Sherman

#51
#51
ToineMac said:
I find it amazing that we can dictate the narrative of who this guy is as a person based on a 60 second interview clip and a gesture at a guy he admits to not liking. He became a bad guy through one act. And its not like that one act was beating up women and children or something. He said something honest in the heat of the biggest moment in his life so far. Not to mention the team he did it against is acknowledged rival coached by a man who tried to sabotage his career. Overnight he is a thug but committed no crimes. He didn't even use profanity. It's amazing because I follow the basketball game threads on this site. And people complain every game when Coach Martin doesn't have hyper-emotional reactions to every bad play. Or when he doesn't get in a refs face and get a technical after every bad call. Now someone gives some of the emotion we crave (and obviously we want it why else stick a camera and mic in a guys face as soon as the game ends) and he is a bad guy. Hmm.
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The holier-than-thou crowd that wants to perpetuate the notion that Sherman is somehow an idiot or a bad person or anything of the like is what bothers me.

We are so quick to label these days.
 
#52
#52
trevols81 said:
He is a confident person and someone who remembers what others have done to them. Although, he did appear to be overtly charismatic, vengeful, and childish in the moment after the game he is arguably the best corner in the league.

Crabtree seems like a diva to me and all of this talk surrounding a charity event suggests more than is on the surface.

An apology for his actions is all that should be required.
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Agreed.
 
#53
#53
Its not holier than thought to say he acted like an immature punk. Simple observation is all it takes.
Doesnt mean he is a bad guy. You guys refusing to point to his actions are about as ridiculous as those that assume they know him. If he doesn't act like he did, there is no issue.
Personal accountablity is lost on a couple of generations now anyway. This is another example. Everybody is giving excuse after excuse. "Crabtree was talking, he went to Stanford, from tough background, graduated early, coach tried to ruin his career, emotional, just made the last play, heat of the moment, hard upbringing...Just stfu and play. Very simple.
Or act like a jackass, don't take responsibility and use excuse after excuse as to why you can act however you want. He chose the latter.
 
#54
#54
there is a bunch of butthurt in this thread.. over something that literally impacts zero of your lives.
 
#57
#57
Spartacavolus said:
Its not holier than thought to say he acted like an immature punk. Simple observation is all it takes.
Doesnt mean he is a bad guy. You guys refusing to point to his actions are about as ridiculous as those that assume they know him. If he doesn't act like he did, there is no issue.
Personal accountablity is lost on a couple of generations now anyway. This is another example. Everybody is giving excuse after excuse. "Crabtree was talking, he went to Stanford, from tough background, graduated early, coach tried to ruin his career, emotional, just made the last play, heat of the moment, hard upbringing...Just stfu and play. Very simple.
Or act like a jackass, don't take responsibility and use excuse after excuse as to why you can act however you want. He chose the latter.
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No he didn't. He owned up to it.
 
#59
#59
GahLee said:
No he didn't. He owned up to it.
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good then. All I heard was from his coach, then I saw him giving a bunch of reasons why he acted that way to "explain" himself.
Hadn't seen him take full responsibility. Glad he did. Now to football.
 
#60
#60
Wylo said:
there is a bunch of butthurt in this thread.. over something that literally impacts zero of your lives.
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you consider discussion about a recent event as being butthurt, but still whine about losses in a non life impacting football game from 2-3 years ago.
 
#63
#63
he seems like a very well spoken guy. He's still playing the "that's who I am" thing, but that's just ego and it looks to me that he really wishes he would've acted differently.
 
#65
#65
Crabtree is a sore loser. I can see why sherman was mad. The interview was only minutes after Crabtree pushed him in the face to shove him away. All Sherman did was run up to him and say hell of a game.
 
#67
#67
BruiserVol said:
Crabtree is a sore loser. I can see why sherman was mad. The interview was only minutes after Crabtree pushed him in the face to shove him away. All Sherman did was run up to him and say hell of a game.
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I doubt that is what Sherman said as he patted Crabtree on the backside but who really knows what he said in the moment.

All the Monday morning QBs need to relax and realize this is a guy who has been a class act until this point and something Crabtree did(supposedly in the offseason) set him off. He was obviously wrong in his postgame comments to reporters but I'm not willing to crucify him at this point.
 
#68
#68
trevols81 said:
I doubt that is what Sherman said as he patted Crabtree on the backside but who really knows what he said in the moment.

All the Monday morning QBs need to relax and realize this is a guy who has been a class act until this point and something Crabtree did(supposedly in the offseason) set him off. He was obviously wrong in his postgame comments to reporters but I'm not willing to crucify him at this point.
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No, we do know what he said.
Check out my previous post.
 
#69
#69
Freak said:
Agree. But the poster you responded to said he wasn't impressed and it was classless, both of which are fair opinions of an entertainer. I didn't see the word thug used but maybe I didn't read back far enough.

Regardless, we agree that it doesn't make him a thug. Besides, I'm not convinced the word thug has the same meaning to everyone.

This.

It's just an expression. I find it hilarious that the guy goes off like a roman candle with outrageous junk in numerous interviews, but, everybody is expected to think and say, "Aw, that's just Richard. That's how he is. He is really a classy guy most of the time." Yet if an average Joe calls him a thug or that he is acting like one it is interpreted to be a literal attack on the man's character. Will West called a caller a racist on Sports Animal for saying he was being a thug. So if you call Sherman a thug you are a racist automatically?! Wow. Get a frickin' grip.

He is WWE to the T. Does he think all of those types of fans watching his antics don't get amped up when he pretends he is the master blaster?! lol. I would say that everybody involved including Sherman needs to take chill pills, but it has been so entertaining I want it to keep going for awhile.
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#70
#70
<- avowed Richard Sherman fan

I don't think he's being a thug, but I don't care if anybody calls him one. His act is great though.
 
#71
#71
milohimself said:
<- avowed Richard Sherman fan

I don't think he's being a thug, but I don't care if anybody calls him one. His act is great though.
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Yeah, Sherman's free to act how he wants, and people are free to judge him on it. That's how it works.
 
#73
#73
trevols81 said:
I doubt that is what Sherman said as he patted Crabtree on the backside but who really knows what he said in the moment.

All the Monday morning QBs need to relax and realize this is a guy who has been a class act until this point and something Crabtree did(supposedly in the offseason) set him off. He was obviously wrong in his postgame comments to reporters but I'm not willing to crucify him at this point.
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It's exactly what he said. They were wearing mics for the nfl sound fx that they always show. His only words were helluva game. Whether it was a notion to say hey still think I'm crap or not, only a sore loser pushes the notion away.
 
#74
#74
trevols81 said:
I doubt that is what Sherman said as he patted Crabtree on the backside but who really knows what he said in the moment.

All the Monday morning QBs need to relax and realize this is a guy who has been a class act until this point and something Crabtree did(supposedly in the offseason) set him off. He was obviously wrong in his postgame comments to reporters but I'm not willing to crucify him at this point.
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The video panthro posted makes it pretty clear what he said. He pat crabtree on the butt, stuck out his hand, and said "Hell of a game. Hell of a game."

Crabtree then shoved him in the face.
 
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