honestly believe he may have given the other teams this year more points by fouling 3 point shooters than he has scored himself

Mashack will end up helping this team a heckuva lot more than ever hurting it. He is gonna get his minutes, and if folks do not think we are going to need him the entire way they are off their freakin rocker. He creates mismatches, he is probably the best defender in America or one of them. And yes he will get his points on plenty of nights. He is also a great rebounder. But he means so much more to the team than scoring it isn’t even funny. He is a very important player on this team. GBO

 

[Anti-shunshinepumper]

Gosh I was just thinking the same about Mashack. I kept remembering first of the season they kept talking about how he put up an upsurd number of shoots, and how if he can just be a respectable 3 point shooter how much it would open the offense. He shot one tonight and missed, but would not take another. I also think he’s a good driver and finisher at the rim, but I guess it’s hard to drive when the defender is 4 foot of you.

And I love Shack, this isn’t a bash post. But I honestly believe he may have given the other teams this year more points by fouling 3 point shooters than he has scored himself

Needs to try that open 3 like he has been earlier in the year. Definitely can't do worse than Igor did tonight.
He gives us so much on D that I don't know if we can afford to not have him out there.

 

[Peyton Berry]

Mashack will end up helping this team a heckuva lot more than ever hurting it. He is gonna get his minutes, and if folks do not think we are going to need him the entire way they are off their freakin rocker. He creates mismatches, he is probably the best defender in America or one of them. And yes he will get his points on plenty of nights. He is also a great rebounder. But he means so much more to the team than scoring it isn’t even funny. He is a very important player on this team. GBO

I wasn’t discounting what he does bring to the team, I know he brings a lot and is an elite defender. I was just saying if defenses had to at least respect him at the 3 point line, it opens the floor for everyone else and helps his ability to drive to the hoop. But he does got to stop fouling 3 point shooters

 

[Volfan1000]

He seemed to be developing a pretty good jumper and now all of the sudden he all but refuses to shoot. What happened? He clearly has 0 confidence in his shot. That could really hurt us down the stretch, he is too good defensively to not be on the floor.

Mashack impacts basketball games in more ways than scoring the ball.

 

[BreatheUT]

Wouldn’t be surprised if Mashack is playing through some sort of arm / shoulder injury that’s affecting his shot. He clearly was shooting much better until the last couple games. He’s a warrior and would have to be severely injured to set out.

That would make sense if it was affecting his defense.

 

[rdk4121]

That would be so dumb. I hope Dubar finds some minutes but every opposing coach in America would love it if we played Mashack less. Horrible take.

Not as bad as your horrible take. Dubar is a great defender as well. They literally designed their entire defense around letting Mashack shoot the ball, and it was unbelievably effective. It just allows teams to pack the paint and prevent any driving lanes. That negatively impacts the entire offense.

We made the adjustment of using him as a screener. He's going to also get more confident finishing at the rim because he had 3-4 times where he got the ball at the rim and dribbled it out. His only free throw attempt he had he barely touched the rim, so maybe that thought also crossed him mind. Great defense only goes so far if you hurt the team too much on the other side. It's about your net impact. A guy on your team that teams quite literally scheme to leave open is not a good sign. I love Mashack, but they've got to find a way to get him contributing on the offensive end.

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

Not as bad as your horrible take. Dubar is a great defender as well. They literally designed their entire defense around letting Mashack shoot the ball, and it was unbelievably effective. It just allows teams to pack the paint and prevent any driving lanes. That negatively impacts the entire offense.

We made the adjustment of using him as a screener. He's going to also get more confident finishing at the rim because he had 3-4 times where he got the ball at the rim and dribbled it out. His only free throw attempt he had he barely touched the rim, so maybe that thought also crossed him mind. Great defense only goes so far if you hurt the team too much on the other side. It's about your net impact. A guy on your team that teams quite literally scheme to leave open is not a good sign. I love Mashack, but they've got to find a way to get him contributing on the offensive end.

Bet his going forward minutes indicate Coach does not agree. His versatility allows switching to keep ZZ and Gainey out front. For a big guy Igor is good too.

In the other end His early reads and cuts to create passing lanes and speed up ball reversal is key to the better shooters getting better looks.

He could take more shots, but Coach will let him know, always does.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

Mashack impacts basketball games in more ways than scoring the ball.

