Ship disappears after sail through English Channel

#26
#26
im not wasting my time
It's not about your time.

You came into the thread solely to criticize the ideas of other people. It's about you having nothing constructive or intelligent to add.

Are you scared to share your ideas? Have they been ridiculed in the past? Why so secretive about your ideas?

I thought you liberals were all about transparency? I think that is actually the problem. You liberals are so transparent, it's laughable.
 
#27
#27
Four Soviet diplomats were kidnapped on September 30, 1985. Arkady Katkov, a consular attaché, was killed by his captors; the other three (Oleg Spirin, Valery Mirikov, and Nikolai Svirsky) were released a month later.

You know why the Soviets were released so quick? They kidnapped the ringleader's brother. Then they sent his balls back to his brother in a jar, with the promise that other body parts would soon follow. Their hostages were released almost immediately.

Was Keyser Soze president of Russia at the time?
 
#30
#30
This ship went missing on purpose, brag about the Spetnaz all you want, they are going to do nothing about it.
 
#33
#33
Part two correlates nicely with part one does it not? Think of an inventive way to get around UN sanctions with plausible deniability.

If that is the case it was not done very covertly. It would appear that it was probably done this way to send a clear message.

Could it be possible that it was meant to be covert but someone sniffed it out and called the bluff forcing them into coming up with this cover to save face?

What was the likely cargo in your opinion?
 
#34
#34
If that is the case it was not done very covertly. It would appear that it was probably done this way to send a clear message.

Could it be possible that it was meant to be covert but someone sniffed it out and called the bluff forcing them into coming up with this cover to save face?

What was the likely cargo in your opinion?
....and where was it's destination?

MV, you have presented the most plausible scenario I've heard.
 
#35
#35
It's not about your time.

You came into the thread solely to criticize the ideas of other people. It's about you having nothing constructive or intelligent to add.

Are you scared to share your ideas? Have they been ridiculed in the past? Why so secretive about your ideas?

I thought you liberals were all about transparency? I think that is actually the problem. You liberals are so transparent, it's laughable.

I came into this thread solely because of a rediculous statement about the Russian people being safer than the US. Which most would agree is far from the truth.

Now im called a Liberal, spineless, ashamed. Ha, you promote cutting balls off, yet im the one who, "you having nothing constructive or intelligent to add." Your idea of intelligent to add, is "terrorize the terrorist". Im not a liberal, but my god, your so polarizing how do you ever expect to get your point across?
 
#36
#36
If that is the case it was not done very covertly. It would appear that it was probably done this way to send a clear message.

It was done covertly enough for media purposes, the second part of your message is so close you're on fire. :p

....and where was it's destination?

MV, you have presented the most plausible scenario I've heard.

Not quite sure but I would hazard a guess the cargo will eventually make it to a certain country in the ME. I'll buy you a beer if you can guess which one.
 
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#37
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I came into this thread solely because of a rediculous statement about the Russian people being safer than the US. Which most would agree is far from the truth.

Now im called a Liberal, spineless, ashamed. Ha, you promote cutting balls off, yet im the one who, "you having nothing constructive or intelligent to add." Your idea of intelligent to add, is "terrorize the terrorist". Im not a liberal, but my god, your so polarizing how do you ever expect to get your point across?
You can't even spell ridiculous, much less know the meaning.

NOWHERE in this thread did I say, the Russian people are safer. I said, "the Russians don't F around with terrorists".

God forbid we cut the balls off of people who cut American's heads off, and post the video on the Internet. How could we be so mean and heartless? I'll bet if we send them flowers and a Hallmark card, they'll quit being so mean.

Now, your ideas for stopping terrorism?
 
#39
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It was done covertly enough for media purposes, the second part of your message is so close your on fire. :p



Not quite sure but I would hazard a guess the cargo will eventually make it to a certain country in the ME. I'll buy you a beer if you can guess which one.
I don't drink, so buy a fellow military member a beer on me.

Iran.
 
#40
#40
I love how the Russians go about handling these matters. No BS involved. Find the ship, and do what you have to do. Ever notice that their citizens aren't the target of terrorists very often?

A commercial dispute? OK, if you say so. I'm sure the crew is voluntarily not contacting family.

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well define "aren't the target of terrorists very often". To me that that means not often which is absolutely not true...

How to stop terrorism? That's alittle vague and hard to know where to start BUT heres some of my Ideas.