Trust me I am aware. It's just odd he used to be able to knock down the occasional corner 3, supposedly put in all this time working on his shot, and now won't even look at the rim.

 

[Kas232323]

I tend to agree, but my post was in response to your earlier post concerning all coaches in America. Don’t really care anyway.

Go VOLS - great win!

Not as bad as your horrible take. Dubar is a great defender as well. They literally designed their entire defense around letting Mashack shoot the ball, and it was unbelievably effective. It just allows teams to pack the paint and prevent any driving lanes. That negatively impacts the entire offense.

We made the adjustment of using him as a screener. He's going to also get more confident finishing at the rim because he had 3-4 times where he got the ball at the rim and dribbled it out. His only free throw attempt he had he barely touched the rim, so maybe that thought also crossed him mind. Great defense only goes so far if you hurt the team too much on the other side. It's about your net impact. A guy on your team that teams quite literally scheme to leave open is not a good sign. I love Mashack, but they've got to find a way to get him contributing on the offensive end.

Haha. Okay. As I said - I hope Dibar continues to perform and find his minutes but Mashack isn’t sitting more. That’s insane given how much he impacts the game. Any semblance of even officiating in 2nd half and us hamming layups and FTs and we win by 15-20. Mashack isn’t losing minutes. There’s a reason he’s averaging the second most minutes.

 

[ShelbourneVol]

You should listen to the Illinois coach’s press conference for his comments on Mashack.

The Illinois coach was also blaming, “scouting report mistakes”, concerning Jordan Gainey. Definitely a whiner coach.

 

[Stoerner Fumbles]

I think he gets in his own head offensively. Teams will leave him open daring him to shoot and once he takes the bait and misses it messes with his psyche.

I also think he is naturally an unselfish player, so he doesn't want to shoot just becuase he has the first open look all the time.

I wish though Barnes would tell him to drive in the paint more. With the way fouls were being called today, he could have drawn alot more in the 2nd half just by going to the rim.

He can’t drive if they drop off him, which is why they dropped off of him.

 

[TheMookieMonster]

While the comments by Underwood were low class and uncalled for, his admission that his staff didn’t even gameplan for Machack and left him open on purpose isn’t ideal. I’m not sure what has happened to Mashack. I mean he worked so hard during the off-season to improve his offense. He made 30,000 3-point jumpers. He’s done too much to lose his confidence and not be more involved in the offense.

The best version of Tennessee is one where Mashack is a contributor on offense. He actually made several tough shots in the paint yesterday at crucial moments. He has talent, he just needs to be more aggressive and make a point to get involved.

I hope these next 3 “buy” games we have can be used to build that confidence back up and get him involved. He obviously brings a lot to this team with how much he does on defense, but making a Final Four and surviving the grind that will be the SEC this year is going to require more from him on offense.

 

[TMvol10]

Shack has been a great finisher in the paint this year. He’s made lots of tough shots in the lane. He needs to get downhill as much as possible cause right now that’s his only weapon on offense. His shot has already devolved from what it was just 10 games ago. It’s become more of a heave than a shot. It’s amazing how once the confidence starts to decrease, the technique follows closely behind. His shot is broken right now. Let’s hope he finds something the next 3 games and gets his confidence/form back for SEC play.

 

[Zues1]

He's probably dealing with a cracked tailbone after taking two shoulders to the chest with the second one slamming him to the floor.
No whistle, geez

 

[rdk4121]

Haha. Okay. As I said - I hope Dibar continues to perform and find his minutes but Mashack isn’t sitting more. That’s insane given how much he impacts the game. Any semblance of even officiating in 2nd half and us hamming layups and FTs and we win by 15-20. Mashack isn’t losing minutes. There’s a reason he’s averaging the second most minutes.

You talk about making layups and free throws, but Mashack was one of the major culprits in that. Passing up easy shots to take harder shots is also bad offense. There's no doubt that Mashack is a fantastic defender, but we can't have too many people on the court that are non factors on offense. Okpara already is not much of a factor. Cade also depends mostly on assisted baskets or put backs.

We don't have much depth right now anyway, so he's playing regardless, but if Dubar gives you similar defense and improved offense then you have to at least give him 4-5 minutes more a game. Dubar is also a fantastic rebounder.

 

[Zues1]

You should listen to the Illinois coach’s press conference for his comments on Mashack.

He told the players during a timeout Gainey was not a handler and did not like that role.
Then Jordan shoved one down his throat and walked off undefeated.

 

[Orangeslide]

He is acting like he doesn’t think an open 3 is good offense early in the clock.

Underwood clearly schemed to give him the shot. I think he needs to take them.

He did and conference coaches will do the same. If Dubar keeps improving he will cut into shacks minutes. He is an elite defender but there’s gonna be nights we need scoring too.

 

[Orangeslide]

That would be so dumb. I hope Dubar finds some minutes but every opposing coach in America would love it if we played Mashack less. Horrible take.

Don’t think so. Yes, he is an elite defender but the conference is too good from top to bottom this year to have a player who is no threat to score. There will be nights that Mashack will stay because of his defense but some other nights when scoring is needed Dubar will be available. When you think about it, it might not be a bad problem to have if Dubar proves he can knock down shots.

 

[Kas232323]

You talk about making layups and free throws, but Mashack was one of the major culprits in that. Passing up easy shots to take harder shots is also bad offense. There's no doubt that Mashack is a fantastic defender, but we can't have too many people on the court that are non factors on offense. Okpara already is not much of a factor. Cade also depends mostly on assisted baskets or put backs.

We don't have much depth right now anyway, so he's playing regardless, but if Dubar gives you similar defense and improved offense then you have to at least give him 4-5 minutes more a game. Dubar is also a fantastic rebounder.

He had the highest shooting percentage of all starters last night. He knows his role on this team. I’ve said in every post that I hope Dubar finds his role on this team. We will be better for it but it isn’t coming at the expense of mashack’s minutes period. And it absolutely shouldn’t. I’m done talking about this. Thx.

 

[walkenvol]

You talk about making layups and free throws, but Mashack was one of the major culprits in that. Passing up easy shots to take harder shots is also bad offense. There's no doubt that Mashack is a fantastic defender, but we can't have too many people on the court that are non factors on offense. Okpara already is not much of a factor. Cade also depends mostly on assisted baskets or put backs.

We don't have much depth right now anyway, so he's playing regardless, but if Dubar gives you similar defense and improved offense then you have to at least give him 4-5 minutes more a game. Dubar is also a fantastic rebounder.

There’s NO chance “Dubar plays similar defense” to Shack, no chance

 

[MinisterofDef#92]

While the comments by Underwood were low class and uncalled for, his admission that his staff didn’t even gameplan for Machack and left him open on purpose isn’t ideal. I’m not sure what has happened to Mashack. I mean he worked so hard during the off-season to improve his offense. He made 30,000 3-point jumpers. He’s done too much to lose his confidence and not be more involved in the offense.

The best version of Tennessee is one where Mashack is a contributor on offense. He actually made several tough shots in the paint yesterday at crucial moments. He has talent, he just needs to be more aggressive and make a point to get involved.

I hope these next 3 “buy” games we have can be used to build that confidence back up and get him involved. He obviously brings a lot to this team with how much he does on defense, but making a Final Four and surviving the grind that will be the SEC this year is going to require more from him on offense.

Issue is that Jahmai doesn't have a consistent intermediate game so he has to get all the way to the rim and we have to get him more looks from the corner where he has shown he can hit it at a +35% clip vs. the rest of the 3 pt arc where he def struggles. Ideally he gets his avg of up a few points going forward and cleans up the fouls on 3 pt shots as Chris mentioned previously.

 

[VOLtaism]

Mashack had a lot of impact in this game that does not show on the stat sheet. He was not allowing drives, chipping the ball when others allowed drives and making the rim no mans land. Several rebounds at key points in the game.

 

[RockyTop140]

Early in the season his shot was looking greatly improved. They talked about how he put up 500 3s a day over the offseason. Not sure what has happened, but he’s in a bit of a slump

 

[rdk4121]

There’s NO chance “Dubar plays similar defense” to Shack, no chance

You can look at their defensive rating. Mashack is at 85.8 per 100, and Dubar is at 86.4. Now Dubar has a smaller sample size, but no doubt he's been a fantastic addition on that end imo. His rebounding is fantastic, averaging the second most per 40 on the team behind Milicic.

He's not as quick as Mashack, he's more of a 4, but we also slide Mashack up the lineup plenty. I think you'd be better off just letting Dubar play some of those minutes when we normally put Shack at the 4. I'm also arguing for like 4-5 extra minutes for Dubar anyway.