Mop up war in Iraq, try and convince Obama to get a plan in Afghanistan, and make that the focus. Make sure the world knows were still the good guys and not as "ball hungry" as the terrorist. Now do you feel like giving us your fully detailed foreign policy?

As for the spelling, well getting called a spinless liberal, tends to cause heated typing, thus forgot the spell check.......
 
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well define "aren't the target of terrorists very often". To me that that means not often which is absolutely not true...

How to stop terrorism? That's alittle vague and hard to know where to start BUT heres some of my Ideas.

Mop up war in Iraq, try and convince Obama to get a plan in Afghanistan, and make that the focus. Make sure the world knows were still the good guys and not as "ball hungry" as the terrorist. Now do you feel like giving us your fully detailed foreign policy?

As for the spelling, well getting called a spinless liberal, tends to cause heated typing, thus forgot the spell check.......

My fully detailed foreign policy towards terrorists? There is no forgiveness. Attack America, and the wrath of The Great Satan will come down upon your head. We will send you to Hell. We will send your family to Hell with you. We will make you wish your ass had never crawled down off your camel.

I'm not a big fan of US troops doing the dirty work either. Park those Navy ships in the Gulf, and make them think it is raining cruise missiles. When terrorist nations learn the life exchange rate is about 100,000 to 1, they may rethink their actions.
 
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My fully detailed foreign policy towards terrorists? There is no forgiveness. Attack America, and the wrath of The Great Satan will come down upon your head. We will send you to Hell. We will send your family to Hell with you. We will make you wish your ass had never crawled down off your camel.

I'm not a big fan of US troops doing the dirty work either. Park those Navy ships in the Gulf, and make them think it is raining cruise missiles. When terrorist nations learn the life exchange rate is about 100,000 to 1, they may rethink their actions.

Only Alexander's plan will work. Unless of course you would be willing to wait for several generations to come and go.
 
#43
#43
My fully detailed foreign policy towards terrorists? There is no forgiveness. Attack America, and the wrath of The Great Satan will come down upon your head. We will send you to Hell. We will send your family to Hell with you. We will make you wish your ass had never crawled down off your camel.

I'm not a big fan of US troops doing the dirty work either. Park those Navy ships in the Gulf, and make them think it is raining cruise missiles. When terrorist nations learn the life exchange rate is about 100,000 to 1, they may rethink their actions.

You shame me into posting my ideas on this then respond with sarcasm.... thats why 3 post ago i said this would end in a 3rd grade style argument and that i would be wasting my time.
 
#44
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Only Alexander's plan will work. Unless of course you would be willing to wait for several generations to come and go.
You think the liberals would stand for America mustering a conquering army, much less a 10 year invasion?

You shame me into posting my ideas on this then respond with sarcasm.... thats why 3 post ago i said this would end in a 3rd grade style argument and that i would be wasting my time.
I wasn't being sarcastic at all. You asked, and I gave you a straight up answer.
 
#45
#45
You think the liberals would stand for America mustering a conquering army, much less a 10 year invasion?

I wont lump those who oppose the ultimate solution as liberals, it is a hard idea to swallow. Even Alexander abandoned the idea.

America has mustered a conquering army and ten years looks like a likely time line at this point.
 
#46
#46
I wont lump those who oppose the ultimate solution as liberals, it is a hard idea to swallow. Even Alexander abandoned the idea.

America has mustered a conquering army and ten years looks like a likely time line at this point.

I thought about that after I posted it. It's already been 6½ years.
 
#48
#48
Your love of the Spetsnaz makes me want to kick someone in the teeth.

Those Afghans gave as good as they got.

Ah............... I see...... you think......

I love the SEALS baby, and know they are second only to DELTA in the world.

My love for Spetsnaz comes from burlap bodybags and great wallpaper material...

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You have to laugh at this crap!
 
#49
#49
Yeah, I thought I zing you with that one :)

I guess I can't bait OE into a Spetsnaz argument?

Sure you can!

I should be on for a little bit.

I will take it for granted you know how they train...

Do you think they are as good as they want to believe they are?

Operation wise, they really screwed up Beslan Siege...
 
#50
#50
Sure you can!

I should be on for a little bit.

I will take it for granted you know how they train...

Do you think they are as good as they want to believe they are?

Operation wise, they really screwed up Beslan Siege...

They are one of the best trained units in the world, but their life is made much easier due to the rules they do not have to follow. Plus most are borderline psychotic and have no remorse or guilt for what they do.

On the flip side its also a glaring weakness.
 

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